Re: Unstoppable migration?
 

They are going to be disappointed because Brexit is going to make very little difference to the levels of immigration.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8326101.html

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 

Well, let's see what 'very similar' actually means. I dare say that those Europeans we actually need in this country will not notice much difference. The ne'er-do-wells may have a different experience.

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 

Thats debatable : https://fullfact.org/immigration/how...blic-finances/

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iirc, we (the UK) built one a few years back, didn't use it properly and broke it! :D

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As opposed to our old state run industries which put the workers first and the consumers last :D
Looks like the customers always come last :(

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 

The water industry, as well as Railways, are examples of where privatisation doesn't work. One of the supposed benefits is competition - there isn't in the water sector - just a privatised monopoly.
Still, its the mugs in the SE that will go dry first, and they certainly aren't having any of our lovely Northern water. If they want it, they'll have to pay lots ;)

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 

Indeed. I think most people have a problem with the free movement of people that the EU have forced us to adopt because we have no control over the quality and quantity of an unlimited number that are able to come here.

Never again do I want to see Romanians living in our subways and openly defecating in our parks.

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We will be able to let in the number and type that we want, rather than them being able to turn up with no job or home arranged.

I do hope that they somehow make it clear that this is not a permanent arrangement though. As automation takes hold for many of these unskilled jobs that they fill, we need to be able to have an exit strategy in place for them, or we will end up having to keep them once they are surplus to requirements.

An alternative idea to fill any vacancies was floated today by the justice strategy:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...david-gauke-EU

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 

linkAs for water. I agree. It should have never been privatized.

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 

Yes 60% of the public must be a odd lot it seems.;)

https://news.sky.com/story/majority-...shows-11193313

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 

I never ever thought water should have been privatised.It's a necessity and a basic human right and should be provided by the state as a utility.We don't have a choice about it unlike the other privatised industries where we can find alternatives between gas or electricity or road or train.

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 

Competition was considered back in 2016, but would have only resulted in a saving of about £8 per year. Many businesses, however, have been able to chooses who supplies their water since 1/4/17.

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 

Indeed :tu:
I also think that rail shouldn't have been privatized either but for the omnishambles it had become. I'm actually against privatizing anything that is part of the infrastructure of the nation but that then leaves the problem of unions, inefficiency, jobs for life etc. to be dealt with before those utilities can function at their best.

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 

Privatisation was good because it ensured the badly needed investment that was required.

What is so sacred about water in terms of the public/private debate? The water is free - what we are paying for is the means of getting a pure supply of it to our homes and the means of disposing of the waste as sewerage. We were relying on old Victorian pipes with no public money available to replace them. That's why water was privatised.

As for the railways, nobody surely who used the railways while under public sector control would want to go back to that! Pre-war trains, window frames so dirty that if you put your hand on them, you could only remove the grime with soap and water, revolting turned up sandwiches which I wouldn't feed to the birds.... Honestly, who wants that?

In my part of the world, we had a two-carriage train to London, which was not well used. The fact that we now have a modern eight-carriage service with most seats taken speaks volumes for the difference privatisation has made.

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 

B R pork pies.... Yes I remember those :D

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 

So does my stomach..... he, he, he.

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 

You're right there OB, privatisation has worked wonders on the railways. Cheap fares, reliable services , no overcrowding, decent rolling stock, no strikes :erm:

It's worked so well that even this Govt. has had to renationalise the East Coast mainline !

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 

And you lived to tell the tale? :D