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CrowmanUK 25-10-2008 12:00

Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
 
The first line people you see at citizens advice take your details and then you see someone with experience in your problem, I've found them invaluable in the past and they do have some very skilled people in there, whether this would be too different to what they normally deal with and therefore unable to help you with I couldnt comment on.

cook1984 25-10-2008 22:39

Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
 
I asked Citizens Advice, apparently anyone can just randomly sue anyone else for anything they like at any time and the other person has to defend themselves or loose by default.

Sounds like a brilliant money making scam. Say you claim £500 from each person, and each letter costs 50p to print, put in an envelope and post, you only need more than 1 in 1000 to pay up and you are making money.

whydoIneedatech 25-10-2008 22:47

Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cook1984 (Post 34661450)
I asked Citizens Advice, apparently anyone can just randomly sue anyone else for anything they like at any time and the other person has to defend themselves or loose by default.

Sounds like a brilliant money making scam. Say you claim £500 from each person, and each letter costs 50p to print, put in an envelope and post, you only need more than 1 in 1000 to pay up and you are making money.

I hope the Nigerians are not reading this:D

On a serious note that shows how important it is that you refute any claims made against you and never to ignore any such claim as the Civil Court Judge will find in favour of the plaintiff every time if you bury your head in the sand.

cook1984 26-10-2008 20:37

Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
 
I would be tempted to ignore it until they actually take me to court, just so I can argue it and win.

Hugh 26-10-2008 20:49

Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
 
Good luck - please let us know the outcome.

Kymmy 03-11-2008 16:51

Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
 
Going back to the 3 strikes rule the French might be on the verge of making it law

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7706014.stm

Toto 03-11-2008 17:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34667407)
Going back to the 3 strikes rule the French might be on the verge of making it law

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7706014.stm

I seem to remember some UK government interest in this also, it was on the BBC technology section, but can't find it now. :(

Kymmy 03-11-2008 17:25

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Originally Posted by Toto (Post 34667419)
I seem to remember some UK government interest in this also, it was on the BBC technology section, but can't find it now. :(

Perhaps this one??

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7258437.stm

Toto 03-11-2008 17:55

Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
 
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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34667420)

Nice find, thanks, but the one I had in mind had Lord Triesman in it, and he said that he or the government were looking at the Sarkkozy three strike proposal very closely.

I'll keep looking, shouldn't take long, I think the article was from early last year.

CrowmanUK 03-11-2008 18:09

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That could be interesting, if something like that came into play and was enforced would there be any customers left on the top two tiers at VM? ;)

joglynne 03-11-2008 18:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Toto (Post 34667429)
Nice find, thanks, but the one I had in mind had Lord Triesman in it, and he said that he or the government were looking at the Sarkkozy three strike proposal very closely.

I'll keep looking, shouldn't take long, I think the article was from early last year.

Quote:

France's deal could set a precedent, however. Rights holders have been pressuring UK ISPs to join them in setting up a similar scheme. Government minister Lord Triesman has threatened new laws to force broadband providers to act against illegal file-sharers if a voluntary agreement can't be reached, though said that talks were progresssing well.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/11...e_isps_record/

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Lord Triesman, the minister for intellectual property, said that if ISPs can't agree a voluntary scheme with the music and film industries by the end of summer, he will press Gordon Brown to introduce legislation in the next Queen's speech.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/01...ion_timetable/

Toto 03-11-2008 19:18

Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
 
Yup, the second article.

Quote:

He also revealed that the UK government is working with the French on their anti-infringement legislation - measures which Nikolas Sarkozy promised in his presidential manifesto.

mercyground 05-11-2008 13:07

Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
 
Anyone else think its rather an abuse of influence that the Media Mafia are pushing a civil matter via criminal courts and pushing for penelties that are higher than most severe crimes?

Nice racket if you are in the pigtrough.

Its about time that someone properly investigated them and the pricefixing and abuse of their artists. All the moneys claimed back in these cases NEVER go back to the artists and the media mafia are still claiming they are being bled dry.

If they had properly managed the "Napster" effect they could have had a proper content delivery and would not be in this position. Also the artists would get a fairer deal.

I would seriously hope that more artists will go with a "direct to public" method and cut out the industry completely. Its the only way that the existing monoploy will be broken and evicted. (and hopefully be an end to the manufactured "pop" crap that is spewed on our tv. <for the love of god someone shoot simon "Xfactor". Its all his fault>)

side note. I love my V+ box. Adverts? what are they. I'm sick of being sold loans, adverts and other crap... and why do kids need them? Boomerang 4tw :P

Toto 05-11-2008 17:57

Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mercyground (Post 34669083)
Anyone else think its rather an abuse of influence that the Media Mafia are pushing a civil matter via criminal courts and pushing for penelties that are higher than most severe crimes?

Nice racket if you are in the pigtrough.

Its about time that someone properly investigated them and the pricefixing and abuse of their artists. All the moneys claimed back in these cases NEVER go back to the artists and the media mafia are still claiming they are being bled dry.

If they had properly managed the "Napster" effect they could have had a proper content delivery and would not be in this position. Also the artists would get a fairer deal.

I would seriously hope that more artists will go with a "direct to public" method and cut out the industry completely. Its the only way that the existing monoploy will be broken and evicted. (and hopefully be an end to the manufactured "pop" crap that is spewed on our tv. <for the love of god someone shoot simon "Xfactor". Its all his fault>)

side note. I love my V+ box. Adverts? what are they. I'm sick of being sold loans, adverts and other crap... and why do kids need them? Boomerang 4tw :P

The last reported case of Davenport Lyons taking an Internet user to court was actually in a specialist Patents county court apparently.

Quote:

Games maker Topware Interactive was awarded £6,086.56 in damages and £10,000 in lawyers' fees by the Patents County Court in London
Not aware of criminal courts being used, or whether it actually makes a difference in the end result.

AND I have just realised this is the wrong thread, apologies to mercyground....OOPS.


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