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Eh???

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=Google+Search

nothing there !!!!

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Does it have a "vault" ???

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We have a pub called the Vaults in town, but not every pub has them, not even in my mums village where the pubs are 300+ years old :cool:

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I've never heard of 'vaults' in connection with pubs.

I've certainly never heard of them in connection with the BNP ... this is that off topic thing again isn't it? Can I talk about roses again? ;)

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The vaults tend to be the rooms were the pool table and darts are

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Firstly, its not alright to say something like white blah blah and not about Nigerians blah blah. If you bother to read my posts, you'd realise i've been refuting both and never said it was even wrong to say either in the first place.
And when i asked the question about paedophiles, this was the exact response i expected - finally, you've delivered. That response being an attitude of victimisation and unfairness. Even though i'm not making any double standards at all, you've finally decided to take the "its not fair" and "why are you attacking me?" attitude when comments, which can be taken as offensive, are directly related to YOU.
If the first thing anybody said was "whites are likely to be paedophiles", you and many others, would have made the exact same "its so unfair,i shouldnt be victim to this" speech. THAT is why you're complaining about invisible double standards, in order to try and enhance your feelings of victimisation.

Pakistan is the most corrupt country on earth, and theres facts to prove it. Find me facts to prove Nigerians are more likely to commit fraud and white males are more likely to be paedophiles.

Where have i tared policeman with the same brush? I havent. But if you're referring to alis, then in that case you're tarring him and me with the same brush! The very same hypocrisy you're complaining about!

No, you imagine its one rule for me and one rule for you - even when its clearly not, because it propogates your own agenda. Its the exact same tactic the BNP use.

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I have no idea what he's on about. Sorry.:shrug:

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So if you have never said that it's wrong to say so, why are we arguing?

My response (about white males being bore likely to be paedophiles)was not made with an attitude of victimization! It's a statement of fact. The fact that I also happen to be a white male is neither here nor there. I don't feel put upon because white males may be seen as the main perpetrators of paedophilia. Why should I?

I am feeling put upon because you seem to be taking offence at my comment about Nigerian fraudsters whilst simultaneously judging the entire police force and one officer in paticular.

What?! If someone started a thread like that I, for one, would agree with it! I do not feel remotely victimised bt the claim that most paedophiles are white males. Why should I? If I did I would just be burying my head in the sand.

and that country is run by pakistanis (irrespective of their class) I will have a bash at it.

You are quite right, it was aliferste:"You see, what i was insinuating was that the police are institutionally racist anyway, therefore no wonder a policeman would come out with a statement like that.....you see now??"
"I dont need to assume anything..........the Macpherson report backs me up :)
Dont think anything had really moved forward since then !"

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Nigerians trying to repair their world image
nigerian gov warning of fraud
'fraud is a way of life for nigerians'
read the second to last sentence in the comment by umberto gui



I have been looking for the white male paedophile bit and as yet I cannot find anything. I am not looking any longer as it is a not very nice search and I dont really want to read any more about it.

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"Vaults" in relation to public houses........it used to be room, as Defiant said, where the darts and pool were. It was usually located in one corner or at the back of the pub. It is not in any way connected to the Google searches 'vaults' in that it was not underground or had curved roof structures !!

The room was generally men only :shocked: very basic decor with no carpet, where the seasoned beer (no lager please !) drinkers congregated. The term is rarely used nowadays. Another term to describe similar rooms would be the 'tap room'.

How either of these terms came into being I cannot determine. I used to spend most of my formative drinking years in 'vaults', but that was forty years ago !!

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For the sake of it i expect.

I didnt take offense to it at all. I questioned it by making clear; merely because Nigerians may disproportionately commit more fraud, does not mean a Nigerian is more likely to commit fraud than the next man - which is what you said.

Ramrod, none of those links prove what i've been arguing: Nigerians are more likely to commit fraud.

When Nigeria was still under British rule, it was run by the British - and it was just as corrupt, infact more so then. Did that make the Nigerians under British rule corrupt? No.

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This is the first time I mentioned the subject:" I'm saying that a fair few Nigerians go in for fraud"
Not that all of them do! I never said that, I have been at great pains not to say that, in fact I have pointed out that it's not the case that they all are fraudsters.

eh? read what you just wrote. say that again?



So you are saying that Nigeria is corrupt!
So what's wrong with me saying that Nigerians seem to go in for a lot of fraud?

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This seems to be an odd conclusion ??......

If Nigeria was corrupt under British rule and is still corrupt now under Nigerian rule, that would seem to prove to me that it is indeed the Nigerians (the constant) who are corrupt :confused:

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Not even the last one?
Or how about the fact that the Nigerian government is taking out newspaper ads to warn people about Nigerian fraudsters?

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You failed:

"open your eyes to the possibility that black male Nigerians (for instance) are more likely to commit fraud."
And your copper conversation:
"I asked him if any ethnic group was more likely to be found commiting fraud here and he instantly replied: "Oh god yes! Nigerians, they're notorious for fraud Just ask any dss fraud investigator!"

I meant arguing against.

I've lived in Nigeria.........yes i am bloody well saying Nigeria is corrupt country.

Theres that victimisation mentality again. NOTHING. And i never said there was. Sheesh.

Thats a pretty poor logic, especially seeing as the Nigerians under British rule werent the corrupt ones. Therefore, the Nigerians in your statement are not a constant. If the above simple, narrow logic is all it takes to prove something to you, then God help us all.
And its the British who instilled corruption in the culture of Nigeria, which is part and parcel of the current state of Nigeria. But thats a whole different debate entirely.

You say as a group, white males are more likely to commit acts of peadophillia.
So going by your logic above, because the British dont advertise warnings to people about white, male, hetrosexual paedophiles then that proves white, male, hetrosexuals as a group arent more likely to commit acts of paedophillia.
And the Nigerian government warn people about Nigerian fraudsters, because Nigerian fraud is a big problem and Nigerians, proportionately commit more fraud. None of this proves that any ethnic group is more likely to commit fraud. Especially, as i've already said; there is no Nigerian ethnic group.