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Nor is Barcelona, I was employing a neat verbal trick known as 'irony'. Considering Ferguson lost in Turkey to get an easier draw, I laughed a lot when that came out.

I see AC are the favourites for the whole thing now, though. Time to get the pizza out, Manc boys, you're up against a proper team there. Footballer of the Year and all.

11-2 - AC Milan
13-2 - Barcelona and Chelsea
15-2 - Arsenal
8-1 - Juventus
11-1 - Inter Milan and Manchester United

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Cool, it'll give us the chance to shine and raise our game.

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5-2 to my boys, good result :tu:

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split loyalties for me as i support both clubs.. palace played well and deserved to get level after the break.. man u were better in the second half and deserved the win.. good performance from keano as well.. when will he get that 50th goal ?

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Certainly looking like the Arseââ‚ ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s declining performances are continuing halfway through the season. Relying on a defender to score the winner in a game against a team like Portsmouth (no disrespect to them) isnââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t really what you'd call the mark of champions who are hoping to retain their crown. I always knew theyââ‚ ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢d slip up this season but I wasnââ‚ ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t expecting it to be so early.

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whilst i agree it looks like arsenal are slipping at the moment.. pompey beat us.

Trouble is I can see Chelsea loosing too many games this season.. if we have a strong second half to the season we should get second

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Yeah but we're not trying to retain anything. We're established champions whereas Arse have yet to show any long-term championship material, just as I predicted last season.

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ok get your point now...if they don't finish this season as champs I can see a few players leaving.. Viera only stayed because Real didn't offer him enough money in the summer... if they come back in with a new offer he could go as well

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:rolleyes: all the united fans bigging it up in here as usual, to be honest Russ the proof is in the points on the board....and united by their standards are not doing and by the end of New years day you will be back in 5th were you belong :p:

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Um...where am I bragging???

No-one wins the title by Christmas (although United have come close a few times :D) remember!

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lets see who's weeping on that day shall we ;) methinks it won't be the mighty red army :angel:

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bith United and Arsenal fans are all the same, they seem to think the whole football world revolves around them. Bring on Mr Glazier ;)

Very true statement Russ but United have lost it by xmas this year :D

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very true Debs and spoken like a true 'boro' fan :D

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it does, surely Man U are the centre of the universe oops:

:knock: not while i've got any braincells left

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Most Man U fans don't even know where manchester is ;)