I couldn't care less in someone in Birmingham (being safe and sound in Manchester) was robbed - it doesn't mean it's not wrong and shouldn't be punished.

Well justanothernoob the balls in your court you should have the PM. The decision is yours

NTL are NOT inflicting a loss on anyone.
What people choose to do with their conection that just happens to be provided by NTL is their business and/or the business of the people trying to get it stopped.
NTL are not to blame for what people do with their connections.

You are allowed to copy it, if you own the original.

But they are responsible for advertising illegal actions in order to get more business

What illegal claims have they made?

There are 4000000000000 movies downloaded from the internet (or whatever) - fact - what's illegal about that?

Spiderman was in the internet before it was in the cinema - fact. Anything illegal about that?

Stop making mountains out of molehills. You want to stop something terrible and illegal, give your spare time to the NSPCC, or your local animal rescue centre or something - run a marathon to raise funds for a battered wives shelter.

Or just get a grip and a sense of perspective.....

So as someone else already said, it would be in 'in your book' if they adverted that you can download child porn then. Come on. :rolleyes:

You guys still haven't answered my other comments about what you think should be done

You go OB

Go OB
Go OB
Go OB
GO:D

You can't compare the two, that really is grasping at straws.

CHild porn is disgusting/**** of the earth/sick/ etc etc etc which can destroy peoples lives forever.
Copying a film illegally mean the company doesn't receive the royalties. Whoop-de bloody doo.

Not comparable at all. What was I saying about perspective?...... :rolleyes:

It is not the facts themselves that are illegal. NTL are advertising an internet service and are using these facts as incentives. As the things the facts are describing are illegal, then you could say that NTL are supporting illegal practices or at least using them to gain customers.

This is true, but when Fox, Disney, universal, etc start shedding jobs because of it ...

Talking of "grasping at straws", don't you think by introducing the above that you are more guilty than anyone?

The kind of quote above is always trotted out when someone cannot think of anything else to substantiate their arguement.

btw...how do you know what any of the members do in the rest of their spare time?

OH, OK. And if ntl get a bloody great fine, where do you think they're going to cut costs?

It's a shame I've never seen you so supportive of ntl employees when other members here and .com quite openly say how much they would like the company to go under....

Facts are facts, unchangeable reality.

Using these facts to sell a service, when the facts are an undesirable ? Right or Wrong ?

Do that already.:D

I'll be the first to cry if NTL go under - but - they have done something wrong. They need to be held accountable. Personally, I'd just fire whoever made that advert.