Re: Students Rioting in London.
 

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Then it would appear that the police were correct in leaving the van because they were vulnerable because 15mins later the van was attacked ,don't know if sky are trying to cause trouble but they seem to have scored an own goal if that was their intention

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I think what they're trying to say is that there was no tension, or reason for the police to feel they had to abandon the van at the time they did.

12:48pm no tension. leave the van
13:00pm decision to contain thousands of protesters
13:05pm van smashed up.

I think they're saying the van was damaged due to it being left there, and the police doing a containment for no reason.

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Sorry, but if there are people out there who can't walk past a police vehicle without feeling a compulsive urge to smash it up, then they need arresting.

It has previously been stated that the containment was put in place due to intelligence that certain people in the crowd intended to attack Government targets. Keeping them out of Parliament Square was, IMO, a reasonable plan under the circumstances.

Whatever tension may have arisen as a result of that containment, it does not justify smashing up police vans.

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Agreed. there's no reason during a protest to break any laws. I don't think the same people would think twice about the rights and wrongs about smashing anyones vehicle.

you see in these kind of things people smashing things to pieces. and you get the feeling that because of what's happening they think they have every right to. even though they probably would never do it in other circumstances.

Re: Students Rioting in London.
 

mini riot on my street last night :)

I rang police at 4am about alarm going off for 40 mins, squad car came but then was about to drive off saying they wouldnt do anything then a load of my neighbours came out and we argued with the police for about 10 minutes, then they backed down and the fire brigade broke in to shut it off.

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And it's all kicking off. Again :rolleyes:

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Bunch went right by my office, heading up to St Pauls.

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looks like its having some effect

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11874406

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he'll look a right idiot if he does

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The Liberal Democrats are realising how they are about to lose one of their large constituencies. Not just students, who aren't all registered to vote, but the recently graduated as well.

Re: Students Rioting in London.
 

hows this work then i thought we had the same government
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-11878033

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English money probably -we do love to subsidise the other uk Nations .

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If you want to look at it that way, London subsidises the rest of England. ;)

For the purposes of budgetary control, the Welsh Assembly and the Scottish Executive are effectively just Government departments. They receive a grant just the same as Education or MoD does in London. The only difference is, these 'departments' are responsible for a range of services, not just one. So they have some freedom to decide how to divide up the money between the services they control.

Wales is not, however, getting more money in order to protect its students from fees. It is simply making university education a higher priority than something else. Once they spend the money on this, it won't be available for whatever else.

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that may be true but its also the place that gets most investment. so its a circle.