Originally Posted by georgepomone (Post 34640784)

I knew something like this would happen. I'm 64 this year, before I'm able to draw anything they will send me a gun to shoot myself.;)

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35778933)

I personally think the German model would work better for us as a country, providing the funding required.

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35778935)

Which you have to question why these drugs costs so much.

is it because the ingredients have been specially collected from a far away galaxy where no man has ventured before?

in other words. could these 'expensive' drugs be sold for £5 a pop in the real world. if you take greed and profit out of it?

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35778931)

I had not actually read your post before this one, however a comment on that article says what I would have.



The last year of life is a huge proportion of a person's entire lifetime's healthcare bill. It's one of the key places where lack of funding of the NHS will manifest unfortunately.

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35778935)

Which you have to question why these drugs costs so much.

is it because the ingredients have been specially collected from a far away galaxy where no man has ventured before?

in other words. could these 'expensive' drugs be sold for £5 a pop in the real world. if you take greed and profit out of it?

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35778935)

Which you have to question why these drugs costs so much.

is it because the ingredients have been specially collected from a far away galaxy where no man has ventured before?

in other words. could these 'expensive' drugs be sold for £5 a pop in the real world. if you take greed and profit out of it?

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35780582)

This is what we want here? Struck of doctors sending depressed non terminally ill people to a clinic that loots the deads valuables and is happy to let people die in cars if there are no rooms available. Those safeguards they have in place are looking hollow which was my fear all along.

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35797609)

*Sigh*





I could understand if there were concerns about safeguards, in which case the obvious response would seem to be to table amendments to remedy the issues, however I'm approaching it from a logical point of view which is something our elected representatives appear to struggle with.

Usual BS from the SNP I see.



Indeed. Because few things say life and dignity quite like forcing a terminally ill person to spend their last months in agony enjoying the dignity of their body breaking down, right?

It's astounding. We euthanise animals even though we have advanced veterinary medicine as their quality of life becomes severely impaired, we consider this 'humane', however despite the majority of the population supporting it our elected representatives refuse to extend this to human beings. Death isn't a pleasant thought but it's going to happen to all of us, and whether we like it or not some of us will be unfortunate enough to know that we are going to die imminently, and may suffer horribly in the interim as our bodies fail us. At some point many of the terminal ill stop living even though they're still breathing and are simply dying, and for some each day will become increasingly wearisome. If it's clear there's no chance of recovery, and continuing to breathe is prolonging torment (it's a stretch to call it 'living') there should be a choice.

Base emotion, alongside some religious fervour, has managed to override humanity :(

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No it isn't, which is why it wasn't what was on the table. 2 doctors both of whom are not struck off and a High Court judge's agreement required. Not that it made any difference of course.

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35797683)

All I see here is the boomer generation once again agitating for what they want, when they want it. And, for once, I see legislators standing up for the benefit of wider society as being more important than the unfettered free choice of an individual.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35797634)

Was that what the Swiss were expecting when they legalised it then, people left to die in cars whilst their valuables are looted, all under the observation of struck of doctors to boot, their existing laws watered down so not just the terminally ill can benefit but those who are simply a bit tired can to and if it's not what they were expecting how long before the same happens here, saying a high court judge is involved so all will be fine isn't what it seems either, from what I've heard they will be there as a tidying up exercise for the paperwork and none of that sounds very humane to me either