re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Indeed. Capped to 79,999kbps down, 19,999kbps up at DSL layer.

Due to loss of performance over distance alongside interference from other lines most customers are unable to hit those numbers sadly.

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Haha! No idea, but STM is for now quite important to keep the usage of those who simply must seed about 30 torrents at a time under some kind of control.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Correct it is capped and could offer more if the cap were removed.

It's worth remembering that Virgin have the upper hand anyway as distance from the cabinet doesn't matter too much to their customers.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Until it gets STM'd, or you're doing something that VM's traffic shaping doesn't like ;)

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30? I'm seeding closer to 1000.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

I almost never hit upload STM, so I'm ok with this.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

I left VM back when there wasn't any STM on the top tier.

Still. VM's network is better for heavy downloaders, Openreach's network is better for heavy uploaders. No change there then.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Indeed and I think part of the reason that has happened is because, historically, uploading has never been a big deal to most people. The vast majority of people mainly download and don't upload a lot. That has all changed in the last few years, first with the rise of youtube and now with the advent of things like twitch, it's becoming more of a necessity and it would seem that Virgin has taken notice. Hopefully 10:1 is back on the RADAR, even if we don't see it for a few years.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Even if not, 300/20 is fairly close, and way better than the 50/1.5 I used to have a few years back.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Indeed, I believe that original switch to 10:1 was a direct response to the changing landscape of internet usage. Sadly, the current ratios probably fall under the "Good enough" category but one can hope that improvements will come. Perhaps DOCSIS 3.1 will make a big leap with it's apparent 25% efficiency gain on the upstream side.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

I expect BT could do 25mbit/sec upload with 10% of people hitting that speed quite easily now, they seem to have left more buffer on the upstream than downstream in terms of sync speed. But I guess also VM could push for that speed as well on their rollout albeit with the risks of congestion.

BT are now banking on their boring g.fast which I think will be quite a slow rollout for those not near a cabinet.

Personally I would rather see 100/100 then say 300/20 or 300/30 and also of course for me good 24/7 performance with no visible contention is better than say blinding speeds at 4am but a fight with the mob for bandwidth at 9pm.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

It's something like a 3:2 divide in bandwidth.

Maybe, maybe not. Those that are near a cabinet are going to see the least benefit so I don't see why they'd be prioritised.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Easiest install of new G.fast kit. Either in existing cabinet or build a new, smaller one next to it and re-use the current cabinet's power and fibre ducts.

Bit more asymmetrical than that.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/09/36.png

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Fine, 5:2 then.


BUT: If you consider half the D1 band is crippled and the top frequencies (i.e. D3) are the first to go on longer lines, then... Ah screw it. You're right. Again. :sulk:

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

5:2 is actually about right - people seem to start losing upstream when their downstream drops below ~60Mb so it seems to be around a 3:1 ratio.

Looking at the stats I have recorded across my lines past and present:

Max:
Upstream rate = 21396 Kbps,
Downstream rate = 71320 Kbps

Max:
Upstream rate = 22764 Kbps
Downstream rate = 74204 Kbps

Currently:

Max:
Upstream rate = 21268 Kbps
Downstream rate = 63800 Kbps

As you mentioned, the upstream is clinging on while the downstream is tailing off as the crosstalk increases.

EDIT:

When I was the only connection live on the FTTC cabinet, the stats were:

Max:
Upstream rate = 29421 Kbps
Downstream rate = 98020 Kbps

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

My experience with DSL has always been the same, upstream seems fairly resilient while downstream tails off quickly.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

I'm on 152mb now. I barely get 20MB in peak as I have high utilisation issues. This has been ongoing for 2 years

Cant virgin media attempt to solve these issues around the country before doing stuff like this? as the person on the first page said...its willy waving. nothing more. lets brag on adverts we have all the sport and fastest broadband.

I think my old dongle is faster sometimes