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To be honest unless we work for the intelligence services we don't really know what they have for evidence. They certainly wont release that information anytime soon to the public and the papers just report any old crap they hear just to get a story you can never take what they say as gospel

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Latest: Russian Foreign Ministry Official says Britain May have Orchestrated the Nerve Agent Attack in Salisbury.

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Inspectors from the Organisation For the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons have arrived at the Mill Pub in Salisbury while Russia increases it's war of words slamming Britain's 'Island Mentality' that is suffering from 'Russiaphobia'.

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President of the European Council Donald Tusk says after Salisbury poison attack, he’s in no mood to congratulate Russia’s President Putin’s Re-Election.

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Good for him. Juncker and Trump need to stand up to Putin and stop out-competing each other to creep to the school bully!

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But Trump's already congratulated Putin even when told not to.

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Agreed. They should both up their games. Not sure Boris's approach is working though, bringing Hitler into the occasion is a tad extreme and will unite Russians behind Putin.

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When it's on his scale it's hard to see beyond anything else, with good reason.

Very poor analogy to have used imo and can only impact our cause negatively on a number of levels

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I'm sure if I used a Hitler analogy in a meeting at work I'd be in big trouble, possibly even sacked.

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Indeed there is no comparison between the two as although what Russia has done is reprehensible and indefensible it bears absolutely no comparison on what Adolf Hitler was guilty of.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler

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Putin hasn't finished ruling Russia just yet - plenty of time to match that score. Hopefully, the media spotlight, sanctions and some ingenious politics will keep him more contained than Stalin was.

It's too early to judge Putin on just how murderous he might be. Just wait until he gets old and grumpy. :erm:

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It's important to understand what is happening within Russia state media daily puts out ridiculous stories of the west acting aggressively towards Russia and actively working to bring Russia down. History is being sanitised the gulags being a prime example and gulag type camps being promoted as a solution to the problems within Russia which basically includes anyone that doesn't support Putin. Putin is working very hard in creating a bunker mentality on a national scale and whipping up hatred of the west and there is no longer any media to question or contradict the state media. The increase in accidents and trumped up charges against political opponents is extremely worryingly and wider closing down of freedoms of the Russian people is also a cause of concern.

As of now the majority of Russians are not buying into it but under a constant barrage of propaganda and the increasing fear of questioning Putin it's not hard to see how many will eventually buckle under the pressure. We in the west need to make better efforts at putting our side of the story out there and truthfully report events involving Russia that is never told within Russia and we definately have to up our game on social media as right now the Russians are running rings round the west.

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Agreed. The Second World War had a cataclysmic effect on the Soviet Union. Estimates vary but most are agreed that over 20,000,000 died during WWII or in other words, over 13% of the population. The collective folk memory of WWII is still very raw in Russia. In contrast, the UK lost just over 450,000 people or less than 1%.

To compare any Russian to Hitler is either deeply provocative or ignorant of history. Either way, the anger will be very strong

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As is our anger regarding the attempted murder of two of our citizens.

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Boris needs to learn to think before he opens that trap of his rather then prove the old adage of keeping silent and let people think your an idiot rather then talking and confirm it, how much longer May is going to let the buffoon carry on in a job he is clearly not suited for is anyone's guess shame the royal court did away with jesters boris would be perfect for that.

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Nicely put. :)