Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36194966)

So a trans man has to use the female toilets and a trans woman has to use the male toilets.
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36194973)

We might also ask ourselves how we survived the 1980s, which had more than its fair share of androgeny, cross dressing and New Romantics, all using the correctly sexed pub toilets. And somehow there was no genocide of Culture Club fans.
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36194973)

As I keep saying, the risks are asymmetric. A man in a woman’s toilet poses a risk to the women. A woman in a man’s toilet is at risk from men.

Either way, it is an assertion of trans ideology that they have no choice but to role-play as the opposite sex, and it is an assertion that ought to be challenged, because as far as I can see, if a man slaps on lipstick and a dress and then complains he would be vulnerable in a men’s toilet, he has made himself vulnerable and he ought to be asking himself, in the first instance, what he could be doing to mitigate that. Beyond that, we ought to be challenging the men in the men’s toilet to see if they really do have such a narrow and fragile conception of masculinity that they can’t cope with unconventional forms of dress. And we also need to make very clear that whosever problem this is, it is not the women, who want to have only women in their single-sex women’s private space. A great big chunk of the trans rights movement is just men’s rights in lipstick, trying to make women give way to them. It is misogyny on stilts and it has to stop.

We might also ask ourselves how we survived the 1980s, which had more than its fair share of androgeny, cross dressing and New Romantics, all using the correctly sexed pub toilets. And somehow there was no genocide of Culture Club fans.

Trans dogma needs challenged. We need to stop assuming the bleating about genocide and lives at risk is true and start demanding receipts.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36195027)

Social media is going wild over this. There's suggestions that trans people could/should use the disabled toilet, disabled people complaining that there is usually only one & they will have to wait (especially relevant where a disability/illness gives rise to extra toileting needs, especially at short notice), some venues are saying that they will ignore the law and a few saying that they will designate one or both toilets as gender neutral. Also, there are claims that the Government will amend the law to negate this ruling.

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36195025)

Wait .... you're name isn't Pierre :eek:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36195027)

Social media is going wild over this. There's suggestions that trans people could/should use the disabled toilet, disabled people complaining that there is usually only one & they will have to wait (especially relevant where a disability/illness gives rise to extra toileting needs, especially at short notice), some venues are saying that they will ignore the law and a few saying that they will designate one or both toilets as gender neutral. Also, there are claims that the Government will amend the law to negate this ruling.

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36195039)

You are KKKaroline Leavitt, and I claim my £10… :D

Seriously, though, Richard, you could get a job writing articles for the Telegraph/Mail/Sun, as you have just spouted sourceless fear-mongering, caveated by "suggestions", "some venues are saying", "a few saying", and last, but not least, "there are claims"…

Let’s put your writing style to the test - "There’s suggestions that Richard is making stuff up, and some forums are saying that they will ban Richard, and a few saying that he deliberately tries to scaremonger. Also, there are claims that Richard, is in fact, the offspring of Vladimir Putin and Princess Anne.

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36195076)

Can you provide a link/quote for the "plenty examples for the public sector for the conversion to gender-neutral toilets", please?

I read through the links, and couldn’t find any - all I could find was this comment

https://www.gov.uk/government/consul...ultation-paper

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36195069)

I've seen most of this on Facebook if you want to have a look.

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36195083)

Doubt there's a single definitive list, but I did do a search.
The "reverse the rise of" is a bit of a clue.
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From 3 years ago
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It's now law.