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vincerooney 23-09-2014 12:10

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Originally Posted by Bircho (Post 35730771)
The placeholder for Sheffield Live has appeard on channel 159. Goes on air at 6.30 pm today.

How long will it last one wonders.

theone2k10 23-09-2014 12:32

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RichardCoulter 23-09-2014 18:29

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35730782)
How long will it last one wonders.

Well, London Live is struggling and their request to decrease the amount of live programming to cut costs shortly after launching has been refused by Ofcom.

If our capital city cannot sustain a local channel, I very much doubt that any of the others will survive.

IMHO Hunts vanity project is dead in the water as predicted and the money wasted at a time of austerity could have been put to much, much better use.

---------- Post added at 17:29 ---------- Previous post was at 17:06 ----------

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...l#post35730841

Breaking news regarding tonights TV services for VM customers who live at or near Plymouth.

1andrew1 24-09-2014 00:28

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 3
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35730837)
If our capital city cannot sustain a local channel, I very much doubt that any of the others will survive.

There is quite a convincing argument that London is not like the rest of the UK and should not be seen as a reliable testbed for local TV. LondonLive is sensibly changing to target the readers of sister company the Evening Standard rather than the Janet Street-Porter type approach it initially went for. This may make well increase its success, it certainly should help reduce costs. It remains to be seen how well it does but we can't extrapolate the performance of one operator in an unrepresentative city to say that Local TV does not work.
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35730837)
IMHO Hunts vanity project is dead in the water as predicted and the money wasted at a time of austerity could have been put to much, much better use.

Whilst there is no evidence at this early stage that the project is dead in the water, I am inclined to agree with you that it is a bit of a pet project. I would have preferred to have seen the money spent on retaining BBC3 on cable, terrestial and satellite platforms.

vincerooney 24-09-2014 11:52

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i think the trouble with local tv is what do they actually show? they arent funded enough to make actual original shows so any shows they make will look cheap. or do they just show rolling news footage?? but why would i want to watch news focused on liverpool 24/7?

Man buys pastie which looks like pope. Dog runs away from owner and kills duck.

there isnt enough news in liverpool to warrant a channel. will be interesting to see how they deal with it.

theone2k10 24-09-2014 12:21

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35730932)
i think the trouble with local tv is what do they actually show? they arent funded enough to make actual original shows so any shows they make will look cheap. or do they just show rolling news footage?? but why would i want to watch news focused on liverpool 24/7?

Man buys pastie which looks like pope. Dog runs away from owner and kills duck.

there isnt enough news in liverpool to warrant a channel. will be interesting to see how they deal with it.

What i think could work for local tv is if they get involved with the local sports teams etc maybe show a sunday league match live, come to a deal with football clubs to show things like the u21s matches live etc, get more involved in the communities too.
Easier said than done i know but it could work.

1andrew1 24-09-2014 13:48

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35730932)
i think the trouble with local tv is what do they actually show? they arent funded enough to make actual original shows so any shows they make will look cheap. or do they just show rolling news footage?? but why would i want to watch news focused on liverpool 24/7?

Man buys pastie which looks like pope. Dog runs away from owner and kills duck.

there isnt enough news in liverpool to warrant a channel. will be interesting to see how they deal with it.

So much history, culture and sport in Liverpool, there are opportunities there, plus the region has a very strong identity, it's really whether it can be done for the right quality and price. A channel there would probably neeed to collaborate with lots of other institiutions there like the Universities, music venues, museums, Tate, football clubs to make a success of it and to reduce costs.

Media Boy UK 24-09-2014 14:07

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35730932)
i think the trouble with local tv is what do they actually show? they arent funded enough to make actual original shows so any shows they make will look cheap. or do they just show rolling news footage?? but why would i want to watch news focused on liverpool 24/7?

Man buys pastie which looks like pope. Dog runs away from owner and kills duck.

there isnt enough news in liverpool to warrant a channel. will be interesting to see how they deal with it.

The owners of the following Local TV Channel has confirmed that they will be on Virgin Channel 159 from launch:

-Belfast: NvTv (Launching September 29th)
-Bristol: Made in Bristol (Launching October 8th)
-Cardiff: Made in Cardiff (Launching October 15th)
-Leeds: Made in Leeds
-Liverpool: Bay TV Liverpool
-Southampton: That's Solent
-Edinburgh: STV Edinburgh (Launching January 2015)
-Oxford: That's Oxford
-Basingstoke: That’s Basingstoke
-Guildford: That’s Surrey
-Reading: That’s Reading
-Salisbury: That’s Salisbury

Anypermitedroute 24-09-2014 14:28

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35730952)
So much history, culture and sport in Liverpool, there are opportunities there, plus the region has a very strong identity, it's really whether it can be done for the right quality and price. A channel there would probably neeed to collaborate with lots of other institiutions there like the Universities, music venues, museums, Tate, football clubs to make a success of it and to reduce costs.

You could have biographies on the Beatles, Kenny Everett, Cilla, jimmy Tarbuck, Tom O Connor, Ray Quinn, Craig Phillips, Edwina Currie the list just go on!!!!

Media Boy UK 24-09-2014 15:35

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Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35730959)
You could have biographies on the Beatles, Kenny Everett, Cilla, jimmy Tarbuck, Tom O Connor, Ray Quinn, Craig Phillips, Edwina Currie the list just go on!!!!

Maybe they will show Brookside?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...d_in_Liverpool

tassiekev 24-09-2014 16:39

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35730932)
i think the trouble with local tv is what do they actually show? they arent funded enough to make actual original shows so any shows they make will look cheap. or do they just show rolling news footage?? but why would i want to watch news focused on liverpool 24/7?

Man buys pastie which looks like pope. Dog runs away from owner and kills duck.

there isnt enough news in liverpool to warrant a channel. will be interesting to see how they deal with it.

Scouse olympics????:D

jodash 24-09-2014 16:59

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35730965)

Would love to see that back best soap ever!

vincerooney 24-09-2014 16:59

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35730965)

hahaha i would watch it if it has brookside.

good old ron dixon

Tricky Trevor 24-09-2014 17:33

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 3
 
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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35730932)
i think the trouble with local tv is what do they actually show? they arent funded enough to make actual original shows so any shows they make will look cheap. or do they just show rolling news footage?? but why would i want to watch news focused on liverpool 24/7?

Man buys pastie which looks like pope. Dog runs away from owner and kills duck.

there isnt enough news in liverpool to warrant a channel. will be interesting to see how they deal with it.

We watch a really good selection on Notts TV where there is plenty of variety.

Here is a selection on catch up

http://www.nottstv.com/videos

RichardCoulter 24-09-2014 18:04

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 3
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35730905)
There is quite a convincing argument that London is not like the rest of the UK and should not be seen as a reliable testbed for local TV. LondonLive is sensibly changing to target the readers of sister company the Evening Standard rather than the Janet Street-Porter type approach it initially went for. This may make well increase its success, it certainly should help reduce costs. It remains to be seen how well it does but we can't extrapolate the performance of one operator in an unrepresentative city to say that Local TV does not work.

Whilst there is no evidence at this early stage that the project is dead in the water, I am inclined to agree with you that it is a bit of a pet project. I would have preferred to have seen the money spent on retaining BBC3 on cable, terrestial and satellite platforms.

My reasoning for viewing London as a testbed for the other local TV stations was that it has a high density of population and would be attractive to advertisers.

Why do you think that London cannot be compared to the rest of the UK?

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Originally Posted by Tricky Trevor (Post 35730974)
We watch a really good selection on Notts TV where there is plenty of variety.

Here is a selection on catch up

http://www.nottstv.com/videos

Local TV catch up!!! I never even thought about that, this puts many of the smaller cable channels to shame for not having a catch up service at all.

Also, local TV stations are restricted to their target areas on both cable and satellite. The reason being given is that this is because of rights issues. Making programmes available via VOD makes a mockery of this (perhaps they only show content they have created themselves).


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