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qasdfdsaq 06-08-2015 13:11

Re: Virgin Business Superhub now has Modem Mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by APS (Post 35792244)
Probably not if their router is automatically setting up a tunnel into their own network as the modem will then be accessible via the tunnel as a local device.


One frustration for those of us who need the fixed IPs is that VM have not released and do not support/allow us to set the SH in modem mode and let our own routers negotiate the L2TP tunnel to their server, thus taking the flakely firmware out of the equation!

Indeed, which is why I've suggested a few times people can buy the service separately (i.e. like Seph has done) or set up their own tunnel, thus giving themselves complete control and bypassing VM's shoddy fixed-IP infrastructure completely.

Ignitionnet 06-08-2015 14:42

Re: Virgin Business Superhub now has Modem Mode
 
I still genuinely have no idea why they aren't just doing it via PPPoE with L2TP from CMTS functioning as a LAC to LNS. Seems nuts to have L2TP tunnels for each and every business client with no intermediate concentrator and the issues are clearly demonstrated here.

Presumably there's some caveat with the CMTS operating systems that prevent it, as I cannot think of any other reason. Certainly the one time such services were run on the legacy DOCSIS 1.0 platform it was via this method.

Sephiroth 06-08-2015 18:10

Re: Virgin Business Superhub now has Modem Mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by APS (Post 35792244)
Probably not if their router is automatically setting up a tunnel into their own network as the modem will then be accessible via the tunnel as a local device.

One frustration for those of us who need the fixed IPs is that VM have not released and do not support/allow us to set the SH in modem mode and let our own routers negotiate the L2TP tunnel to their server, thus taking the flakely firmware out of the equation!

So what happens if for any reason the IP address issued by DHCP to the modem changes as can happen? The tunnel has been disrupted and cannot be re-established because the IP address has changed.

Or what have I misunderstood? Remember, I'm seeking guidance as to whether I should be telling our ISP to put the SH back into router mode.

ccarmock 06-08-2015 22:20

Re: Virgin Business Superhub now has Modem Mode
 
is there any news if the PPP issue causing poor performance at higher speeds with the network side equipment has been resolved?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35792300)
So what happens if for any reason the IP address issued by DHCP to the modem changes as can happen? The tunnel has been disrupted and cannot be re-established because the IP address has changed.

Or what have I misunderstood? Remember, I'm seeking guidance as to whether I should be telling our ISP to put the SH back into router mode.

The DHCP address of the device appears to be of the older form of 'sticky' IP addresses with reverse DNS entries of the form of static.virginmedia.net

However if that address does change once the tunnel is re-established, which it seems to do just fine if disrupted then the same fixed IP address(s) will be provided to the Superhub A change of the superhubs DHCP assigned address won't prevent the tunnel being re-established.

qasdfdsaq 07-08-2015 03:00

Re: Virgin Business Superhub now has Modem Mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35792300)
So what happens if for any reason the IP address issued by DHCP to the modem changes as can happen? The tunnel has been disrupted and cannot be re-established because the IP address has changed.

Why on earth would you think that?

The whole point of a tunnel is so it can be established from any IP address.

pcfarrar 24-09-2015 12:23

Re: Virgin Business Superhub now has Modem Mode
 
Still getting Superhub crashes on one of our 50MB lines, really thought they would have fixed this by now...

ccarmock 24-09-2015 21:15

Re: Virgin Business Superhub now has Modem Mode
 
do you have a FIXED IP subnet service? I hear there is beta firmware but only if you have single fixed IP or dynamic

APS 25-09-2015 06:59

Re: Virgin Business Superhub now has Modem Mode
 
Still getting the same problem here with the multiple IP option. We loose the connection 1-2 times per week and have to reboot.

pcfarrar 25-09-2015 08:08

Re: Virgin Business Superhub now has Modem Mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ccarmock (Post 35800113)
do you have a FIXED IP subnet service? I hear there is beta firmware but only if you have single fixed IP or dynamic

The one I have that crashes is a single fixed IP. I guess its not easy to get the beta firmware installed by Virgin?
This problem has been going on for nearly a year now for me....

ccarmock 25-09-2015 21:21

Re: Virgin Business Superhub now has Modem Mode
 
From what I gather this is the situation that they have a beta version of the business firmware for. I'll drop you a PM with my contact there that you could ask

pcfarrar 29-09-2015 09:06

Re: Virgin Business Superhub now has Modem Mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ccarmock (Post 35800252)
From what I gather this is the situation that they have a beta version of the business firmware for. I'll drop you a PM with my contact there that you could ask

Thanks got the contact details but no reply from Carl so far...

ccarmock 29-09-2015 14:54

Re: Virgin Business Superhub now has Modem Mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pcfarrar (Post 35800761)
Thanks got the contact details but no reply from Carl so far...


They are not communicating well over this. As an alternative suggest log a support call asking for the beta firmware.

The business service is being left behind again.

Fedu2015 29-09-2015 19:02

Re: Virgin Business Superhub now has Modem Mode
 
Any news on when the firmware for the multiple fixed IP option or a beta will be available?

ccarmock 29-09-2015 21:41

Re: Virgin Business Superhub now has Modem Mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fedu2015 (Post 35800900)
Any news on when the firmware for the multiple fixed IP option or a beta will be available?


I am waiting for that too. I contacted VM B sales about it yesterday and was told - information isn't easy to come by. They don't have a date yet, but to try again in a couple of weeks.

A while back November was hinted.

I have also heard that we're unlikely to see new firmware for the SH2AC to support this, and there could be a totally new device (maybe the same one that is being trialled for residential customers)

I have offered several times to be a beta tester but all my contact at VMB have gone into radio silence, not even replying to emails now.

If November is a possible date (and I am doubtful) it will then be a year since the 152 Mb/s service was offered by VMB without a fixed IP offering.


Does anyone here have any info on this?

InsaneNutter 30-09-2015 07:31

Re: Virgin Business Superhub now has Modem Mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ccarmock (Post 35800969)
If November is a possible date (and I am doubtful) it will then be a year since the 152 Mb/s service was offered by VMB without a fixed IP offering

I'm still pretty shocked the 50 Mb/s issues with multiple IP's are still present almost a year later!

I certainly made the correct decision going to 152 Mb/s without a static IP, thankfully despite not been a static IP our IP address hasn't actually changed since we got it in November last year.

I know not everyone could do that, however for remote web access / remote desktop its worked well enough for us.

Very shocked to hear this is still ongoing...

I was promised a static IP on 152 Mb/s last December, then January, then April. I have since given up asking.


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