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martyh 31-03-2010 19:53
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 34991852)
Do you need to understand exactly why green vegetables are good for you before you can eat them? Of course not. It's good to eat them whether or not you know about vitamins. It's the same with the point I made above. Population control by hunt is a better means of ensuring the quality of the gene pool than population control by rifle. That's a fact, whether the farmers know or care about it or not.
i understand your point ,but that isn't what the farmers want they just want the fox dead ,not worried about the fox gene pool ,don't want healthy fit and intelligent foxes just dead ones

broadbandking 02-04-2010 16:25
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I just think its sick and if you want to watch some animal ripped a part then your sick in the head imho, I don't see the need for it, why are the chickens left somewhere the fox can get them.

Hugh 02-04-2010 16:26
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They're not - they are usually kept in a coop at night, and the fox digs under the wire to get to them.

martyh 02-04-2010 16:28
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Originally Posted by broadbandking (Post 34993229)
I just think its sick and if you want to watch some animal ripped a part then your sick in the head imho, I don't see the need for it, why are the chickens left somewhere the fox can get them.

thats what i keep asking how come a fox finds it so easy to get into a chicken pen ,no answer yet ,and as that seems to be the only justification for fox hunting i don't expect one

Peter_ 02-04-2010 16:28
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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34993232)
They're not - they are usually kept in a coop at night, and the fox digs under the wire to get to them.
If the fox is really unlucky he breaks into this ONE

martyh 02-04-2010 16:32
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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34993232)
They're not - they are usually kept in a coop at night, and the fox digs under the wire to get to them.

so that's how the little blighters get in is it ,intelligent humans out foxed by a fox :D

send the wire into the ground by 2 ft problem solved

TheDaddy 02-04-2010 16:37
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Originally Posted by broadbandking (Post 34993229)
I just think its sick and if you want to watch some animal ripped a part then your sick in the head imho, I don't see the need for it, why are the chickens left somewhere the fox can get them.
If you went on a hunt the chances of you seeing said animal 'ripped a part' are nil all but.

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 34991872)
i understand your point ,but that isn't what the farmers want they just want the fox dead ,not worried about the fox gene pool ,don't want healthy fit and intelligent foxes just dead ones
Not always, some times they just want the fox moved on and some times they are paid by the hunt for use of the land, nothing is ever straight forward.

martyh 02-04-2010 16:38
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34993249)
If you went on a hunt the chances of you seeing said animal 'ripped a part' are nil all but.
seems a bit pointless then ,if the hunters rarely catch a fox why do they want to bring it back

TheDaddy 02-04-2010 16:47
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 34993251)
seems a bit pointless then ,if the hunters rarely catch a fox why do they want to bring it back
Most hunts dont catch a fox your right but even when they do chances are you won't see the kill, it's only 2 members of the hunt actually see the kill as the rest have to stay well behind the hounds, you'd have to ask them but they seem quite keen on it being brought back.

papa smurf 02-04-2010 16:54
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i must say that since the ban its almost impossible to find a chicken in the shops, and can any one remember eggs ,the fox population must be dealing a devastating blow to poultry farms :rolleyes:

TheDaddy 02-04-2010 17:00
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34993265)
i must say that since the ban its almost impossible to find a chicken in the shops, and can any one remember eggs ,the fox population must be dealing a devastating blow to poultry farms :rolleyes:
Since the ban came in there has been a massive increase in the number of foxes killed, for instance on the first day of hunting after the ban came in more foxes were killed than during the entire previous years hunts, the rifle doesn't discriminate between the young and healthy and the old and lame.

Stuart 02-04-2010 17:14
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 34991872)
i understand your point ,but that isn't what the farmers want they just want the fox dead ,not worried about the fox gene pool ,don't want healthy fit and intelligent foxes just dead ones
Whether the farmers care if the fox is healthy, fit and intelligent is irrelevant. The fact is that those that are healthy, fit and intelligent are more likely to be able to avoid being captured.

Sirius 02-04-2010 17:14
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Originally Posted by broadbandking (Post 34993229)
I just think its sick and if you want to watch some animal ripped a part then your sick in the head imho, I don't see the need for it, why are the chickens left somewhere the fox can get them.
Barbaric just like the people that enjoy watching and taking part.

papa smurf 02-04-2010 17:20
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Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34993283)
Whether the farmers care if the fox is healthy, fit and intelligent is irrelevant. The fact is that those that are healthy, fit and intelligent are more likely to be able to avoid being captured.
by captured i assume you mean mauled to death . for the amusement of those watching .

TheDaddy 02-04-2010 17:25
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34993288)
by captured i assume you mean mauled to death . for the amusement of those watching .
I assume you didn't mean mauled, as the fox is killed by one hound, with one bite, on the back of the head or neck.


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