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The first direct arena :shrug:

what's the problem?

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PubeNews strikes again. Marks.

There was a live stream yesterday of him and rubber lips in West Sussex. I failed to gather enough interest to watch :no:

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eh :eh:

Sometimes it's like you use your very own Enigma machine :shrug:

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dfhjrangh :)

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A small town in Wales, twinned with a strange rock formation in Lanarkshire ;)

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Saville lived in Leeds and committed many of his crimes there...

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Seems like 'guilt by association' is how we still play the game :rolleyes:

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Funny there's a fella of similar name to that saying in Smallville, he can twist reality, so he'd probably fit right in with reform uk and their fans

I not playing any games, just proffering a possible logical explanation which may not even be correct, so make whatever connection to whatever to arrive at something you don't like you want

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I was stationed there…

(Digby, not MXSTPLK…)

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I will do, the same as you, otherwise you wouldn't have bothered with it :PP:

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It’s like Oscar Wilde has been reincarnated and joined Cable Forum… :D

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I've been likened to many people (or things), but Oscar Wilde is a first :erm:

:scratch: I may start a novel "The AI generated Dorian Gray"

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Whatever Oscar :)

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3l14d9wklo

Apparently "Leave means Leave"… :D

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Nice reader comment. One of those that demands a ‘this wins today’s internet’ reply.

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https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...0&d=1776513020

"Concern grows for Suella Braverman as she completely forgets she spent nine years as part of the Conservative government, including two periods as Home Secretary, responsible for immigration."

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Didn't she turn out to be a security concern while in power under the conservatives. That and she or her parents were immigrants. She might as well have come on a dinghy.

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Braverman was trying to change things from within the party but failed. That’s why she went over to Reform and it’s why they accepted her.

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LOL. :dunce:

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Don’t mention it. Glad to have been of help! :beer:

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Vote Reform UK - get the CCP (Chinese Communist Party)?
https://www.ft.com/content/477e904f-...syn-25a6b1a6=1

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Or vote labour and get people that can't see what's in front of there faces ,, can't add up. Vote green and try hypnosis for yourself. Vote plaid and get labour with a Welsh accent.
Or just waste it on lib Dems. When all said and done Trump did what he said he would as crazy as he is USA got what it voted for .

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I'm not sure you've understood the excerpt? It said "He remained in post after Beijing imposed a requirement that all civil servants formally declare their loyalty to the Hong Kong government as part of the People’s Republic of China — a demand that prompted thousands of other civil servants to resign or retire."

Important to also note that his boss, Hong Kong chief executive John Lee, said he would pursue dissidents ‘to the ends of the earth’.

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Not when it came to not starting wars or reducing prices he didn't.

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Probably not…

https://www.thetimes.com/article/803...ac3412fa1f1928

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That's why his approval ratings are so high, we'll see how happy people are with what they voted for in November

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The November midterms will be a complete bloodbath for the Republican party, I suspect losing control of the House is a given and possibly the Senate as well.

That assumes that the elections actually go ahead and Thump can’t find some reason to delay or cancel them. That might be a step too far even for his most loyal MAGA supporters - it may well be the push that Vance needs to involve the 25th Amendment and take over.

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...onaire-in-2024

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I believe Badenoch has referred him to the Standards Committee. Will be interesting to see how it develops.

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From the previously posted article

Yet six months later, he said he wouldn’t (and still hasn’t, nearly two years after being elected) hold Constitutency Surgeries due to "security concerns"…

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Clearly holding out for more foreign wonga before he contemplates holding any constituency surgeries

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There's no need to descend to that sort of personal abuse... ;)

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https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2026/05/1.gif

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An obvious choice when CITV closed. :D

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I'm confused, Reform are saying "Vote Green" :confused:

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https://votegreengetillegals.com/

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That still seems nonsensical to me, how do they expect to get into government if they tell people to vote Green.

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Shockingly they want their cake and eat it, they're telling people that the greens will let anyone in but reform will save the day by removing the ones already here and that their voters won't have to put up with having detention centres in their constituencies, it'll work too I'll bet

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They're trying to prevent people from voting Green by saying that, if Green win, that this will result in more illegal immigrants. If Reform win then they will create detention centres and deliberately put them in areas where Green did win.

This lack of professionalism shows how worried Refirm are, now that their support is waning & the Green vote is rising. It's the sort of immature/spiteful language/policy that you'd expect from Trump.

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Seriously, is that how you read it? Who wants illegals in their back yard?

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Not according to the latest poll.

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Seems sky news via You Gov disagrees with you. Check it out this morning

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History repeats it's self , discription so fits labour , talk the talk won't , can't or just too divided to walk the walk.

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Most of those Tory “losers” left the Tories and joined Reform.

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The trouble is Reform UK is stuffed full of Tory rejects who are unlikely to get on well with the current Conservative Party. And Reform UK's USP of not being Labour or Conservative falls apart if they do work tactically together. I don't think the Labour Party has a similar issue with current and former MPs joining the Green Party, but I could be wrong.

It's looking like an interesting five-horse race in the next General Election so a coalition government could well be a possibility. Certainbly Reform UK or any other party governing on its own with just 25% of the vote would not go down well. But a coalition of Reform with another political party would undermine its USP. I'm not sure how you square the circle on these two points as Reform UK's share of the vote is unlikely to grow much given it's competing with four other parties, particularly as Badnoch is taking advantage of Starmer's political ineptitude.

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That’s easy to say. Rolls off the tongue and it’s tempting.

But the three I listed are self-serving and were more incompetent that Jenrick &, dare I say, Braverman. Zahawi - yes, loser imo.


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You are absolutely right. More’s the pity for the least worse solution in getting Labour out and avoiding a hung Parliament.

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I don’t agree. Reform UK has taken on those right wing Conservatives who have become disillusioned with the failure of the party to deal with the issues they care about. They got shouted down when they tried to point out the obvious.

Reform UK is a United party, not split between left and right, which is something that has plagued Labour and Conservatives alike with their obsession with pleasing the middle ground. The only real opposition Reform has got comes from other right wing parties, most notably the Conservatives, who for the time being at least have lost credibility.

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Err, how else to you read "Vote Green" :dozey:

Maybe you need a new pair of glasses. :erm:

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Well only if you stop reading after the first line.

It is fairly obvious to me (and it appears many others on here) but maybe it should have been reworded to;

'Vote Green, and you absolutely WILL get illegals’

Just to avoid any confusion, it is obviously saying that ‘by all means vote Green if you want, but Reform will be the next government and will make sure that all the camps*, sorry detention centres, will only be placed in Green-voting areas.’

Now maybe Green-party voters will have the courage of their convictions, they support immigration and so certainly won’t mind having these camps, sorry again, detention centres, in their locale. In reality, I suspect a degree of NIMBYism will come into play here.

It could well be a fairly effective scare tactic, but they can backfire, offering threats rather than positives and improvements doesn’t always work.

Actually, if the inmates aren’t allowed to leave, then does it matter where they are? Will Reform only have prisons in Liberal voting areas?

The more I think about it the less sure I am that this was well thought through.


* There will need to be an inspiring inscription/motto above the gates, I’ll leave it as a exercise for the reader to think of one.

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Foreigners! Donate generously to Reform UK or end up here!

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Don't forget they can hypnosis 50% or so to change there body shape. If you vote for a leader that says this you would vote for anything that they say. I think that Wales will be in a right mess come Friday. So is it plaid cymru and the greens or labour . Because reform are not going to get a majority. . Must start house hunting in channel islands again.

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Perhaps you omitted to read the full message: ‘Vote Green - get illegals’!

Do you think that is a positive message to vote Green? Do you think that encouraging illegal migrants is a vote winner?

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Clearly some people welcome them , I wonder how many miles they live from there homes :erm:

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There is no dash, or exclamation mark. ;)

Yes, of course I stopped there.
VOTE GREEN, right there in big letters, no one cares about anything after that (esp small print).:erm:

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Its on different lines, so not read as one.
When you're driving past that, or even walking past it, the FIRST LINE is what counts.

What does "Get Illegals" even mean ?
Go out and get some ? What's an "illegal" ?

If you dont get the point its a complete fail by now, you never will (or just dont want to).

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I thought this was a clear policy statement. See that sky reports yet another apology from there leader for misleading the party , question , would that also tellingl fibs. This man makes. Boris look like honest John

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A u turn :shocking:

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It’s probably the killing of Gazan civilians that "annoys" the "said kids", rather than the terrorists.

(but you probably knew that…)

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Are these the same kids that can't (legally) drink, smoke, drive a car, have no bill worries (living with parents), and spend all day on TikTok?

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It’s probably might be the same kids who work, pay taxes, join the Armed Forces, drive a car or have a private pilot’s license (if they’re 17), get married, get a passport, give blood, etc., etc.. ;)

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It depends on where the 'experts' decide your age means you're not a kid, but a young adult . . 15, 16, 18, 21 . . ??

oh, and responsible, for what that's worth

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Yes I would agree with you, legally a person becomes an adult with full ‘autonomy’ at 18. But it is understood that an individual doesn’t instantly change from a child to a full adult on a particular day.

Young adult is vague, probably rightly so, so can’t have a hard and fast line. So yes a 17 year old can join the armed forces, but not sent into a combat zone, a 16 year old can legally have sex with a partner but not appear in a porn video for others to watch; or indeed view porn, (which does seem slightly odd, you can do it but not see it; but OK I’ll run with it).

Yes, I agree the various ages are somewhat arbitrary, but you can’t do much else.

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I think that says more about you (evidenced by your posts on here, you appear to view things either/or, rather than faceted/shaded), than about 16-17 year olds; also, anecdata should not inform policy…

Not sure "gerrymander" is emotive enough - why not use "steal"?

Also, what makes you think that the 1.63 million 16-17 olds are a homogeneous group? A poll last year showed them prospectively voting Labour at 28%, followed by the Greens on 26% and the Liberal Democrats on 20%. In contrast, the Conservatives were on 9% and Reform UK on 8%.

I don’t understand how over 68% of 16-17 year olds prospectively not voting for Labour is "gerrymandering"…

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They have in Wales:shocked:

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"It wasn't till I had a house and family, that my political tendencies switched from Labour to Conservative - around 24 years of age.”

Of course, you must be aware of the old sentiment “if you are not a socialist in your teens, then you have no heart...but if you still a socialist in your thirties, you have no brain”.

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And if you're still socialist in you're 50's, you're a really nice person, unlike everyone else ;)

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lf is doing a lot of heavy lifting. So much so that anything after it may be ignored. ;)

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But they are predominantly left wing parties. Young people tend to be idealists, not understanding as much as they think they do, heavily influenced by what their left wing teachers have been telling them.

As they start to get life experience, many of those who understand the need to work for a living start to change their minds about where they stand politically. Becoming better off starts to be an aspiration, so they know where their loyalties should lie.

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As a teenager I didn't give two monkeys about politics, it was all music, football, girls and drinking (in no particular order).

Similar to Seph, politics reared it's head a few years after getting married and buying a house. Unlike Seph, my interest in who did what when and why in politics soon waned and that crock of shit got ignored while I got on with life.

Never really had any time for people who can't answer a question without resorting to vague and meaningless gobbledygook, especially mature supposedly intelligent people that argue like school kids scoring points in the playground when discussing how to run a damn country.

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Mine did. As I got older and began to see the inequalities in the UK mostly because of the sod you as long as I'm alright attitude of the right of centre parties and the quest for ever greater profits at the expense of the people who are actually out there earning those profits.

I think we should be a more compassionate and inclusive society and certainly don't like seeing the hatred that seems to be becoming the accepted face of the 'civilised' country we profess to be.

Call me a lefty if you want - I really don't care.

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We pay our staff very well , and yes at the end of the day if it's case of staff or family. then sod the staff. Yes they know this and guess what, we treat them so very well few leave the "firm" before they retire

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Whilst all eyes are on No 10, Farage is now being investigated for his undeclared £5m gift.

https://www.ft.com/content/3ac372a0-...syn-25a6b1a6=1

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Oh, come on!

Who amongst us has not received a £5,000,000 gift from an overseas-based crypto billionaire with no strings attached?

I mean, it’s obviously a pure coincidence, and there is no reason to believe that when he said on the 23rd of May 2025 he wasn’t going to stand as a Candidate in the upcoming General Election, him receiving an undeclared £5,000,000 donation in late May 2024, and then stating on the 4th of June 2024 he was going to stand as a Candidate in Clacton and become (again) Leader of Reform UK, that there is any connection between those events…

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These things can happen to anyone. And Christopher Harbornen is a genuinely patriotic Brit who just chooses to live in another country. He doesn't care if a Farage-led government deregulates cryto-currencies, that's just a coincidence.

The left-wing media are just picking on Farage because they want us to be ruled from Brussels! :D

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I've never had a penny, although had a few offers of a share of £20 million if I help the son of a cousin of a prominent Algerian official move some illicit funds out of their country.

;)

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Ah, you’re obviously not a "man of the people", like privately-educated ex-City Trader Coutts Bank account holder private jet flying million pound a year earner like our Nige…

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It's all getting a bit messy between Farage and his former deputy Habib, with the latter making allegations of Farage throwing the 2019 election and Farage's lawyers writing to Habib.
https://www.thecanary.co/trending/20...ction-rigging/

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Mine was only £4,000,000. :D

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You said it was only a few quid on the lottery :shocked:

;)