Cable Forum - Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

The Grauniad comments are pure gold this morning. Absolutely packed with Labour voters who seem utterly shocked that Corbyn has turned out to be pro Brexit and pro getting out of the single market. :rofl:

It's almost as if they didn't know what they were voting for. :dozey:

papa smurf

30-06-2017 09:07

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35905683)

he's more Soviet union than European union ;)

daveeb

30-06-2017 10:49

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35905688)

It's almost as if they didn't know what they were voting for. :dozey:

Well you could say that about the Brexit referendum as well.

I suspect a lot of people voted Labour as the lesser of two evils (from an EU point of view) hoping for a softer version of Brexit if there was a reduced Tory majority. He was noticeably quiet on this topic pre-election, wisely leaving the Tories to argue amongst themselves instead. I do think the Corbyn honeymoon could be coming to an end tho' as his pro hard Brexit leanings become clearer.

It's not at all clear how things are going to pan out. Anyone claiming to know I would say is just speculating or has a top quality crystal ball.

papa smurf

30-06-2017 10:53

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Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 35905704)

Well you could say that about the Brexit referendum as well.

I suspect a lot of people voted Labour as the lesser of two evils (from an EU point of view) hoping for a softer version of Brexit if there was a reduced Tory majority. He was noticeably quiet on this topic pre-election, wisely leaving the Tories to argue amongst themselves instead. I do think the Corbyn honeymoon could be coming to an end tho' as his pro hard Brexit leanings become clearer.

It's not at all clear how things are going to pan out. Anyone claiming to know I would say is just speculating or has a top quality crystal ball.

did hero's comment even ruffle your hair as it went over your head ;)

daveeb

30-06-2017 13:39

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35905705)

did hero's comment even ruffle your hair as it went over your head ;)

Care to elaborate then oh wise one, I don't know him and took comment at face value. ;)

Osem	01-07-2017 23:30

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Labour the lesser of two evils? :rofl:

Labour under, Comrade Corbyn and Marxist McDonnell, will be very nasty indeed. Just ask the MP's they're undermining and look at their track record of anti-semitism, intimidation etc.

1andrew1

02-07-2017 00:02

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With household incomes falling £200 since the vote, it's no surprise the nation's waking up.

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The clear majority of Britons – 54 per cent - would vote to Remain in the European Union if another referendum was held while just 46 percent would back Leave, the Survation survey showed.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a3577806.html

pip08456

02-07-2017 00:41

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35905891)

With household incomes falling £200 since the vote, it's no surprise the nation's waking up.

Have they really Andrew? You linked to the survey would you mind linking to the £200 loss in income as well?

Is it a loss per month, per year, per lifetime???

Paul	02-07-2017 00:56

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35905891)

With household incomes falling £200 since the vote, it's no surprise the nation's waking up.

Waking up to what ?

On what do you base this figure, and how is it linked to a brexit vote ?

Also, didnt the original surveys, before the vote, also say the vote would go as 'remain' :dozey:

RizzyKing

02-07-2017 02:08

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He's probably on about the devaluation of the pound which some pro remain group has interpreted as a household loss since the referendum. Andrew what you need to really start understanding is that despite the constant remain groups saying "we didn't know what we voted for" a large majority of leave voters did understand. We simply felt it was a price worth paying to be out of the EU, personally i expect to be worse off for a good decade maybe more but in time greater prosperity will be enjoyed by my kids.

Osem	02-07-2017 11:38

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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35905895)

Waking up to what ?

On what do you base this figure, and how is it linked to a brexit vote ?

Also, didnt the original surveys, before the vote, also say the vote would go as 'remain' :dozey:

Everything negative's down to the Brexit vote, you should know that. That'll be until the EU implodes but that'll probably be blamed on Brexit too... :spin:

Meanwhile:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40471466

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The government is to end an arrangement that allows other countries to fish in UK waters, it has been announced.
The convention allows Irish, Dutch, French, German and Belgian vessels to fish within six and 12 nautical miles of UK coastline.
Environment Secretary Michael Gove said the move would help take back control of fishing access to UK waters.
But Greenpeace said ending the arrangement would not alone improve the future of the UK's fishing industry.
The Scottish government backed the exit, saying it had pressed for the move "for some time".
The London Fisheries Convention sits alongside the EU Common Fisheries Policy, which allows all European countries access between 12 and 200 nautical miles of the UK and sets quotas for how much fish nations can catch.

papa smurf

02-07-2017 11:47

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35905930)

i can see the car carriers in Grimsby docks from my front door ,what fishing industry ? there are no trawlers left .

1andrew1

02-07-2017 11:56

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35905896)

If your kids live in Northern Ireland then they will be better off thanks to May's Magic Money Tree. Otherwise they won't be. We paid 0.6% of GDP for EU membership and got increased GDP of 10% back in return.

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Meanwhile, the car industry is suffering a huge lack of investment post-Brexit vote. Let's hope it recovers as it's a significant employer in the UK.

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Investment in UK car industry plummets amid Brexit uncertainty
Investment in the UK car industry has fallen to just £322m in the first half of 2017, in a sign that companies are delaying or cancelling spending ahead of the UK leaving the EU.
Investment in the UK car industry last year was £1.66bn, which was down from the £2.5bn in investment recorded in 2015, as carmakers and their suppliers delayed non-essential investment following the EU referendum last June.
But investment looks to have fallen even further in the first six months of 2017, according to figures compiled by the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders industry body.

https://www.ft.com/content/0c3427b2-...8-8055f264aa8b

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35905933)

i can see the car carriers in Grimsby docks from my front door ,what fishing industry ? there are no trawlers left .

A very sad situation caused by over-fishing.

Ramrod

02-07-2017 14:00

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35905688)

It's almost as if they didn't know what they were voting for. :dozey:

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Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 35905704)

Well you could say that about the Brexit referendum as well.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35905705)

did hero's comment even ruffle your hair as it went over your head ;)

See, this is why I come here :rofl:

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35905896)

Andrew what you need to really start understanding is that despite the constant remain groups saying "we didn't know what we voted for" a large majority of leave voters did understand. We simply felt it was a price worth paying to be out of the EU, personally i expect to be worse off for a good decade maybe more but in time greater prosperity will be enjoyed by my kids.

My thoughts exactly :clap::tu:

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