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Pierre

31-08-2024 00:03

Re: Here comes the tax rises

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36182289)

Of course you are, but thats expected of you these days. :rolleyes:

I have no love for labour, but picking out people for having a good time on holiday ? Just more of your nonsense. :td:

We’ve had 14 years of this going on one direction, I’m sending it the other way ……..and now you’re upset ?

Paul	31-08-2024 03:46

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36182292)

We’ve had 14 years of this going on one direction, I’m sending it the other way

Huh :confused:

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36182292)

……..and now you’re upset ?

...... Nope.

Damien

31-08-2024 07:22

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36182285)

https://news.sky.com/story/deputy-pm...isher-13205971

Great that she’s having such a brilliant time, whilst her party cripples pensioners and attacks anyone that has tried to save for their future and then hands over the proceeds by capitulating to junior doctors, train drivers and no doubt anyone else that will ask.

What do you think should have been done about Doctors' pay? You seem very angry we can't just keep paying them less and less in real terms. If it makes you feel better they're still among the worst paid in Europe, America and Australia and much less than they were paid 10 years ago.

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I may be being unkind, but it reads a lot like, Tories are out, Labour’s in, can we just not look too hard at Labour now?

No, it's just an observation that people are more disengaged with politics now the election has happened and the Tories are out. It's pretty much true of all Governments which is why, 5 years out from the election, they tend to do the more unpopular stuff in the budget.

papa smurf

31-08-2024 09:11

Re: Here comes the tax rises

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36182285)

https://news.sky.com/story/deputy-pm...isher-13205971

Great that she’s having such a brilliant time, whilst her party cripples pensioners and attacks anyone that has tried to save for their future and then hands over the proceeds by capitulating to junior doctors, train drivers and no doubt anyone else that will ask.

---------- Post added at 21:57 ---------- Previous post was at 21:53 ----------

Labour getting their cronyism in early doors.

I may be being unkind, but it reads a lot like, Tories are out, Labour’s in, can we just not look too hard at Labour now?

She's just avin a good time in eyebeefa before she bans it for everyone else.

RichardCoulter

31-08-2024 14:59

Re: Here comes the tax rises

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36180172)

Again, they should have planned for their financial future better and not expected that the state would be there to support them

Assuming that individuals are in a financial position to be able to do so, I agree, but they're not. Some people have done extremely worthwhile, but low paid, jobs that benefit society or have been unable to
work at all because of caring responsibilities that save the taxpayer a fortune.

---------- Post added at 14:59 ---------- Previous post was at 14:51 ----------

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Originally Posted by Escapee (Post 36182250)

Remember that if you are running a small company and you are the sole employee, you personally have generated all of the revenue. The business will have operating costs on a daily basis, investment in equipment etc, accountancy fees, PAYE fees, the cost to process and collect VAT for HMRC, insurance fees such as professional indemnity and public liability. If the director takes a salary there's employer NI and finally the corporation tax. The director can only take dividends out of what's left after all of this has been paid, but remembering to leave a surplus of retained profits for lean periods.

Offsetting losses is not much help in reality for a small business if there's a lean time where there is little or no money being generated.

Do they pay double taxation in the USA as we do when a contract has been deemed to be inside IR35?

In lean times small business owners are able to claim means tested benefits just like anybody else. However, the changw of calculation rules since the introduction of Universal Credit is now causing some problems (in particular for farmers) as is the use of a notional minimum income (whether actually earned or not) after one year.

Mick	31-08-2024 20:46

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Labour before election: “Fully costed” for years stated & attacked Tories for wanting to reduce WFP. After elected make their lame excuses.

After election: Winter fuel payments stopped for 10 million.

Able to pay Train drivers £70K. That’s nothing to do with Tories. Can’t keep blaming them.

And now the cronyism, glasses for passes. Labour activists & supporters getting top civil service job, don’t ever fecking call Tories again. :rolleyes:

Damien

31-08-2024 20:58

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TFL drivers are paid from the TFL budget. It isn't given a government subsidy apart from infrastructure projects such as Crossrail. Some other train drivers outside of TFL were already paid £70,000k tho but that predates the election.

Pierre

31-08-2024 21:27

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36182294)

Huh :confused:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...oogle_vignette

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The pictures of partying MPs have added to a growing sense that the Prime Minister is leading a “zombie government” at a time of economic crisis as the ongoing Truss v Sunak leadership contest rolls into September.

Tory MP partying at time of economic crisis…..….bad

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...ilmed-33566381

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Ms Rayner jumped up and down in time with the music. She kept one hand behind her back and threw up the other with her finger in the air as she commanded the crowd.

Labour MP partying during time of economic crisis…….good.

It’s very simple

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36182297)

What do you think should have been done about Doctors' pay?

an above inflation pay rise, in line with he private sector, which would have been around 5% that would have been reasonable.

And I would have happy to agree to that for a further two years, so 15% over three years.

More than reasonable.

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Here comes the tax rises

There go the tax payers………..

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/ri...140707213.html

Paul	31-08-2024 21:52

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Where does it say one is bad, one is good ?
Not that I would pay the slightest attention to the Daily Mirror anyway.
Not exactly known for their balanced articles.

I hope Mr Grove had a good holiday as well. ;)

Hugh	31-08-2024 22:04

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36182313)

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...oogle_vignette

Tory MP partying at time of economic crisis…..….bad

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...ilmed-33566381

Labour MP partying during time of economic crisis…….good.

It’s very simple

---------- Post added at 21:17 ---------- Previous post was at 21:10 ----------

an above inflation pay rise, in line with he private sector, which would have been around 5% that would have been reasonable.

And I would have happy to agree to that for a further two years, so 15% over three years.

More than reasonable.

---------- Post added at 21:27 ---------- Previous post was at 21:17 ----------

There go the tax payers………..

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/ri...140707213.html

From the article dated Tue, 18 Jun 2024

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According to the Henley Private Wealth Migration Report, 9,500 millionaires, defined in US dollar terms, left the UK last year

There went the tax-payers, when the Conservatives were in power…

From the actual report

https://www.henleyglobal.com/newsroo...on-report-2024

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Notably, during the six-year period from 2017 to 2023 post Brexit, the UK lost a total of 16,500 millionaires to migration.

Paul	31-08-2024 22:07

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Are they tax payers ?
I thought the complaint was that the "rich" keep avoiding paying tax.

Pierre

31-08-2024 22:11

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36182317)

Where does it say one is bad, one is good ?

It’s the narrative Paul, come on.

Tory ……….

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partying MPs have added to a growing sense that the Prime Minister is leading a “zombie government” at a time of economic crisis

Tory MPs partying during economic crisis…….bad

Labour…….

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She kept one hand behind her back and threw up the other with her finger in the air as she commanded the crowd

Labour Deputy PM during Economic crisis and 20 billion black hole, partying……Girl Boss…….all good here.

We’ve had 14 years of the left slagging of the Tory’s daily (sometimes justifiably). Labour are now in power and I will do the same to them …were warranted, and when I see two tier standards applied or rank hypocrisy.

nomadking

31-08-2024 22:11

Re: Here comes the tax rises

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36182318)

From the article dated Tue, 18 Jun 2024

There went the tax-payers, when the Conservatives were in power…

From the actual report

https://www.henleyglobal.com/newsroo...on-report-2024

Anticipating that Labour would get in.

Pierre

31-08-2024 23:26

Re: Here comes the tax rises

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36182318)

From the article dated Tue, 18 Jun 2024

There went the tax-payers, when the Conservatives were in power…

From the actual report

https://www.henleyglobal.com/newsroo...on-report-2024

Even worse then, they saw the writing on the wall, the incoming dicks.

It’s worse than imagined

Damien

01-09-2024 07:18

Re: Here comes the tax rises

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36182320)

We’ve had 14 years of the left slagging of the Tory’s daily (sometimes justifiably). Labour are now in power and I will do the same to them …were warranted, and when I see two tier standards applied or rank hypocrisy.

I don't think attacking Rayner for going on holiday when Parliament is in recess is a valid criticism.

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