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cimt 06-01-2021 15:12

Re: U.S Election 2020
 
So I keep seeing stuff that Mike Pence can refuse to accept votes that he believes are fraudulent. So can he in theory make it so Trump actually did win the election?

jfman 06-01-2021 15:28

Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cimt (Post 36065404)
So I keep seeing stuff that Mike Pence can refuse to accept votes that he believes are fraudulent. So can he in theory make it so Trump actually did win the election?

He really can’t but Trump is pretending to keep the campaign dollars rolling in to reduce his financial losses.

pip08456 06-01-2021 16:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cimt (Post 36065404)
So I keep seeing stuff that Mike Pence can refuse to accept votes that he believes are fraudulent. So can he in theory make it so Trump actually did win the election?

No he can't. His only duty is to count the votes and announce the result.

cimt 06-01-2021 16:48

Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Saw that he can decline votes so thank you for clarifying.

jfman 06-01-2021 16:59

Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cimt (Post 36065421)
Saw that he can decline votes so thank you for clarifying.

Majorities of the Senate and the House are separately required for this. Pence can, and should, allow both chambers to debate and vote on any set that there has been an objection to, in writing, signed by both a member of the House and a Senator.

TheDaddy 06-01-2021 17:30

Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Merrick Garland for Attorney General, wonder if he's feeling in a particularly vindictive mood...

Damien 06-01-2021 18:05

Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Trump talking about his Presidency in the past tense here......

Chris 06-01-2021 18:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36065434)
Trump talking about his Presidency in the past tense here......

People dislike him because he's achieved too much, apparently. :rofl:

Hugh 06-01-2021 18:23

Re: U.S Election 2020
 
https://apple.news/A5lMjcRyFQ6eZ5Dbjso-MXQ

Quote:

Pence breaks with Trump and says he lacks power to reject electoral votes for Biden

Vice President Mike Pence told lawmakers he lacks the legal powers to reject Electoral College votes cast for President-elect Joe Biden, even as Donald Trump used a midday rally in Washington to continue pressuring him to do just that.

“It is my considered judgment than my oath to support and defend the Constitution constrained me from claiming unilateral authority to determine which electoral votes should be counted and which should not,” the vice president wrote to members of Congress in a letter released minutes before a joint session will count the electoral tally.

The vice president’s office released the letter just as Mr Pence was about to preside over a joint session of Congress to count the Electoral College result and debate any objections.
Better link

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/06/mike...-election.html

Quote:

Mike Pence rejects Trump’s call to overturn Biden election

Vice President Mike Pence said he would refuse President Donald Trump’s demand that he try to block the confirmation of Joe Biden’s election as the next president of the United States by Congress.

Pence’s statement breaking with Trump came minutes before the vice president was due to preside over a joint session of Congress, which is meeting to declare Biden the victor.

The statement confirms the view of election experts: that the vice president has no power under the Constitution to refuse to accept the certification of presidential election results from individual states.
Expect someone to Tweet about this soon...

Damien 06-01-2021 19:02

Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Mitch McConnell not mincing his words.

Quote:

"If this election were overturned by mere allegations from the losing side, our democracy would enter a death spiral."

jfman 06-01-2021 19:28

Re: U.S Election 2020
 
The police should just shoot these fools.

Hugh 06-01-2021 19:29

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-prot...ts-11609945368
Quote:

Mr. Trump encouraged his supporters, some carrying American flags and pro-Trump signs, to march to the Capitol to pressure Congress to reverse President-elect Biden’s win. Some began marching as Mr. Trump continued his speech.

Hundreds of protesters knocked over a barricade on the west side of the Capitol and marched up the steps, some yelling “take the Capitol!” and reaching the edge of the building. Police sirens blared and officers rushed toward the crowd.
https://twitter.com/igorbobic/status...689399297?s=21
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Protesters have breached the Capitol. They’re outside the Senate chamber

Police officers are holding them steps away from the Senate chamber, which is locked. Senators are inside. I see a few confederate flags.

Damien 06-01-2021 19:31

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Someone's gonna get seriously hurt by these thugs

papa smurf 06-01-2021 19:33

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US election: Capitol building in lockdown as Trump supporters clash with police outside

https://news.sky.com/story/georgia-r...enate-12180470

Mr K 06-01-2021 19:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36065442)
The police should just shoot these fools.

Well Republicans do love guns, so they can't complain.


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