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martyh 04-02-2017 21:33
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35884016)
Bollocks, you don't know him, you don't know anything about him.

You have an opinion of him from what you have read from 2nd, 3rd, 4th hand from predominantly left wing media.

So you can't "as a person" and don't pretend you can.
Yes i have an opinion the same as you have an opinion ,and my opinion is that he is a racist,sexist, bully .Strangely enough people do form opinions about people from what they see on the news ,from what they see the person in question say on tv and from what they read about the person ,that's pretty much what everybody does

TheDaddy 04-02-2017 21:40
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35884016)
Bollocks, you don't know him, you don't know anything about him.

You have an opinion of him from what you have read from 2nd, 3rd, 4th hand from predominantly left wing media.

So you can't "as a person" and don't pretend you can.
The left wing media isn't in charge of his tweeting machine, you can learn quite a lot about him and his personality in 140 characters

Mick 04-02-2017 21:58
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35884018)
Yes i have an opinion the same as you have an opinion ,and my opinion is that he is a racist,sexist, bully
Glad you accept that is all it is and not stating it as fact.

ianch99 04-02-2017 22:51
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35883993)
If you say so, I disagree. Stop trying to force your views on me, it won't work.
He is not forcing his views on you. He is is saying you are factually incorrect. There is a difference.

Electorate:

Quote:
all the people in a country or area who are entitled to vote in an election
Kursk said:

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The President is acting on his word which is what his supporters, the majority of the electorate, expect ...
and he was wrong.

End of discussion.

Pierre 04-02-2017 23:12
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Well to be accurate he should have said " the majority of the electorite that cast a vote"

As the majority of the electorate may well be Trump supporters, but they just didn't vote on the day.

Mick 04-02-2017 23:25
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35884025)
He is not forcing his views on you. He is is saying you are factually incorrect. There is a difference.
But I'm not incorrect.



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Kursk said:



and he was wrong.

End of discussion.
Not end of discussion. Because you are wrong. It is States which determines the Presidency, not the entire voting population. Trump won more States, so Kursk is right based on how the democracy system works in the US.

Osem 05-02-2017 00:06
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
I think the main problem was that the Trump voters didn't really know what they were voting for whereas the Clinton voters did... :D

TheDaddy 05-02-2017 00:26
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35884028)
But I'm not incorrect.





Not end of discussion. Because you are wrong. It is States which determines the Presidency, not the entire voting population. Trump won more States, so Kursk is right based on how the democracy system works in the US.
Except he isn't right because that isn't what he said, I really don't get the issue here and neither does the donald, if he'd wanted to win the majority of votes he would've just done so

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/1...-tweets-232879

nomadking 05-02-2017 00:29
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
He is allowed in law and by the constitution to impose a ban in the first place, so what criteria would be acceptable? Anything other than a complete worldwide ban is going to have an inherent bias to one group or another.

Pierre 05-02-2017 00:38
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35884032)
I think the main problem was that the Trump voters didn't really know what they were voting for whereas the Clinton voters did... :D
Correct, There should be another vote to determine the outcome of the previous vote.

Gavin78 05-02-2017 02:27
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35884032)
I think the main problem was that the Trump voters didn't really know what they were voting for whereas the Clinton voters did... :D
:D lets have a vote to counter a voter to counter that vote oh well you know......

I actually like the guy

martyh 05-02-2017 10:01
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Appeals court has just rejected Trumps appeal

sky breaking news

Pierre 05-02-2017 10:03
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
And to high light the double standards we have this.

Does Trump beheading cartoon go too far?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38870587

I don't think it goes too far, it's a good cartoon but can you imagine the outrage if it was Muslim being depicted in this way? Let alone if it was a leader of one of the banned states being depicted in this way? They'd all be out burning the Stars and Stripes again.

Damien 05-02-2017 10:14
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35884049)
Appeals court has just rejected Trumps appeal

sky breaking news
I assume that's just saying they can't put the ban in whilst they await a proper ruling? Seems awfully fast otherwise.

martyh 05-02-2017 10:19
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35884050)
And to high light the double standards we have this.

Does Trump beheading cartoon go too far?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38870587

I don't think it goes too far, it's a good cartoon but can you imagine the outrage if it was Muslim being depicted in this way? Let alone if it was a leader of one of the banned states being depicted in this way? They'd all be out burning the Stars and Stripes again.

I agree it is a good cartoon and gets the message across ,it shows Trump beheading democracy ,can't see how it's double standards though.

---------- Post added at 09:19 ---------- Previous post was at 09:16 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35884051)
I assume that's just saying they can't put the ban in whilst they await a proper ruling? Seems awfully fast otherwise.
No that's the ruling by the appeal court ,the only avenue open for trump now is through the supreme court


Quote:
The US federal appeals court has rejected the Trump administration's request to immediately reinstate a travel ban blocked by a federal judge on Friday.
The ban targeted people from seven mainly Muslim countries.
State lawyers had argued it was unconstitutional and discriminatory.
The federal judge in Seattle had ruled against government lawyers' claims that states did not have the standing to challenge Mr Trump's executive order.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38872680


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