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Gary L 29-02-2012 22:38

Re: Sainsbury's pull out of 'Work for your benefits scheme'
 
Aren't Barnados doing mandatory unpaid work placements on the Work Programme?

Chrysalis 03-03-2012 22:23

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35390401)
Chris Grayling is put on the spot by Channel 4 news with a letter that claimants are sent stating if they don't turn up or fail to start, their money may be stopped.
he suggests it's a letter for some other kind of scheme. but is told that it's a letter that has been confirmed by DWP to be the standard letter they send out.
he just keeps repeating it's a voluntary scheme, it's a voluntary scheme.. and probably said fiddlesticks at the end :)

http://www.channel4.com/news/catch-u...BENEFITSINT_28

Truly shocking. His arrogance carried on with hard evidence been said to him.

chris9991 20-03-2012 13:45

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...pulsory-unpaid

Talk about changes

martyh 20-03-2012 14:07

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The jobseeker believes his placement on the mandatory programme was linked to his attitude towards his adviser.
Says it all really .As if an adviser is going to care one way or the other if someone goes on a scheme .Maybe if the claimant had a better attitude or wasn't so paranoid then he may get a job

Chrysalis 20-03-2012 16:19

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Age discrimination at its finest. Its illegal yet the DWP does it on a large scale.

martyh have I forgotten something or is there less jobs than unemployed. Also job availability is variable across regions.

I cant stand comments like "just get a job". As if its simple to do.

martyh 20-03-2012 16:26

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35402752)
Age discrimination at its finest. Its illegal yet the DWP does it on a large scale.

.

what age discrimination ?

Quote:

martyh have I forgotten something or is there less jobs than unemployed. Also job availability is variable across regions.

I cant stand comments like "just get a job". As if its simple to do.
good job no body said that then isn't it :rolleyes:

Chrysalis 20-03-2012 17:55

Re: Sainsbury's pull out of 'Work for your benefits scheme'
 
read the article, it clearly mentions age.

martyh 20-03-2012 18:28

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35402835)
read the article, it clearly mentions age.

You think it's age discrimination because the schemes refered to apply to 18-24yr olds ?:confused::confused:

Maggy 20-03-2012 22:03

Re: Sainsbury's pull out of 'Work for your benefits scheme'
 
I truly cannot see how make work will actually incentivise anyone whatever damned scheme it is..Unless the end result is they get a job that they receive a decent wage for and it engages their interest.

And no there is nothing wrong in stacking shelves for short periods.If it is all you end up doing then it's not exactly going to engage you or interest you in working for a company in the long run.

martyh 20-03-2012 22:33

Re: Sainsbury's pull out of 'Work for your benefits scheme'
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35402978)
I truly cannot see how make work will actually incentivise anyone whatever damned scheme it is..Unless the end result is they get a job that they receive a decent wage for and it engages their interest.

And no there is nothing wrong in stacking shelves for short periods.If it is all you end up doing then it's not exactly going to engage you or interest you in working for a company in the long run.

I'm afraid that's a luxury only available to a few these days Maggie

Chrysalis 23-03-2012 19:01

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it gets worse.

Someone managed to get their own work experience in a field they have experience in, their job centre advisor told them to cancel that work experience and do one provided by the job centre instead or be sanctioned.

Also some over 35s (seems to be age discrimination affecting the older as well as younger) are not happy jobs are been kept for the young only by the job centre.

---------- Post added at 18:01 ---------- Previous post was at 17:58 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35402978)
I truly cannot see how make work will actually incentivise anyone whatever damned scheme it is..Unless the end result is they get a job that they receive a decent wage for and it engages their interest.

And no there is nothing wrong in stacking shelves for short periods.If it is all you end up doing then it's not exactly going to engage you or interest you in working for a company in the long run.

:clap:

if someone is shown what its like to d ajob thats enjoyable or at least offers a decent wage packet then they get to see the benefits. Work experience that does the opposite will just reinforce their belief's work sucks. (assuming its a workshy person doing the workfare).

The problem seems to be quite apparent that the job centre is treating everyone as workshy by default when they hit certian criteria.


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