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Sorry, will have to disagree with you

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The worrying thing about that stat is that China, India and other such quickly developing nations still have a vast % of their populations still in remote rural areas that are still very poor and not yet accessing the benefits of their nations development.

That will change, as these countries continue to lift their populations out of poverty and a like, the populations will then want access to electricity, cars, and all the trappings of modern civilisation ( and they deserve it) but the demand for power ( still best and cheapest provided by fossil fuels) will continue to increase.

So as China’s and India’s massive populations start to suckle on power more widely expect those figures to change.

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Agreed.However….. they doesn’t mean to say we can’t be targeting highest polluters per capita now…

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The first change we will notice as people come out of poverty is the demand for meat will increase, with the subsequent impact that'll have on the planet.

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Ironically, despite what I have posted above. The best thing to do for the environment / Climate is to lift people out of poverty. We may take a hit in the short term ( 50-100 years) but when people aren’t worried about how they’re going to feed their family tomorrow, they can then turn their attention to other matters such as the environment and climate.

That’s why it’s very rich for modern Western civilisations to preach and dictate to developing nations about their use of fossil fuels, as we’ve already benefited from them to the point we can start to move away from them, developing nations don’t have that luxury yet.

The stark reality is that fossil fuels will be around for the next 100 yrs minimum and beyond.

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Cancer, heart disease, BSE, as well as climate change ....

Have a nice Nut Roast - save the planet and yourself. Merry Christmas :)

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There’s meat ….and there’s meat. Just like there’s calories and there’s calories and there’s fat and there’s fat.

It’s important to know the distinctions.

My own personal philosophy is….if you can’t buy it in a greengrocers or butchers then don’t eat it. ( there’s a few exceptions such as natural yogurt etc, but you get the point)

Anything that you have to pierce the lid and/ microwave is your enemy.

Nothing wrong with meat, humans have been eating meat before they started walking upright. They haven’t been eating meat recovered and processed in factories though except for around the last 50 years.

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You need a chat with Greta, she'll set you straight, we deforest large areas to make room for grazing animals...

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There's taking people out of poverty like in Africa where the focus is on things like water and crops and poverty in Asia where people are leaving agriculture for the city's factories where the jobs are so horrible suicide is often more preferable than returning to work after lunch

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Pretty much every field in the UK was once a forest wasn't it?

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yes

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True, but there’s very little equivalence between rapid deforestation in the tropics and incremental deforestation in temperate latitudes. For a start the land area we’re talking about here is much smaller than what’s being lost in Brazil year on year, and has been deforested over a much longer period of time (there’s evidence of forest clearance in Great Britain going back thousands of years). And in terms of the carbon cycle, the tropical rainforests lock up a lot more of it than vegetation growth at high latitudes is capable of doing.

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And of course, extensive de-forestation of the Amazon (and other areas) will have no negative effect on the U.K…

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