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Damien 20-03-2019 22:17
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The Times Political Editor thinks the reaction to her speech has pretty much killed what chance the deal has left: https://twitter.com/hzeffman/status/1108487563948507136

jfman 20-03-2019 22:34
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How long before some idiot (Johnson?) suggests she spend two of the three month extension period going back to Brussels for a better deal and that they’ll fold if we test their resolve?

Mick 21-03-2019 01:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35987873)
The people who vote against the deal are responsible, but so will she be. And so will the rest of the government.
No they are not responsible, how many times do I have to say this?

Her deal is NOT Brexit, it's an absolutely crap deal, so quite rightly they keep on rejecting it and a good potion of the rejections are from Remainer MPs, they are and never will be to blame for opposing a shoddy deal.

pip08456 21-03-2019 01:34
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35987889)
No they are not responsible, how many times do I have to say this?

Her deal is NOT Brexit, it's an absolutely crap deal, so quite rightly they keep on rejecting it and a good potion of the rejections are from Remainer MPs, they are and never will be to blame for opposing a shoddy deal.
No deal is better than a bad deal.

Damien 21-03-2019 07:02
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35987889)
No they are not responsible, how many times do I have to say this?.
As many as you like, it’s just I disagree

Pierre 21-03-2019 07:08
Re: Brexit (New).
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35987889)
No they are not responsible, how many times do I have to say this?

Her deal is NOT Brexit, it's an absolutely crap deal, so quite rightly they keep on rejecting it and a good potion of the rejections are from Remainer MPs, they are and never will be to blame for opposing a shoddy deal.
It’s an interpretation of Brexit, one of only two on the table, and one I can live with just to move the whole sorry show onto the next phase.

However, if parliament still refuse to back it, god knows what’ll happen.

Angua 21-03-2019 07:29
Re: Brexit (New).
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35987851)
It was a good speech and i think the public will agree with what she said,watching these idiots squabble is pathetic and it's grinding people down.
Since her speech This petition has grown by over 350,000 signatures. It was only started a month ago.

Sephiroth 21-03-2019 07:34
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35987520)
Redwood thinks the Speaker made the right decision
My MP was entirely correct. He also pointed out that Parliament voted for a referendum, it held a referendum and then legislated for the outcome of that referendum by a huge majority.

The parliamentary shenanigans now going on are as perfidious as Varadkar and Macron.

Chris 21-03-2019 07:45
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Originally Posted by Angua (Post 35987895)
Since her speech This petition has grown by over 350,000 signatures. It was only started a month ago.
It won’t be considered for debate for 6 months, so ...

jfman 21-03-2019 07:46
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35987893)
It’s an interpretation of Brexit, one of only two on the table, and one I can live with just to move the whole sorry show onto the next phase.

However, if parliament still refuse to back it, god knows what’ll happen.
This is actually quite a good stance. While nobody voted for the May deal it’s a reasonable compromise nobody is truly happy with but it’s not remaining and not leaving on WTO terms. It moves things forwards and reduces uncertainty.

Sephiroth 21-03-2019 07:49
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The debate in this forum entirely represents the spectrum in Parliament. And that flies in the face of the Referendum result - as if the people's vote didn't matter.#

A shocking state of affairs - never mind the Varadkar tail wagging the May dog.

Mick 21-03-2019 08:11
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Originally Posted by Angua (Post 35987895)
Since her speech This petition has grown by over 350,000 signatures. It was only started a month ago.
And I remember a petition the day after June 23rd, 2016, to stop Brexit, that one reached 4 million, it was rightfully ignored.

And there is going to be a completely pointless, Million march Sat in the London bubble yet agai, yawn, to oppose Brexit. When will people learn, marches don’t work. NHS, Miners strike, Iraq war, they don’t work?!?!?!

ianch99 21-03-2019 08:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Angua (Post 35987895)
Since her speech This petition has grown by over 350,000 signatures. It was only started a month ago.
Over 1/2 a million now ..

jfman 21-03-2019 08:18
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35987900)
The debate in this forum entirely represents the spectrum in Parliament. And that flies in the face of the Referendum result - as if the people's vote didn't matter.#

A shocking state of affairs - never mind the Varadkar tail wagging the May dog.
It’s not my fault, or that of anyone who voted remain, that Cameron’s arrogance in not believing he would lose has left no clear Brexit option.

There should have been a second question or referendum the week after to clarify which is the preferred model.

1andrew1 21-03-2019 08:24
Re: Brexit (New).
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35987889)
No they are not responsible, how many times do I have to say this?

Her deal is NOT Brexit, it's an absolutely crap deal, so quite rightly they keep on rejecting it and a good potion of the rejections are from Remainer MPs, they are and never will be to blame for opposing a shoddy deal.
This is nor Brexit, it's the Withdrawal Agreement now. Leavers should save their energy for the trade agreement not the warm up gig


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