Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 34997857)

Yes and those lazy nurses should be doing even more of their share of the paperwork.

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 34997962)

If you fancy seeing how our opinion poll would translate into an actual general election result, have a play with this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politi...10/8609989.stm

Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 34997861)

And instead of attacking and insulting me, why don't you tell us all where these savings will come from?

Originally Posted by danielf (Post 34997980)

If that shows anything, it's how wrong the system is.

Con 33.7% 362 seats.
Lab 16.3% 178 seats.
Lib 20% 75 seats
Other 30% 35 seats.

Conservatives have 3 percentage points more of the popular vote than Other, and get 10 times the seats. Labour have 4 percentage points less than Lib Dem and over twice the number of seats. Smashing thing, Democracy... :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 34997857)

Yes and those lazy nurses should be doing even more of their share of the paperwork.

Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 34997857)

Yes and those lazy nurses should be doing even more of their share of the paperwork.

Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 34997861)

And instead of attacking and insulting me, why don't you tell us all where these savings will come from?

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34997833)

The Tories are coming out with hype again,

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34997982)

BBC

This is exactly what I have had to do in my department - I have had my budgets frozen for three years, but still have to plan for 3% Pay OpEx increases year on year (as the government is not giving me an extra 1% to cover the NI increase, and the unions will surely strike if they don't get the inflation increase); so I won't be filling vacancies, and I will be asking people to take time of in lieu instead of overtime, and stuff like that.

But I do not know why you ask the question about the savings, because I am sure you will follow the party rebuttal line of "myth" and "fantasy" as soon as any answer appears - it would appear you don't want an answer, you just want to spread fear, uncertainty and doubt (are you sure you never used to work in sales for IBM? ;) ).

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 34998034)

unwaranted below the belt attack :mad:



Having attacked the Nurses you then complain when someone does it to you. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 34998034)

unwaranted below the belt attack :mad:



Having attacked the Nurses you then complain when someone does it to you. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 34997844)

In other news what a complete and utter twunt Gordon Brown is. This story is astounding. Has it come to things like that to justify his authoritarianism? He is attacking the Tories for wanting to put a halt to the Government's illegal retention of DNA of those cleared of crimes.

Originally Posted by Liberty

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Today Liberty’s director responded to suggestions that the case of Sally Anne Bowman was only solved by holding the DNA of unconvicted individuals on the database. This could not be further from the truth
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Mark Dixie, convicted in 2008 for the murder of Sally Anne Bowman, was arrested nine months after the crime for his role in a pub brawl. It was this DNA swab that revealed his link to Sally Anne’s murder after it was uploaded to the national DNA database and matched with the unidentified crime scene DNA. Mark Dixie was then arrested, charged and prosecuted for Sally Anne’s rape and murder.
Shami Chakrabarti, Director of Liberty, said:

“Election fever seems to be confusing the debate about DNA retention. It has been suggested that the tragic case of Sally Anne Bowman was only solved because her murderer was “an innocent� on the database. In fact, he was arrested for a separate violent offence and it was then that his DNA was matched to the crime scene.

We all agree that DNA taken on arrest should be checked against unsolved crimes - this is entirely different from stockpiling the DNA of innocent men, women and children for years on end.�

(snip)

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 34997823)

Flyboy ... Fanboy, more like. Is there any danger of intelligent debate breaking out around here? Such as acknowledging another point made during the same programme, that nobody sitting in opposition can ever make guarantees about anything? Or are you determined to simply parrot whatever the Labour press office tells you to?

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 34997858)

Or we get rid of the unnecessary paperwork.

That you have nothing better to say to this than a glib comment speaks volumes.

Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 34997863)

And where has all this paperwork come from?

Either the paperwork fairies have been at work or the government of the last 13 years have an absolute obsession with figures which they use to spin, manipulate and outright lie to cover up just how completely useless they are.

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 34998035)

Arthur - you are another one who really need to consider what you are posting.

For instance - Labour's motto on Crime was:

"Tough on crime - tough on the causes of crime" That is a Labour Hype pure and simple.

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34998130)

I think that the "Right Honourable" Mr Brown should have a read of this :rolleyes:

http://www.liberty-human-rights.org....illusion.shtml

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 34998162)

People should be thinking about more than just the economy when deciding who to vote for. Just think about the further damage to the country that has been planned.