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What joke Gary.......that was real!!!!

I laughed too!:)

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but then there wouldnt be a fair choice would there

do you want to follow the god giving you and demonstrating his all powerfulness

or

follow the devil off into destruction

the choice as Christians see it from the bible is harder will you follow on a promise of a good life later a life now that has rules and obligations with no reward other than that you feel happy that you are doing good

or

follow the world and do as you feel you want to not worrying what others want etc


the original post seemed to me to be asking or stating that there would be no pain and suffering if god existed i posted my points on that back a few pages

as to proof i could go into great detail on prophecies we see as being fulfilled and even the state the world is now in today see ( mathew 24 )

but even these to some take faith to believe that the bible was written by god ( or by the direction of god to be more precise )

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So did I. In a nostalgic sort of way;)

First heard David Copperfield ( comic from 3 of a kind - not magician ) tell it over 30 years ago.

It's still a few years younger than most of my jokes though. :)

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The one about the 2 boats and an helicopter.
it didn't quote properly.

:nutter: :)

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And you seem to like sitting in his pocket...;)

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That is an atheists right Mischevious, they dont have to believe or offer up any evidence against.

It is possibly easier for them, as they do not have to speak up for what us believers see as Bible truth, when ones pesonal belief in God is challenged, or maybe a better word is, questioned.

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Somebody really did go to heaven and speak to God?

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Whos a nutter???

Name calling now are we??

Help, this Christian is being persecuted!! :D:angel:;)

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Far be it from me to get into a circular argument. I don't expect you to believe in the Bible. But I do, so I take it seriously when it tells me that plenty of people witnessed miracles and yet failed to believe in Jesus as a result. NB by 'believe in' I don't mean 'accept the existence of', I mean believe his teaching, trust him, follow him, etc.

I wouldn't attempt to persuade you with miracles because I don't believe it would make a difference to you. Even if a miraculous event caused you to concede the point that God might exist, or even go so far as to accept that he does exist, accepting that God exists doesn't get you anywhere. Unashamed Bible quotation: "You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder."

God isn't looking for people to concede an intellectual point. He's looking for people who will get into relationship with him, trust him, obey him and worship him.

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Nope sorry you're wrong there, I have my own thoughts on things.

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Don't say that. you'll get me arrested :)

Who's nicked the devil smilie from the list?

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Forum posts are never going to be a way to get people to understand about if God exists or not.

They get people who want to think about it more deeply, thinking more deeply!

Others will just think, what a load of typists going over board with their thoughts on religion.

I would repeat, if any one really wants to know more, do it by personally looking into it all, and check things out for yourself.

Or just wait till I knock on your door!!!!

:);)

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It's all about belief.

They would have to be new miracles. not the ones from the Bible.

He has them kind of people now.

---------- Post added at 23:55 ---------- Previous post was at 23:54 ----------

I need converting :D

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You're absolutely right. And you can't borrow someone else's belief. Everyone who has a relationship with God has their own, personal to them. But belief and faith are not blind or unproven. If I choose to take a ride on a zip wire, it's because I believe it is well made enough to take my weight. But once I put my trust in the equpment, that trust is tested and proven. It's not dissimilar with God. He's not a theoretical entity; to those who have believed and trusted in him he has shown himself to be close at hand and very real.

Yes, I assumed that's what you meant.

And yet he still wants you. ;)

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You sure do Gary!
One day, maybe!

Goodnight all, God bless, sweet dreams, my bed is calling me.