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New title..... The rapist formerly known as Prince

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:erm: there's hope he's still 8th in line for the throne :nutter:

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Not for long - he’s being written out of the line of succession. Princess Anne moves up one.

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Edit … el gov now saying they’re not removing him. I’m guessing this might be because they need the same line of succession everywhere the king is still the king, necessitating acts of parliament in 15 countries.

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Point taken,

Apologies.

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Its not like it really makes any practical difference.

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It practically gives him a hard on. Heaven knows where he'd be without some sort of recognition.

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I mean no, it’s not as if they’ve ever used a Dutch Duke to chase the reigning monarch out of the country and declare him abdicated in absentia is it. Or drag a king to the tower and hack his bonce off.

Thankfully Parliament has more recently chosen to pass legislation in order to ensure the heir is determined by law rather than by pure birthright. Three times, most recently in 2013.

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Yes indeed, Parliament, effectively the Commons, is legally ‘supreme’. The next monarch is one that Parliament decides will be. Naturally it will be William because they have no reason to deny it?

Removing Andrew from the line of succession does require an Act of Parliament, but as he is, what, 8th in line, it doesn’t really seem necessary. Of course is things were to change due to some really unlikely catastrophic issue then I suspect that Parliament would act so fast it will make his head spin!

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So I have not really kept up with this so please excuse me if I am missing something here.

First part:

I fail to understand why he is being labelled as a Pedo/Rapist etc, that is Andrew when from what I can see no seems to be able to prove he did anything?

The commentary on TV etc never mentions any police reports, DNA, the only thing that seems to be mentioned is "Her Words" and a "Photo" that they say people cannot confirm if it's legit or fake??

If that is all there is, then this is another case of a Man being found guilty of something just because a women says so and it's wrong, annoying and quite frankly sickening that again another man has his life ruined because of an allegation.


Second Part (Probably more important):
There is though the other side of it, that there are reports he paid her off after the first time she accused him and made her sign an NDA?

If that is the case, that makes him look real guilty to me because, I am sorry but no man knowing it will basically end his career, reputation etc sign an NDA and payoff a false accuser, so that makes me think there was something that happened??


The mainstream media and anti-royals seem to be saying that "Because he was friends with epstein he is guilty" but if that is the case, why are they not saying the same for everyone that was friends with him, why is it only Andrew?



Am I missing something here, is there more to this than what is being shown on the news etc or is it something that we will probably never know fully what was going on?

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The man has never been charged with an offence or been near a court of law

people seem to be taking this book as the new gospel according to saint virginia, and as far as i can see this story is now about charlie windsor preserving his opulent lifestyle

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He went to the island, his explanations were not at all convincing, and that photo does appear to be real.

It's not enough for a court of law, but people are going to have their own opinions.

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especially so on social media

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"I fail to understand why he is being labelled as a Pedo/Rapist etc, that is Andrew when from what I can see no seems to be able to prove he did anything?”

And that’s fine, at worse, absolutely worse, Andrew slept with a girl who was 17 at the time. Now let’s assume that is true - he denies it, but she was over 16 so the ‘pedo’ label is obviously wrong, ‘rapist’, well you would need to show that he knew that the girl was being coerced into doing it, and it was ‘against her will’. If you can't show that, then ‘rapist’ is inappropriate.

""Her Words" and a "Photo" that they say people cannot confirm if it's legit or fake??”

No the photo does seem genuine, so we can conclude that Andrew did meet and knew Guthrie. What else happened is speculation. But any claim that ‘he had never met her’, is palpably wrong.

But it’s the lying, there is simply too much evidence that Andrew kept up some kind of relationship with Epstein even when it became obvious of the type of person he was, but this was denied.

It’s the steady trickle of revelations, things denied and then shown to be likely to be true, that eventually build up and lead to what happened to him. Now I’ve never met the man, he could well be the nicest and most naive person in the world. Or he’s a self-absorbed narcissist who regards himself as better than anyone else and is simply deserving of respect, because!

OK his actions in 1982, yes he did put himself in a position of danger, and could have cried off, so some credit there, but then again did everyone else who was serving at the time.

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