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Mick 29-09-2022 16:18
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King Charles was said to have been there, so there would not have been any removal of the Standard, nor would it have been at half-mast, for the reason I’ve explained, the standard represents the current monarch, this immediately moved to Charles, upon the death of the Queen.

GrimUpNorth 29-09-2022 19:39
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36135388)
King Charles was said to have been there, so there would not have been any removal of the Standard, nor would it have been at half-mast, for the reason I’ve explained, the standard represents the current monarch, this immediately moved to Charles, upon the death of the Queen.
A bit morbid, but does this mean William will have a Standard stashed away somewhere and would it travel with him at all times? You know just in case.

Chris 29-09-2022 19:59
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King Charles was said to have been there, so there would not have been any removal of the Standard, nor would it have been at half-mast, for the reason I’ve explained, the standard represents the current monarch, this immediately moved to Charles, upon the death of the Queen.
The Standard indeed always flies when the monarch is in residence, which is why this was a curious thing when the BBC zoomed in on the flagpole just after 3pm that afternoon:

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1664477934

The pre-union royal standard of Scotland is only flown at Balmoral and Holyrood when the monarch is not in residence.

Chris 29-09-2022 20:00
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That was Chris. Nerd.
:bsmack:

Mick 29-09-2022 20:30
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36135437)
The Standard indeed always flies when the monarch is in residence, which is why this was a curious thing when the BBC zoomed in on the flagpole just after 3pm that afternoon:

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1664477934

The pre-union royal standard of Scotland is only flown at Balmoral and Holyrood when the monarch is not in residence.
It’s possible Charles may not have been there, they did say, Anne was there. However, we do know that Prince William, Prince Andrew, Prince Edward and his wife, Sophie all arrived well after 3:10PM, thus, didn’t get there in time to say their goodbyes.

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A bit morbid, but does this mean William will have a Standard stashed away somewhere and would it travel with him at all times? You know just in case.
It’s possible he will be there, as and when King Charles starts drawing his last breath. If not, if he’s in any of the palaces, they will always have a Royal Standard to hand.

Chris 29-09-2022 21:53
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36135441)
It’s possible Charles may not have been there, they did say, Anne was there. However, we do know that Prince William, Prince Andrew, Prince Edward and his wife, Sophie all arrived well after 3:10PM, thus, didn’t get there in time to say their goodbyes.

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It’s possible he will be there, as and when King Charles starts drawing his last breath. If not, if he’s in any of the palaces, they will always have a Royal Standard to hand.
I think it’s possible that the issue was that the monarch’s presence at a house isn’t what leads to the standard being flown - it’s residence. Charles was with the Queen but he wasn’t staying at Balmoral, he was staying at Birkhall, elsewhere on the estate.

Strict protocol would require the standard to be lowered at Balmoral until Charles instructed that he would be staying (in residence) there.

Mick 30-09-2022 02:06
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36135447)
I think it’s possible that the issue was that the monarch’s presence at a house isn’t what leads to the standard being flown - it’s residence. Charles was with the Queen but he wasn’t staying at Balmoral, he was staying at Birkhall, elsewhere on the estate.

Strict protocol would require the standard to be lowered at Balmoral until Charles instructed that he would be staying (in residence) there.
Royal Standard is never flown at half-mast, even at the death of the serving sovereign, succession being immediate, there is always a monarch, so it flies at full mast only and it does fly even when the Monarch is only visiting a palace.

Errors do happen. It once flew at half-mast when King Edward VII died, until King George V spotted the error.

Mick 30-09-2022 05:45
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New Coins depicting King Charles III, note with Royal Tradition, Kings head is facing opposite way to how Queen Elizabeth II’s head faces, on current coins.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1664512737

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1664512952

Image sourced from Sky News. The King’s head will start to appear on 50p’s first, the £5 coin is Commemorative.

ianch99 30-09-2022 19:39
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I am no Monarchist, but I respect those that are. However, I was watching the coverage of the funeral service and came across this individual laughing his head off:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1573240028788330497

I would have expected a public apology at the very least. This is so disrespectful.

daveeb 30-09-2022 20:38
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36135557)
I am no Monarchist, but I respect those that are. However, I was watching the coverage of the funeral service and came across this individual laughing his head off:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1573240028788330497

I would have expected a public apology at the very least. This is so disrespectful.
Sitting on his own as well, must have been a joke he remembered or maybe he was just looking at the character in the row in front of him. Either way a terrible look at such a high profile public event.

1andrew1 01-10-2022 08:38
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36135557)
I am no Monarchist, but I respect those that are. However, I was watching the coverage of the funeral service and came across this individual laughing his head off:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1573240028788330497

I would have expected a public apology at the very least. This is so disrespectful.
It was just bizarre. Genuinely wonder if he's ok. You don't need to be a monarchist to find this behaviour inappropriate for a funeral.

Damien 01-10-2022 08:45
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Just seems like a nervous tick to me or a brief bit of awkwardness. Nothing to write home about. I think the press could have lost it's mind if it were a Labour or SNP politician though.

nashville 01-10-2022 15:46
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Sad day for Britain and the Common wealth. She was loved all over the world.

telegramsam 02-10-2022 15:20
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Yes a great and fabulous Queen,a hard act to follow

nashville 04-10-2022 17:21
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Sad news indeed .She held everything together , R I P Ma am /


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