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Shadow Demon UK 17-01-2007 13:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 34199392)
Not as big a blow as Roman leaving though.
True, i can't see many of Chelsea's players hanging around if the bloke with all the money leaves :)

sherer 17-01-2007 13:05
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although i'm not a big fan of Chelsea if you see any footage of them in training they have a great team spirit and Mourinho is all part of that if he goes so will that

also looks like fatty could be off to AC Milan

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/ucl...ss2005&att=app

gazzae 17-01-2007 13:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34199399)
True, i can't see many of Chelsea's players hanging around if the bloke with all the money leaves :)
I can't see Chelsea being around!!

TheDaddy 17-01-2007 13:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34199399)
True, i can't see many of Chelsea's players hanging around if the bloke with all the money leaves :)
I thought Roman had given the club a £500 million bond, to make sure the club could survive if anything happened to him? Mind you if he got really annoyed he could always build houses on the ground and make them ground share with Fulham :Yikes:

Shadow Demon UK 17-01-2007 19:56
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I saw this in the paper today and made me laugh - Link

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Green referred to Sylvester Stallone’s appearance at Goodison Park as a “pathetic stunt by a B-list celebrity” and made comments as the actor left the ground before the end of the game about him “going to see whether his Limousine was on bricks”.
:rofl:

gazzae 17-01-2007 20:04
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Fergie 'Excited' By Dong

China international Dong Fangzhou has signed a new deal with Manchester United and has been cleared to play for the Barclays Premiership leaders.

The 21-year-old forward has signed a contract which lasts until 2010 and is now able to make his competitive debut having received a work permit.

United boss Sir Alex Ferguson told club website manutd.com: "We're all excited he has eventually arrived and can start playing.

"He sacrificed two and a half years at Royal Antwerp, which showed great patience and determination.

"He is quick and athletic and he can only improve by training with the first team squad here."

United signed Dong from Dalian Shide three years ago
http://www.football365.com/story/0,1...849456,00.html

Mal 17-01-2007 23:00
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Link

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Originally Posted by BBC Sport
Manchester United striker Giuseppe Rossi has joined former team Parma on loan until the end of the season, the Italian club website has reported.

nffc 18-01-2007 00:41
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Newcastle 1-5 Birmingham.

here endeth our ten year record of being the last side to win in the FAC at St James' Park.

sherer 18-01-2007 10:06
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ok it wasn't exactly the same team but they play us in the league and everytime we get the ball the put us under pressure and get a draw then they play a team from the division below them and loose 5-1

Shadow Demon UK 18-01-2007 12:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34200023)
ok it wasn't exactly the same team but they play us in the league and everytime we get the ball the put us under pressure and get a draw then they play a team from the division below them and loose 5-1
When teams like Newcastle play against Man utd it's basically thier cup final so they raise their game and put in extra effort. Last night they were playing a lower league club, who will probably be in the premiership next season so do have some quality players, in a half empty stadium, so it doesn't suprise me they didn't play as well against Birmingham as they did against United.

pedantic 18-01-2007 12:57
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Even more dosh for the Premiership. Crazy money I tell ya !

Linky

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The winner of football's Premiership will net an extra £50m from next season after the league agreed a new £625m deal for overseas television rights.
Here's an interesting part though.......

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Income from the deal means even the team finishing bottom of the pile will claim £30m
That sort of money, will mean the team finishing bottom, will be well equipped for a swift return the following season.

Russ 18-01-2007 12:59
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That extra £50m will come in handy for our transfer pot :D

gazzae 18-01-2007 13:03
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They'll get their parachute payments on top of that.

Think its something like £14Mil over 2 years for relegated teams

TheDaddy 18-01-2007 13:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34200178)
That extra £50m will come in handy for our transfer pot :D
That'll come in handy to make Malcolm richer and pay of some of your debt

yesman 18-01-2007 20:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34200204)
That'll come in handy to make Malcolm richer and pay of some of your debt
You may get £30m in your parachute payment come the end of the season :D :jk:

TheDaddy 18-01-2007 20:42
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Originally Posted by yesman (Post 34200556)
You may get £30m in your parachute payment come the end of the season :D :jk:
Good that'll make Eggbert a bit richer and help pay of some of our debt :(

yesman 18-01-2007 22:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34200568)
Good that'll make Eggbert a bit richer and help pay of some of our debt :(
Exactly ;)

Just a thought........how many clubs in the premiership are not owned by a foreign investor ?

TheDaddy 18-01-2007 22:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yesman (Post 34200696)
Exactly ;)

Just a thought........how many clubs in the premiership are not owned by a foreign investor ?
and how many have actually paid cash for the club and not mortgaged it to the hilt to finance it, sorry to keep going on about it but it just doesn't seem right to me :mad:

yesman 18-01-2007 22:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34200701)
and how many have actually paid cash for the club and not mortgaged it to the hilt to finance it, sorry to keep going on about it but it just doesn't seem right to me :mad:
Me either, in hindsight, it would have been better if Rupert Murduch had succeeded in his bid for United a few years ago.

If we are not careful I have a feeling some clubs might cease to exist :(

sherer 19-01-2007 09:55
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the problem is that now all the clubs have to pay millions to agents just to get new players and survive in the league as such money goes out of the game and disappears which means we have to pay more on tickets to make up for it

Shadow Demon UK 19-01-2007 14:22
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Also wont this mean that the ridiculously high transfer fees and players wages will grow even more because clubs will have more money to spend? It will also be very difficult for Championship sides to get promoted unless they were relegated from the Premiership the season before as those relegated teams will have more money to spend on players and will be able to keep their better players because of the extra money they are getting for being relegated. This is not a good thing in my opinion.

gazzae 19-01-2007 14:42
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JOHNSON TOILET SCAM FOILED

An England footballer has been given an on-the-spot fine for stealing bathroom fittings.

England defender Glen Johnson, who plays for Portsmouth on loan from Chelsea, and Millwall striker Ben May were caught at B&Q in Dartford, Kent, on Wednesday.

The pair were spotted by a security guard putting a toilet seat into a box with a cheaper price tag before they reached the checkout, The Sun reported.

They also avoided paying for a set of taps by concealing them underneath a sink at the checkout, the newspaper said.

A worker at the store told The Sun: "We all recognised Johnson. No one could quite believe a bloke like him, with all that money, would be moronic enough to nick a toilet seat. But that's what him and May were doing.

"They were spotted by one of our security guards, a chap of 74, and cops arrived as they were trying to leave.

"They seemed to find the whole thing funny and couldn't stop smirking even after they had been arrested."

http://www.football365.com/story/0,1...854790,00.html

Saaf_laandon_mo 19-01-2007 14:53
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WTH!!!! Isnt he on 30k a week??

Gordon_30 19-01-2007 14:55
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Perhaps he took the toilet seat because his form is Sh*t

well that's his career down the pan (If he can fit the toilet seat on it)

probably told the cops to bog off

yesman 19-01-2007 17:02
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Gavin will be pleased.......

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Tottenham's next Uefa Cup opponents Feyenoord have been excluded from this season's competition.
Uefa has banished the Dutch club after the crowd trouble at French side Nancy on 30 November. Uefa are expected to confirm next week whether Spurs will get a bye, which appears the most plausible option.
BBC Sport

---------- Post added at 17:02 ---------- Previous post was at 16:42 ----------

So much news on a Friday night :erm:

Man Utd back in for Hargreaves

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/6279961.stm

Shadow Demon UK 19-01-2007 17:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yesman (Post 34201111)
So much news on a Friday night :erm:

Man Utd back in for Hargreaves

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/6279961.stm
This is starting to annoy me, he obviously wants to move but he keeps on saying "I can't really do much, it's not on my side" Why doesn't he just hand in a transfer request? Surely then Bayern will take it a bit more seriously and the move will be more likely to happen.

TheDaddy 19-01-2007 17:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34201201)
This is starting to annoy me, he obviously wants to move but he keeps on saying "I can't really do much, it's not on my side" Why doesn't he just hand in a transfer request? Surely then Bayern will take it a bit more seriously and the move will be more likely to happen.
It would prove haow much he wanted to play for you guy's, as he'd lose out on well over a million pounds if he did that

Gordon_30 19-01-2007 19:00
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Hargreaves isn't a 20 million pound player

Bayern only said that to put off potential buyers but when there a english football club willing to spend that much money well what can you do

You would think we would learn by now that when english clubs get involved transfer fees go up by 66%

Nugget 19-01-2007 19:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordon_30 (Post 34201285)
Hargreaves isn't a 20 million pound player

Bayern only said that to put off potential buyers but when there a english football club willing to spend that much money well what can you do

You would think we would learn by now that when english clubs get involved transfer fees go up by 66%
Hmmm - as the best player we had at the world cup (and yes, I am aware that was 7 months ago), and taking into account the fact that United paid 18 million for Carrick, I'd say that Hargreaves is well worth 20 million. Anyway, you'll probably find that it's not English clubs that result in price rises - it's Chelsea in particular who have distorted the transfer market :shrug:

Gordon_30 19-01-2007 19:12
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the transfer fee increase that comes with English clubs getting involved didn't start with Chelsea now Chelsea have made the situation worse just as common sense was starting to come back to transfer fees but it did not start with them

and foreign clubs take advantage of it getting English Clubs to pay over the odds for players and then doing to exact opposite when they want players

Rudd Van Nisteroy is the perfect example of this man utd paid 28 million for him i think and man utd got half or perhaps not even that

they should have at least got their money back for him

Russ 19-01-2007 19:15
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For a 30 year old striker? Yer having a larf.

Nugget 19-01-2007 19:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordon_30 (Post 34201294)
the transfer fee increase that comes with English clubs getting involved didn't start with Chelsea now Chelsea have made the situation worse just as common sense was starting to come back to transfer fees but it did not start with them

and foreign clubs take advantage of it getting English Clubs to pay over the odds for players and then doing to exact opposite when they want players

Rudd Van Nisteroy is the perfect example of this man utd paid 28 million for him i think and man utd got half or perhaps not even that

they should have at least got their money back for him

What piffle - van Nistelrooy left Man U as another player who Fergie fell out with (or, more accurately, who fell out with Fergie). As a result, he was sold at a cheaper price to get rid of him (and, as it turns out, Man U don't appear to be missing him, do they?). Fergie's not bad at recognising when to get of players, even if they make a loss.

Anyway, if English clubs are responsible for inflated price rises, can you please explain why Beckham's just got a £128 million pound contract, or why Man U have got Larsson on loan?

gazzae 19-01-2007 19:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordon_30 (Post 34201294)
Rudd Van Nisteroy is the perfect example of this man utd paid 28 million for him i think and man utd got half or perhaps not even that

they should have at least got their money back for him
Brought for 19m sold for 10.2m

Gordon_30 19-01-2007 19:22
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I stand corrected on the amount they paid for him but going by previous posts does everybody have this opinion about Andriy Shevchenko

so who was it man utd paid for 28 million for as the answer eludes me at the moment

Russ 19-01-2007 19:23
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Rooney arrived for £27m, Rio for £29m.

Nugget 19-01-2007 19:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordon_30 (Post 34201305)
I stand corrected on the amount they paid for him but going by previous posts does everybody have this opinion about Andriy Shevchenko

so who was it man utd paid for 28 million for as the answer eludes me at the moment

Wasn't it Rio (from an English club to another)?

TheDaddy 19-01-2007 19:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nugget (Post 34201299)
Anyway, if English clubs are responsible for inflated price rises, can you please explain why Beckham's just got a £128 million pound contract, or why Man U have got Larsson on loan?
They both cost the same then, nothing

---------- Post added at 19:26 ---------- Previous post was at 19:24 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nugget (Post 34201290)
Hmmm - as the best player we had at the world cup (and yes, I am aware that was 7 months ago), and taking into account the fact that United paid 18 million for Carrick, I'd say that Hargreaves is well worth 20 million. Anyway, you'll probably find that it's not English clubs that result in price rises - it's Chelsea in particular who have distorted the transfer market :shrug:
For some unknown reason English clubs always pay over the odds for English talent, the only difference is this time the talent plays for an oversea's club

Nugget 19-01-2007 19:26
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As for Shevchenko, doesn't that rather prove my point about Chelsea distorting the market? Ignoring the fact that he hasn't (yet!) exactly set the Premiership alight, if reports are to be believed, he was bought over Mourinhos head, and purely because he's a personal friend of Abramovich - not really the best example...

Gordon_30 19-01-2007 19:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nugget (Post 34201299)
What piffle - van Nistelrooy left Man U as another player who Fergie fell out with (or, more accurately, who fell out with Fergie). As a result, he was sold at a cheaper price to get rid of him (and, as it turns out, Man U don't appear to be missing him, do they?). Fergie's not bad at recognising when to get of players, even if they make a loss.

Anyway, if English clubs are responsible for inflated price rises, can you please explain why Beckham's just got a £128 million pound contract, or why Man U have got Larsson on loan?
Because Beckham Is A Brand more than a player and Man utd Got Larsson on loan because the owner took out more loans than nick leeson to buy the club and are not a solvent as people are lead to believe

and fergie is not a bad manager but in my opinion has overstayed his tenure at man utd by 3 or 4 years

Russ 19-01-2007 19:28
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Originally Posted by Gordon_30 (Post 34201316)
and fergie is not a bad manager but in my opinion has overstayed his tenure at man utd by 3 or 4 years
Yes, he should have gone to a club who'd be topping the premiership by 6 points halfway through the season.

gazzae 19-01-2007 19:28
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Veron was 28m as well

Nugget 19-01-2007 19:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordon_30 (Post 34201316)
Because Beckham Is A Brand more than a player and Man utd Got Larsson on loan because the owner took out more loans than nick leeson to buy the club and are not a solvent as people are lead to believe

and fergie is not a bad manager but in my opinion has overstayed his tenure at man utd by 3 or 4 years
:rofl:

Man U aren't solvent? They may not be as well off as they used to be, but they're not exactly crawling cap-in-hand to Yeovil to loan their spare striker, are they?

TheDaddy 19-01-2007 19:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nugget (Post 34201315)
As for Shevchenko, doesn't that rather prove my point about Chelsea distorting the market? Ignoring the fact that he hasn't (yet!) exactly set the Premiership alight, if reports are to be believed, he was bought over Mourinhos head, and purely because he's a personal friend of Abramovich - not really the best example...
You could say the same about Juan Veron and it is quite common in Europe for chairmen to do the signings, presumably that's why they have coaches and not managers, maybe this is the start of us going down that route?

Gordon_30 19-01-2007 19:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nugget (Post 34201315)
As for Shevchenko, doesn't that rather prove my point about Chelsea distorting the market? Ignoring the fact that he hasn't (yet!) exactly set the Premiership alight, if reports are to be believed, he was bought over Mourinhos head, and purely because he's a personal friend of Abramovich - not really the best example...
True but to say chelsea started this ball rolling is not the case

English clubs were paying over the odds long before chelsea have the financial muscle they have now

and perhaps Shevchenko was a bad example but there are others

I'm sure people on here can come up with some

TheDaddy 19-01-2007 19:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34201317)
Yes, he should have gone to a club who'd be topping the premiership by 6 points halfway through the season.
Of course another way to look at it is, if United blow it this season, how long will it have been since you won anything other than the league cup

Gordon_30 19-01-2007 19:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34201321)
You could say the same about Juan Veron and it is quite common on in Europe for chairmen to do the signings, presumably that's why they have coaches and not managers, maybe this is the start of us going down that route?
I certainly hope not as i think a manager should be in complete control no interference from above

hearts is the prime example on course to win spl last season chairman got involved situation gone to hell

west ham this season 2 argentines bought in and despite what pardew said he didn't want them disrupted the club look where they are now bottom 3

this is a route we want to avoid going down

Russ 19-01-2007 19:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34201326)
Of course another way to look at it is, if United blow it this season, how long will it have been since you won anything other than the league cup
True but as you know as well as I do, we won't be blowing it this year :)

TheDaddy 19-01-2007 19:40
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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34201333)
True but as you know as well as I do, we won't be blowing it this year :)
I sincerely hope that is true :tu:

Russ 19-01-2007 19:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34201336)
I sincerely hope that is true :tu:
Keep the faith brother, keep the faith :D

TheDaddy 19-01-2007 19:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordon_30 (Post 34201328)
I certainly hope not as i think a manager should be in complete control no interference from above

hearts is the prime example on course to win spl last season chairman got involved situation gone to hell

west ham this season 2 argentines bought in and despite what pardew said he didn't want them disrupted the club look where they are now bottom 3

this is a route we want to avoid going down
It seems to work for them and with the right level of respect shown and properly defined roles, there is no reason why it shouldn't work here to, in fact it might even be better for the clubs.

Hearts are challenging now, where were they before the Latvian took over?

I never saw AP complain once about the Argentineans and why should he, two young, world class players, they should be welcomed by any club that has ambition, I see one of them is off to Liverpool now and the other is still being talked about in the same breath as the likes of Maradona

Gordon_30 19-01-2007 20:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34201348)
It seems to work for them and with the right level of respect shown and properly defined roles, there is no reason why it shouldn't work here to, in fact it might even be better for the clubs.

Hearts are challenging now, where were they before the Latvian took over?

I never saw AP complain once about the Argentineans and why should he, two young, world class players, they should be welcomed by any club that has ambition, I see one of them is off to Liverpool now and the other is still being talked about in the same breath as the likes of Maradona
If the 2 argentines were that good why did he hardly play them
and as for been mentioned in the the same breath as Maradona does that mean he's going to start heading with his hand as well

TheDaddy 19-01-2007 20:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordon_30 (Post 34201354)
If the 2 argentines were that good why did he hardly play them
and as for been mentioned in the the same breath as Maradona does that mean he's going to start heading with his hand as well
Just because they and the team couldn't adapt doesn't mean they shouldn't have been signed, if that were the case clubs wouldn't sign anyone for fear of them failing.

The Maradona comparisons might have more to do with him being one the very best players the planet has produced ;)

Mal 19-01-2007 22:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 34201005)
JOHNSON TOILET SCAM FOILED

An England footballer has been given an on-the-spot fine for stealing bathroom fittings.

England defender Glen Johnson, who plays for Portsmouth on loan from Chelsea, and Millwall striker Ben May were caught at B&Q in Dartford, Kent, on Wednesday.

The pair were spotted by a security guard putting a toilet seat into a box with a cheaper price tag before they reached the checkout, The Sun reported.

They also avoided paying for a set of taps by concealing them underneath a sink at the checkout, the newspaper said.

A worker at the store told The Sun: "We all recognised Johnson. No one could quite believe a bloke like him, with all that money, would be moronic enough to nick a toilet seat. But that's what him and May were doing.

"They were spotted by one of our security guards, a chap of 74, and cops arrived as they were trying to leave.

"They seemed to find the whole thing funny and couldn't stop smirking even after they had been arrested."

http://www.football365.com/story/0,1...854790,00.html
...and another Pompey player in the nick...

Gordon_30 20-01-2007 10:53
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What is Lomana Lualua Playing At?

Surely if he wants to beat somebody up he has enough money to hire a few Heavies to do it on his behalf

iadom 20-01-2007 15:20
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Well done Liverpool. :D

Shadow Demon UK 20-01-2007 15:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iadom (Post 34201886)
Well done Liverpool. :D
:tu: :D

I just hope we can make it count tomorrow :)

Russ 20-01-2007 19:18
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Cheers scousers :D

nffc 20-01-2007 21:40
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Haha nice to see chelskum's preparation for the big match next sunday is going well :D

yesman 20-01-2007 22:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nffc (Post 34202127)
Haha nice to see chelskum's preparation for the big match next sunday is going well :D
As long as you are not on the receiving end of a backlash, all should be fine.
Good Luck :tu:

iadom 20-01-2007 22:53
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Jamie Carragher was my M.O.M. :p: He had Diddling Dogbreath in his pocket all afternoon.

yesman 20-01-2007 23:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iadom (Post 34202174)
Jamie Carragher was my MOM.
Jim, you are not an American with a fetish are you ? :D

Sorry, I just couldn't resist

DocDutch 21-01-2007 18:30
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hey hasnt any1 noticed that Russ is a bit quiet now :P


ARSENAL beating MANU again :D

gazzae 21-01-2007 18:35
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Well played Arsenal.
Can't stand that **** Eboue though.

Anyway, whats the gap now? 12 points?

Shadow Demon UK 21-01-2007 18:51
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I thought Arsenal were lucky to get the win, a draw would have been a fair result in my opinion but fair play they battled to the end. One thing that really annoyed me though is moaning Wenger complaining at every single decision made and even when VDS was putting the ball down for a goal kick. Shut up you moaning French retard.:mad:

At least the gap is still a good one.

Quote:
Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 34202677)
Anyway, whats the gap now? 12 points?
Stop dreaming mate, it's not gonna happen.

Russ 21-01-2007 19:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DocDutch (Post 34202664)
hey hasnt any1 noticed that Russ is a bit quiet now :P
A bit hard to type when I'm in a wrestling ring ;)

Quote:
Originally Posted by DocDutch (Post 34202664)
ARSENAL beating MANU again :D
Yes, well done - by the end of the season you'll have nothing to show for your efforts (again) other than 2 wins over the premiership champions :)

yesman 21-01-2007 19:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DocDutch (Post 34202664)
hey hasnt any1 noticed that Russ is a bit quiet now :P
That might be because he is not online ;) or wasn't :D

Quote:
ARSENAL beating MANU again :D
It evens itself out over the seasons

From a personal point of view United defended too deeply in this game, allowing Arsenal to come on to them, this happens time and time again against decent sides..........Just play your normal game Fergie :mad:

carlingman 22-01-2007 03:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34202696)
A bit hard to type when I'm in a wrestling ring ;)



Yes, well done - by the end of the season you'll have nothing to show for your efforts (again) other than 2 wins over the premiership champions :)

Now now Russ get your facts right, We have not beaten the premiership champions twice as we have only played them once which resulted in a 1-1 draw and the follow up game wtih Chelski is not until May at the Emirates.

Nice to see Van The Man Persie can still put it in the back of the net and then picked up while celebrating a Rooney type injury, broken metatarsal and will be out for 6 weeks. :mad:

Still nice comfortable win for us as Neville hacking Henry should have been a Penalty or a booking for Henry as surely he dived in the eyes of a United
fan.

Still the Worlds best footballer of this time sealed the day and sent the Smug United fans packing.

:D

Theres only one Thierry Henry.

:D

Sad part is Uniteds manager cant be bothered any longer to give interviews so puts his number 2 Queiroz up for the flack.

Not many are as much as a wimp as he is even Jose put his hands up to a bad display and is honest but Fergie and Redknapp leave it up to their number two to give the excuses.

:D

Russ 22-01-2007 07:08
Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
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Originally Posted by carlingman (Post 34202936)
Now now Russ get your facts right, We have not beaten the premiership champions twice as we have only played them once which resulted in a 1-1 draw and the follow up game wtih Chelski is not until May at the Emirates.
No, you beat the champions yesterday :)

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Originally Posted by carlingman (Post 34202936)
Still nice comfortable win for us
Ah, so you didn't see the game then.

Still, at least you'll have something to remember this season with :D

Shadow Demon UK 22-01-2007 09:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carlingman (Post 34202936)
Sad part is Uniteds manager cant be bothered any longer to give interviews so puts his number 2 Queiroz up for the flack.

Not many are as much as a wimp as he is even Jose put his hands up to a bad display and is honest but Fergie and Redknapp leave it up to their number two to give the excuses.
Typical arsenal supporter, doesn't know anything :rolleyes: The reason both Ferguson, Redknapp and now Big Sam don't talk to the BBC is because of the documentaries that are full of rubbish that they have shown about them and in Fergies case his son. All three still talk to all other reporters and if you actually watched the match he talked to sky afterwards. If you have bothered to read any report of the match you will see comments made by Ferguson.

Saaf_laandon_mo 22-01-2007 09:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34203004)
Typical arsenal supporter, doesn't know anything :rolleyes: The reason both Ferguson, Redknapp and now Big Sam don't talk to the BBC is because of the documentaries that are full of rubbish that they have shown about them and in Fergies case his son. All three still talk to all other reporters and if you actually watched the match he talked to sky afterwards. If you have bothered to read any report of the match you will see comments made by Ferguson.
Can you blame him tho (thats Carlingman not Fergie), he probably takes his lead from Mr Wenger, and as we know that man never sees a thing ;)

BBKing 22-01-2007 10:43
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Mr. Wenger does indeed talk to the press (except after the West Ham game, but we'll gloss over that). It's instructive that the three Premiership managers who won't talk to the BBC are the kind of big, bluff, no-nonsense Brits that are always banging on about these touchy foreigners coming over and not being able to understand the British way - well, those foreigners seem to be bit less touchy than Big Sam, 'arry and Fungusmoan.

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No, you beat the champions yesterday
No, Liverpool beat the Champions on Saturday - seems there's only one team that can win away at Anfield this season. Actually, make that two, Arsenal and Arsenal Reserves.

If by some miracle Man Utd had actually won the league recently, you'd be calling them 'champions' all season, United Boys. Give Chelsea that respect (and no more, they don't deserve it and are going to implode - what a shame they gave us Gallas and £5m for that **** Ashley Cole, who I note failed to do his job and close down that other **** Pennant on Saturday. Kerching, chalk another one up for Arsene).

As for overpriced players, our back four cost
Clichy - £250,000
Senderos - £1.3m
Toure - probably about £250,000
Eboue - £1.3m

Seems a pretty good deal, really, compared with Oops-There-Goes-The-Ball Rio Ferdinand.

sherer 22-01-2007 11:12
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well i blame VDS for the second goal as he should have been able to tip it over.. the first was onstoppable but he still should have been closer to the ball.. you only need to watch him on the balls Rio and Vidic clear to see he has no clue any more

fair play to Arsenal they didn't give up and we surrendered the ball to them too easily all the time

says alot about us that we prefer 35 yo Larsson to Saha up front and that great signing Park couldn't even make the bench

iadom 22-01-2007 11:24
Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
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Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34203075)
Park couldn't even make the bench
Park bench, love it.:D

Shadow Demon UK 22-01-2007 12:10
Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BBKing (Post 34203057)
Mr. Wenger does indeed talk to the press (except after the West Ham game, but we'll gloss over that). It's instructive that the three Premiership managers who won't talk to the BBC are the kind of big, bluff, no-nonsense Brits that are always banging on about these touchy foreigners coming over and not being able to understand the British way - well, those foreigners seem to be bit less touchy than Big Sam, 'arry and Fungusmoan.
I'm sure if the BBC made a documentary about Wengers son (if he has one) that was complete lies and Bull**** he wouldn't talk to them. It's not as if he doesn't say anything after a match, as Wenger has done, he just doesn't talk to the BBC, the BBC expect managers to talk to them even though they make programmes about them taking bungs and calling them cheats, IMO Fergie has every right not to talk to them.

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Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34203075)
says alot about us that we prefer 35 yo Larsson to Saha up front and that great signing Park couldn't even make the bench
Seeing that Saha has been out injured for a while it didn't suprise me Larsson started who has been playing well of late.

Russ 22-01-2007 13:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BBKing (Post 34203057)
Mr. Wenger does indeed talk to the press (except after the West Ham game, but we'll gloss over that).
No, what we'll gloss over is the way you're nowhere to be seen when Arsenal lose and suddenly reappear when you win.

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Originally Posted by BBKing (Post 34203057)
No, Liverpool beat the Champions on Saturday - seems there's only one team that can win away at Anfield this season. Actually, make that two, Arsenal and Arsenal Reserves.
Well, that's something you can take home this season I suppose.

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Originally Posted by BBKing (Post 34203057)
If by some miracle Man Utd had actually won the league recently, you'd be calling them 'champions' all season, United Boys.
Well yes, that's what loyal supporters do.

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Originally Posted by BBKing (Post 34203057)
Seems a pretty good deal, really, compared with Oops-There-Goes-The-Ball Rio Ferdinand.
Yes a really good deal for a team in, what, 4th position? And our overpriced Ferdinand's mates have put us in what, 1st position by 6 points?

Arsenal logic indeed, you just can't beat* it :dozey:





*for 'beat', read 'make any sense of'.

Mal 22-01-2007 13:09
Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34203137)
No, what we'll gloss over is the way you're nowhere to be seen when Arsenal lose and suddenly reappear when you win.
At least I wasn't the only one to notice that ;)

TheDaddy 22-01-2007 14:04
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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34202696)
Yes, well done - by the end of the season you'll have nothing to show for your efforts (again) other than 2 wins over the premiership champions :)
What like last season?

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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34203004)
Typical arsenal supporter, doesn't know anything :rolleyes: The reason both Ferguson, Redknapp and now Big Sam don't talk to the BBC is because of the documentaries that are full of rubbish that they have shown about them and in Fergies case his son. All three still talk to all other reporters and if you actually watched the match he talked to sky afterwards. If you have bothered to read any report of the match you will see comments made by Ferguson.
The thing they should remember is that fans and tv money have made them rich and given them the chance to become very rich household names, who are they hurting the BBC or the fans that want to hear their opinion on Match of the Day? Btw if that documentary was such rubbish why are 17 transfers now being investigated by the police? The whole Stevens report reeks of a cover up and people aren't fooled by this whitewash, imo people are sick to the back teeth of these overpaid pre Madonna's and this was an ideal opportunity to do something about it, that would hardly suit a lot of people with their hands in the sweetie jar though would it, so nothing will be done

sherer 22-01-2007 14:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34203168)
imo people are sick to the back teeth of these overpaid pre Madonna's and this was an ideal opportunity to do something about it, that would hardly suit a lot of people with their hands in the sweetie jar though would it, so nothing will be done
yes you are right there... take Lucas Neil he could have gone to Liverpool and got European football each season.. played with gerrard and improved as a player and fought for cups and titles

instead he has asked for too much money and will prob end up at West Ham going through the motions just to earn money

Shadow Demon UK 22-01-2007 14:16
Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34203168)
The thing they should remember is that fans and tv money have made them rich and given them the chance to become very rich household names, who are they hurting the BBC or the fans that want to hear their opinion on Match of the Day? Btw if that documentary was such rubbish why are 17 transfers now being investigated by the police? The whole Stevens report reeks of a cover up and people aren't fooled by this whitewash, imo people are sick to the back teeth of these overpaid pre Madonna's and this was an ideal opportunity to do something about it, that would hardly suit a lot of people with their hands in the sweetie jar though would it, so nothing will be done
Once again as i said before it's only the BBC that Ferguson doesn't talk to, if you want to know what he thinks there are hundreds of different sources out there to hear it from. The documentary about Ferguson's son was a while ago and i don't think its got anything to do with this police investigation going on at the moment, which i thought was more to do with the agents than the managers anyway?

TheDaddy 22-01-2007 14:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34203186)
Once again as i said before it's only the BBC that Ferguson doesn't talk to, if you want to know what he thinks there are hundreds of different sources out there to hear it from. The documentary about Ferguson's son was a while ago and i don't think its got anything to do with this police investigation going on at the moment, which i thought was more to do with the agents than the managers anyway?
You mentioned Ferguson, Redknapp and Sam all in the same sentence, which is why I referred to them all together

The reason both Ferguson, Redknapp and now Big Sam don't talk to the BBC is because of the documentaries that are full of rubbish that they have shown about them and in Fergies case his son

Pretty pointless really especially if you are innocent and I disagree I bet there are thousands of young kids who get up early on a Sunday morning to watch MotD and are constantly disappointed by their lack of interviews, they are the one's that pay the price, so they can make these principled stands.

Seems to me that the investigation was about corruption in football and imo the game is rife with it, needs overhauling from top to bottom and I be very shocked if you didn't think managers weren't on the take as well

Russ 22-01-2007 15:31
Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34203168)
What like last season?
Think so - what trophies did they win last year?

Shadow Demon UK 22-01-2007 15:35
Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34203212)
You mentioned Ferguson, Redknapp and Sam all in the same sentence, which is why I referred to them all together
Okay then, you can get the views and comments from Ferguson, Redknapp and Sam from hundreds of different sources other than the BBC. I think they are all well within their rights not to talk to people that in their opinions made up lies about them. I'm sure if people really want to hear what they say they can find their comments elsewhere including children and it's not as if no-one from each club talks to them it's just the manager, you still get to hear from all the players and the assistant manager who basically says the same thing that the manager would say. It's not as if it's damaged any of the managers reputations either, in fact those three are probably the most respected managers in the premiership. If a company made up comments about me that could threaten my career i would definitely not talk to them.

TheDaddy 22-01-2007 16:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34203249)
Think so - what trophies did they win last year?
Go on Russ I could do with a laugh, compare your league cup victory with being European Cup runners up again

sherer 22-01-2007 16:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34203278)
Go on Russ I could do with a laugh, compare your league cup victory with being European Cup runners up again
that was the first time you had been in the final of the European Cup so it wasn't again i'm afraid

still getting to that final IS harder than winning the League Cup

TheDaddy 22-01-2007 16:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34203252)
Okay then, you can get the views and comments from Ferguson, Redknapp and Sam from hundreds of different sources other than the BBC. I think they are all well within their rights not to talk to people that in their opinions made up lies about them. I'm sure if people really want to hear what they say they can find their comments elsewhere including children and it's not as if no-one from each club talks to them it's just the manager, you still get to hear from all the players and the assistant manager who basically says the same thing that the manager would say. It's not as if it's damaged any of the managers reputations either, in fact those three are probably the most respected managers in the premiership. If a company made up comments about me that could threaten my career i would definitely not talk to them.
They are well within their rights as are ordinary members of the public to take their business elsewhere, its no wonder where the players get their ego's and attitudes from is it, especially when one of the managers in question openly admitted in a newspaper interview that he accepted a bung/ gift of over a million pounds and if a company made groundless comments about me they would find themselves in court, wonder why the BBC haven't?

gazzae 22-01-2007 16:11
Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BBKing (Post 34203057)

As for overpriced players, our back four cost
Clichy - £250,000
Senderos - £1.3m
Toure - probably about £250,000
Eboue - £1.3m

Seems a pretty good deal, really, compared with Oops-There-Goes-The-Ball Rio Ferdinand.
Wasn't Senderos £2.5Mil?

TheDaddy 22-01-2007 16:12
Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34203281)
that was the first time you had been in the final of the European Cup so it wasn't again i'm afraid

still getting to that final IS harder than winning the League Cup
That must be the proverbial 'you' because I support one club, only one and it's not Arsenal

Shadow Demon UK 22-01-2007 16:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34203284)
They are well within their rights as are ordinary members of the public to take their business elsewhere, its no wonder where the players get their ego's and attitudes from is it, especially when one of the managers in question openly admitted in a newspaper interview that he accepted a bung/ gift of over a million pounds
I don't remeber that happening, do you have a source for that, if your story is true i would have thought Fifa would have done something about it.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34203284)
if a company made groundless comments about me they would find themselves in court, wonder why the BBC haven't?
Yes and it's strange why niether the FA or Fifa have followed up on the programme about Ferguson and his son.

TheDaddy 22-01-2007 17:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34203310)
I don't remeber that happening, do you have a source for that, if your story is true i would have thought Fifa would have done something about it.
The source is Harry Redknapp's own mouth, when we sold Rio to Leeds Terry Brown made him a 'gift' of a million pounds for aiding his development, at the time fans rightly imo, thought it was hush money because he was annoyed about the transfer one moment and brushing it of the next, when the FA saw the interview in the News of the World IIRC, they said they would hold an investigation as they classed it as a bung, nothing seems to have been done about it, maybe they have forgotten!

Russ 22-01-2007 18:06
Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34203278)
Go on Russ I could do with a laugh, compare your league cup victory with being European Cup runners up again
League cup victory AND coming second in the premiership. Question: what did Arsenal's trophy cabinet have at the end of the season that it didn't have at the start?

Answer: nothing.

TheDaddy 22-01-2007 18:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34203389)
League cup victory AND coming second in the premiership. Question: what did Arsenal's trophy cabinet have at the end of the season that it didn't have at the start?

Answer: nothing.
All you had in yours was the League Cup, a competition the real big boy's play their kids in, even Liverpool with no real prospect of winning anything this year couldn't be bothered, say's a lot.

Russ 22-01-2007 18:43
Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Runners up in the premiership to the guys who bought the title, hmm, not much of a success there eh?

yesman 22-01-2007 18:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34203426)
All you had in yours was the League Cup, a competition the real big boy's play their kids in, even Liverpool with no real prospect of winning anything this year couldn't be bothered, say's a lot.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

You must be on a wind-up mission, or the prozac has kicked in ;)

Shadow Demon UK 22-01-2007 18:49
Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34203426)
All you had in yours was the League Cup, a competition the real big boy's play their kids in, even Liverpool with no real prospect of winning anything this year couldn't be bothered, say's a lot.
Didn't we all have this argument before? :rolleyes:

If i remember correctly we actually played our second team for the majority of the cup run anyway.

TheDaddy 22-01-2007 20:50
Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34203429)
Runners up in the premiership to the guys who bought the title, hmm, not much of a success there eh?
Your right, not much success, certainly not enough to try and lord it over other team's, poxy league cup, what is that, one up from the charity shield

Russ 22-01-2007 20:56
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Hmm, not like you to respond to that!

Sugar coat it any way you like, Arsenal won nothing last year. United won a tournament (albeit not the most successful one) and came runners-up in the Prem (which if you think about it would have meant we'd have won the league that the russian not bought it) which might not be up to our traditional standards but still meant we had a better season than Arsenal - and let's face it that's all that counts! ;) :D

TheDaddy 22-01-2007 21:17
Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34203530)
Hmm, not like you to respond to that!

Sugar coat it any way you like, Arsenal won nothing last year. United won a tournament (albeit not the most successful one) and came runners-up in the Prem (which if you think about it would have meant we'd have won the league that the russian not bought it) which might not be up to our traditional standards but still meant we had a better season than Arsenal - and let's face it that's all that counts! ;) :D
I am really not sure what I'd prefer, runner up in the league or runner up in European Cup, one means you are consistent the other has a lot of prestige, it's a tricky one.

As for the league cup, I am just not going to talk about it anymore, it's a nonsense of a trophy, there is a reason why you played the mighty Wigan in the final, it's because they are the type of team the tournament is designed for, hence the quarter final the other night, Arsenal reserves against Liverpool reserves, they still treat it with the same amount of respect as you used to

Russ 22-01-2007 21:23
Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34203542)
I am really not sure what I'd prefer, runner up in the league or runner up in European Cup, one means you are consistent the other has a lot of prestige, it's a tricky one.
Euro Cup runners up are forgotten within weeks. Premiership runners-up will be referred to throughout the following season. The Prem is regarded by many as the greatest league in the world, so comparing that to the Euro Cup, I know which one I'd prefer.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34203542)
As for the league cup, I am just not going to talk about it anymore, it's a nonsense of a trophy, there is a reason why you played the mighty Wigan in the final, it's because they are the type of team the tournament is designed for, hence the quarter final the other night, Arsenal reserves against Liverpool reserves, they still treat it with the same amount of respect as you used to
No-one is going to suggest it's anywhere near the prestige of the FA Cup, but it meant we beat all the other teams involved to the cup. Other certain teams won nothing at all.

TheDaddy 22-01-2007 21:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34203184)
yes you are right there... take Lucas Neil he could have gone to Liverpool and got European football each season.. played with gerrard and improved as a player and fought for cups and titles

instead he has asked for too much money and will prob end up at West Ham going through the motions just to earn money

Neill has insisted his move was not dictated by money. The Australian said: "It wasn't about cash - that didn't come into it. It was about being wanted. West Ham were knocking down the door to get me whereas Liverpool made a take or leave it offer.

"People have said I put money before medals and how could I make a sideways move like this and not go to a club like Liverpool, who are always in the hunt for trophies and so much prestige.

"West Ham moved heaven and earth to sign me while Liverpool gave me the impression that I might not even get a game if I went there.

It sounds reasonable to me, although £60000 a week is a hell of a lot of money for him, looks like Kepo Blanco is about to sign as well, anyone know anything about him?

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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34203545)
Euro Cup runners up are forgotten within weeks. Premiership runners-up will be referred to throughout the following season. The Prem is regarded by many as the greatest league in the world, so comparing that to the Euro Cup, I know which one I'd prefer.
Surely it would be the same in the Champions League, providing you qualified the next year, they would refer to you as last seasons runners up to, you would definitely get more cash from Europe as well because it's a bonus and you could also point to the standard of opponent, you are hardly likely to face teams like Watford in the group stages or beyond

Russ 22-01-2007 21:35
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I suppose it's how you see it but I don't recall many commentators referring to the previous season's Euro runners up :shrug:


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