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Hugh 16-08-2024 17:50
Re: US Election 2024
 
He didn’t say receiving it was better, he said it was better….

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That’s the highest award you can get as a civilian, it’s the equivalent of the Congressional Medal of Honor, but civilian version. It’s actually much better, because everyone gets the Congressional Medal of Honor – that’s soldiers. They’re either in very bad shape because they’ve been hit so many times by bullets, or they’re dead,”
But you carry on Trumpsplaining…

Mr K 16-08-2024 17:54
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36181501)
He didn’t say receiving it was better, he said it was better….



But you carry on Trumpsplaining…
It's caused by 'TDS' I believe....
A particularly nasty illness it is too, so do have some pity for the afflicted.

Chris 16-08-2024 17:56
Re: US Election 2024ill
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36181492)

Or he was making a joke that receiving the Presidential Medal of Freedom, is a lot better than receiving the Congressional Medal of Honor, because if you’re receiving the Congressional Medal of Honor….you’re most likely dead, or severely injured.
Or, he’s being entirely consistent with his known disdain for veterans who he has described as ‘suckers’ and ‘losers’.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...uckers/615997/

Trump doesn’t understand soldiers because he doesn’t understand what’s in it for them. ‘What’s in it for me?’ is the only way he knows how to operate.

Pierre 16-08-2024 18:52
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36181501)
He didn’t say receiving it was better, he said it was better….
But you carry on Trumpsplaining…
Your TDS is truly affecting your cognitive abilities……..

OK, I’ll do it your way.

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Or he was making a joke that the Presidential Medal of Freedom, is a lot better than the Congressional Medal of Honor, because if you have the Congressional Medal of Honor….you’re most likely dead, or severely injured.

Still works, still funny.

Chris 16-08-2024 19:01
Re: US Election 2024
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36181508)
Still works, still funny.
I doubt many veterans or their families would agree.

It’s indicative of how far the standard of public debate has fallen in the US that a presidential candidate can make comments (or attempt jokes) like this and get away with it. Say what you like about the state of UK politics but nobody in public office could say anything remotely like this and not be hounded out of their job within a week.

Pierre 16-08-2024 19:19
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36181509)
I doubt many veterans or their families would agree.
No doubt

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It’s indicative of how far the standard of public debate has fallen in the US that a presidential candidate can make comments (or attempt jokes) like this and get away with it. Say what you like about the state of UK politics but nobody in public office could say anything remotely like this and not be hounded out of their job within a week.
Indeed, I don’t disagree but the reason he liked by so many, and indeed hated by so many (mainly establishment types) is that he is not a polished politician….still….he has no filter and says lots of things a career politician wouldn’t.

Is the joke in poor taste? Yes, it was the first thing I said several posts ago. Should you say it as a presidential candidate in front of an audience……..probably not.

Would you say it at home or to a group of friends……probably yes.

That’s who and what he is.

Damien 16-08-2024 22:17
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36181509)
I doubt many veterans or their families would agree.

It’s indicative of how far the standard of public debate has fallen in the US that a presidential candidate can make comments (or attempt jokes) like this and get away with it. Say what you like about the state of UK politics but nobody in public office could say anything remotely like this and not be hounded out of their job within a week.
Remember when he had a go at McCain for being captured? He's always been like this.

Damien 21-08-2024 10:55
Re: US Election 2024
 
The mood around the Democrats has completely changed. They haven't been his energised since Obama, and Harris isn't that calibre of candidate but the relief of not having Biden and the prospect of having a chance has transformed them.

Look at this from their Democratic Roll Call which they did via a montage of music from each state including this:

Mr K 21-08-2024 11:36
Re: US Election 2024
 
The US is all image and no substance, whichever party. Personality, showbiz patizanship over policy and reality. Sums the crappy country up.

1andrew1 21-08-2024 19:17
Re: US Election 2024
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36181708)
The mood around the Democrats has completely changed. They haven't been his energised since Obama, and Harris isn't that calibre of candidate but the relief of not having Biden and the prospect of having a chance has transformed them.

Look at this from their Democratic Roll Call which they did via a montage of music from each state including this:
By contrast, Andrew Neil reported from the Republican Camp
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Trump currently live from Howell, Michigan. Rambling, tired, dispirited, low energy drivel, no theme, no purpose, no point, no sign he has a clue how to reboot his campaign.
https://x.com/afneil/status/1825976199568355713

Mr K 21-08-2024 19:40
Re: US Election 2024
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36181729)
By contrast, Andrew Neil reported from the Republican Camp

https://x.com/afneil/status/1825976199568355713
Andrew Neil is a well known communist ( and former GB News presenter). Fake news. ;)

Stephen 21-08-2024 20:22
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36181508)
Your TDS is truly affecting your cognitive abilities……..

OK, I’ll do it your way.




Still works, still funny.
It doesn't work and it's not funny as it wasn't said as a joke. Trump repeated that claim on more than one instance, even when questioned on what he said by a reporter. He just doubled down on it.

Pierre 21-08-2024 20:36
Re: US Election 2024
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36181712)
The US is all image and no substance, whichever party. Personality, showbiz patizanship over policy and reality. Sums the crappy country up.
Can’t argue with that.

---------- Post added at 20:36 ---------- Previous post was at 20:32 ----------

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36181735)
It doesn't work and it's not funny as it wasn't said as a joke. Trump repeated that claim on more than one instance, even when questioned on what he said by a reporter. He just doubled down on it.
Yes it does, yes it is, yes it was.

Happy to review the transcripts from the other instances you cite, if you have them.

jfman 21-08-2024 20:40
Re: US Election 2024
 
The Guardian, usually useful until it tells you the stories you (people in general; not Pierre) don’t want to hear, is reporting RFK Jr withdraws by the end of the week.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...mp-latest-news

Hugh 21-08-2024 20:52
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36181736)
Can’t argue with that.

---------- Post added at 20:36 ---------- Previous post was at 20:32 ----------



Yes it does, yes it is, yes it was.

Happy to review the transcripts from the other instances you cite, if you have them.
https://www.militarytimes.com/vetera...ltimate-honor/

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During an interview with WBRE in Pennsylvania days later, Trump said his “better” comment was misconstrued.

“When I say better, I would rather, in a certain way, get it, because people, they get the congressional Medal of Honor, which I’ve given to many, are often horribly wounded or dead,” he said “They’re often dead. They get it posthumously.

“And when you get the [military] medal, I always consider that to be the ultimate, but it is a painful thing to get it. When you get the Presidential Medal of Freedom, it’s usually for other things, like you’ve achieved great success in sports, or you’ve achieved great success someplace else.”


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