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jfman 19-10-2022 19:59
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36137624)
This is now individual manoeuvring. Truss’ government is toxic and is unlikely to last a few weeks.

Braverman probably wants a position in the next PM’s cabinet, better to jump now.
Almost certainly. I wonder who decided Shapps should be in - Acting PM Hunt? If there’s a Sunak/Mordaunt/Hunt coup in the offing that could be good for his career.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36137625)
If the Conservative Party was a pet, you'd take it to the vets to get it put down. It's a real hits show.
Freudian?

1andrew1 19-10-2022 20:04
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36137626)
Freudian?
Poor typing! :D

Pierre 19-10-2022 20:09
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36137626)
If there’s a Sunak/Mordaunt/Hunt coup in the offing that could be good for his career.
That would almost certainly seem to be the ticket going forward, I don’t know how they get there constitutionally, though.

Hugh 19-10-2022 20:09
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
1 Attachment(s)
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1666202975

https://twitter.com/peston/status/15...W4WQlBRoeNEgbA

Less like U-turns, more like doughnutting…

https://tenor.com/view/donut-gif-6364043

Dave42 19-10-2022 20:19
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status...97972118851590

Quote:
One senior Conservative source telling me that the chief whip has gone. NOT confirmed

1andrew1 19-10-2022 20:47
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Chris Bryant (Chair, Standards Committee) calls for investigation into bullying and manhandling in the "no" lobby. Vote results held up as a result of problems there, government won fracking vote by 96 votes.

Quote:
Sam Coates (Sky)
The speaker Lindsay Hoyle is waiting for a report from Eleanor Laing about what happened in the lobbies but is understood to be taking it very seriously. He's seen the Chris Bryant photo.
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/sta...04424149594114

Quote:
Ava-Santina (Politics Joe)
Chris Bryant is currently telling @SamCoatesSky on Sky among the “manhandlers” were cabinet ministers Jacob Rees-Mogg and Thérèse Coffey
https://twitter.com/AvaSantina/statu...02758528212992

Dave42 19-10-2022 21:11
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
https://twitter.com/christopherhope/...83926346870784

Quote:
If you thought tonight was sticky for Liz Truss and her credibility wait for Suella Braverman’s resignation statement to the House of Commons

TheDaddy 19-10-2022 21:33
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36137630)

Less like U-turns, more like doughnutting…
Dizzy by name dizzy by nature, good job she's as strong and robust as she keeps telling us or goodness knows what state the country would be in

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36137633)
Chris Bryant (Chair, Standards Committee) calls for investigation into bullying and manhandling in the "no" lobby. Vote results held up as a result of problems there, government won fracking vote by 96 votes.
Speaking as a man the last two I'd want handling me would be those two, surprised rees smug is up to the job tbh, coffey must be the muscle or else smug wouldn't have teeth left

Dingbat 19-10-2022 21:34
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
MP Charles Walker sums it all up.

https://twitter.com/danjohnsonnews/s...5Ip8HyRehJiTAw

Hugh 19-10-2022 21:36
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Tory MPs told the BBC that chief whip Wendy Morton, and the deputy chief whip, are no longer in post.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63322533

1andrew1 19-10-2022 21:37
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36137643)
Speaking as a man the last two I'd want handling me would be those two, surprised rees smug is up to the job tbh, coffey must be the muscle or else smug wouldn't have teeth left
Yes, Reess-Mogg probably needed a lie down after that work.

Hugh 19-10-2022 21:47
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
1 Attachment(s)
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...6&d=1666208837

Dave42 19-10-2022 22:20
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
A senior Conservative MP who is also a doctor tells me: “I’d now be calling in the relatives to say it is hours not days.” #LizTrussPM
https://twitter.com/christopherhope/...08564472553473

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36137644)
well said Charles Walker

jfman 19-10-2022 22:33
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
How long before inflation is outpolling Truss?

Sephiroth 19-10-2022 22:53
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Time for the King to step in. LOL. Bad though he is ....

Mick 19-10-2022 23:35
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
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https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1666215265

Dave42 19-10-2022 23:48
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36137657)
there is no way she going to last another 76 days

mrmistoffelees 20-10-2022 00:01
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36137648)
https://twitter.com/christopherhope/...08564472553473

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well said Charles Walker
Give him a shot as PM, he certainly couldn’t do worse, possibly the most honest passionate words to come out of a Tory mouth since…..?

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Sky news reporting that No10 are saying chief and deputy whip remain in post

Schrödingers whip ?

Sephiroth 20-10-2022 00:18
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36137661)
Give him a shot as PM, he certainly couldn’t do worse, possibly the most honest passionate words to come out of a Tory mouth since…..?<SNIP>
Me.

Ms NTL 20-10-2022 00:29
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36137548)
How long will this commitment last
A week or so. Until the new chancellor gets appointed.

TheDaddy 20-10-2022 01:03
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36137659)
there is no way she going to last another 76 days
It's a bit harsh anyway, Canning was brilliant and died in office, blunder truss should at least survive her time in office even if her credibility doesn't

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ms NTL (Post 36137664)
A week or so. Until the new chancellor gets appointed.
Joy, another new chancellor awaits

papa smurf 20-10-2022 09:09
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
What are the rules on severance pay for ministers?
The law says that people holding various eligible paid positions in government and the opposition are entitled to a quarter of their salary in severance pay when they leave the job. This includes all ministers, but not parliamentary private secretaries or trade envoys, who are unpaid.

Who's next on the gravy train



What are the payments worth?
Based on the current figures:

the Prime Minister will receive £18,860 (a quarter of £75,440)
a Cabinet Minister will receive £16,876.25 (a quarter of £67,505)
a Minister of State will receive £7,920 (a quarter of £31,680)
a Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State will receive £5,593.75 (a quarter of £22,375)


https://fullfact.org/law/ministers-severance-pay/

jfman 20-10-2022 09:30
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Frosty the snowman says she has to go. His amazing judgement continues to excel.

mrmistoffelees 20-10-2022 09:38
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Who made the Shapps appointment.... ? I doubt Truss

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36137663)
Me.
:erm: :rofl:

1andrew1 20-10-2022 10:45
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36137676)
Who made the Shapps appointment.... ? I doubt Truss
Worth reading this Sky News article on who's in charge.

https://news.sky.com/story/liz-truss...ybody-12725169

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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36137675)
Frosty the snowman says she has to go. His amazing judgement continues to excel.
There's an argument that she should be propped up until least November so that the announcements on 31 October can be made to stabilise the markets.

There's another argument around that she should be let go of as soon as possible so as to stabilise the markets.

Frosty lost all credibility in my eyes when he criticised his own trade deal but doubtless was a muppett prior to that.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36137668)
Joy, another new chancellor awaits
I'm not sure the markets would react favourably to another chancellor being appointed after Hunt has presented a credible front to the markets.

papa smurf 20-10-2022 10:47
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
If only we could go back to the good old days when the only problem was a slice of cake ........

Hugh 20-10-2022 11:09
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/stat...H2Sg4g_-m4wIDA

Quote:
Pippa Crerar @PippaCrerar

⏰We start the morning where we left off last night… with govt in chaos.

No 10 sent statement at 1.33am saying fracking vote *was* a confidence vote after all.

Tory MPs who broke whip will face “disciplinary action”.
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/stat...H2Sg4g_-m4wIDA

Quote:
UPDATE: transport secretary Ann Marie Trevelyan on @SkyNews appears to contradict 1.30am message from No 10.

She doesn’t confirm what disciplinary action will be taken against MPs - if any.

Was it a confidence vote? “No. It was a very important vote.”

jfman 20-10-2022 11:35
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36137683)
Worth reading this Sky News article on who's in charge.

https://news.sky.com/story/liz-truss...ybody-12725169

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There's an argument that she should be propped up until least November so that the announcements on 31 October can be made to stabilise the markets.

There's another argument around that she should be let go of as soon as possible so as to stabilise the markets.

Frosty lost all credibility in my eyes when he criticised his own trade deal but doubtless was a muppett prior to that.

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I'm not sure the markets would react favourably to another chancellor being appointed after Hunt has presented a credible front to the markets.
The argument to hang onto her is solely a political one. She’s just a human shield to roll out the bad news stories to give the new leader a clean slate.

The question is how far she can drag down the party in the polls between now and then.

It’s times like this you wish a former poster, but still an avid reader, was still around to give us the inside lines from CCHQ.

1andrew1 20-10-2022 11:49
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36137693)
The argument to hang onto her is solely a political one. She’s just a human shield to roll out the bad news stories to give the new leader a clean slate.

The question is how far she can drag down the party in the polls between now and then.

It’s times like this you wish a former poster, but still an avid reader, was still around to give us the inside lines from CCHQ.
It seems that there's 15%-20% of the electorate who support the Conservative Party like people support football clubs and will vote for it regardless.

On that basis, she can probably not drag the Party down much lower so keep her in place to get the flack for the broken promises upcoming in the October 31 Autumn Budget, reassure the markets and make a new start after that.

I can understand why the poster you elude to is avoiding posting on the the Forum; the lines eminating from CCHQ must be contradictory and bewildering.

mrmistoffelees 20-10-2022 12:02
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Can we prepend the thread title with 'Is' and append it with '?'

GrimUpNorth 20-10-2022 12:21
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36137699)
Can we prepend the thread title with 'Is' and append it with '?'
Or futureproof the thread and change it to just 'The Prime Minister'

Mick 20-10-2022 12:23
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
BREAKING: The list of current Conservative MPs publicly calling for Liz Truss to resign as Prime Minister, has risen to 14.

GrimUpNorth 20-10-2022 12:25
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36137703)
BREAKING: The list of current Conservative MPs publicly calling for Liz Truss to resign as Prime Minister, has risen to 14.
This is so embarrassing. As a country we're better than this.

mrmistoffelees 20-10-2022 12:53
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36137705)
This is so embarrassing. As a country we're better than this.
Are we though? We collectively voted this bunch of muppets in, and the only alternative is another bunch of muppets who may or may not be slightly less muppety.......

The british public on a whole seems to be apathetic to the state of politics, preferring instead to focus on 'here's three new things you never knew you could do on your iphone' , 'Mrs. Miggins five minute kitchen clean that will make it sparkle' & 'healthcare assistant from dumfries transforms kitchen using B&M buys'

Dave42 20-10-2022 12:55
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status...49128216449026

Quote:
Graham Brady has gone into No 10
end is near surely

Chris 20-10-2022 12:58
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36137712)
Was he carrying a rifle and a big curtain? :D

papa smurf 20-10-2022 12:59
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36137712)
Do you think she'll chuck him out of the party

Dave42 20-10-2022 13:09
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
https://twitter.com/theousherwood/st...51901779988481

Quote:
Getting the impression senior people in Number 10 know the game is up.

TheDaddy 20-10-2022 13:10
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Wonder if they're smart enough/ can be bothered to wriggle out of this mess, a coronation or blunder woman staying in charge of the party but giving up being pm, they've done both before

GrimUpNorth 20-10-2022 13:11
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
The BBC are saying they understand she requested the meeting.

jfman 20-10-2022 13:13
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36137720)
The BBC are saying they understand she requested the meeting.
She would say that tho…

papa smurf 20-10-2022 13:14
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36137720)
The BBC are saying they understand she requested the meeting.
Has he cleared his desk

denphone 20-10-2022 13:27
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36137712)
PM's deputy and closest ally Therese Coffey has gone into the back of No 10.


https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status...56722301661184

Dingbat 20-10-2022 13:42
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36137713)
Was he carrying a rifle and a big curtain? :D
Thought the tradition was a revolver and a bottle of scotch.

daveeb 20-10-2022 13:48
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36137724)
PM's deputy and closest ally Therese Coffey has gone into the back of No 10.


https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status...56722301661184
Maybe after getting her Christmas cigars early before it's too late.

Sephiroth 20-10-2022 14:04
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36137711)
Are we though? We collectively voted this bunch of muppets in, and the only alternative is another bunch of muppets who may or may not be slightly less muppety.......

The british public on a whole seems to be apathetic to the state of politics, preferring instead to focus on 'here's three new things you never knew you could do on your iphone' , 'Mrs. Miggins five minute kitchen clean that will make it sparkle' & 'healthcare assistant from dumfries transforms kitchen using B&M buys'
This makes the point that the country better than bumbles on without government. Business does business, doctors treat patients; buses and trains run (subject to strikes), electricity flow, water flows, etc.

With government in place, you'd be lucky to get a doctor appointment; electricity is at risk; sewage gets into our rivers; train drivers go on strike, etc.

It wasn't much different at various times, with various governments, in the past.

1andrew1 20-10-2022 14:12
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
1 Attachment(s)
Indeed!

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...8&d=1666267902

https://twitter.com/davidyelland/sta...77259949056000

Damien 20-10-2022 14:16
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
I've been against the talk of an election after another leader change because that's not how this country works and it's also dangerous to make it a precedent, bad PMs would be kept because the MPs don't want an election, but this is such a mess I can't see how the Tories can morally justify not holding one.

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Downing Street statement at 1:30

Sephiroth 20-10-2022 14:16
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36137733)
I've been against the talk of an election after another leader change because that's not how this country works and it's also dangerous to make it a precedent, bad PMs would be kept because the MPs don't want an election, but this is such a mess I can't see how the Tories can morally justify not holding one.

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Downing Street statement at 1:30
Exciting.

1andrew1 20-10-2022 14:17
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
1.30pm statement from No 10
https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1583069523900784640

I guess it's that she's sorry for yesterday but is determined to deliver her agenda eg energy cap.

Mick 20-10-2022 14:17
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
NEW: Tory MPs publicly calling on Liz Truss to resign now stands at 16, which is 2 more in last 30 minutes. 10 in total today alone.

Dave42 20-10-2022 14:17
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36137733)
I've been against the talk of an election after another leader change because that's not how this country works and it's also dangerous to make it a precedent, bad PMs would be kept because the MPs don't want an election, but this is such a mess I can't see how the Tories can morally justify not holding one.[COLOR="Silver"]

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[/COLOR]Downing Street statement at 1:30
it got to be over

jfman 20-10-2022 14:20
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
:rofl:

denphone 20-10-2022 14:20
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36137738)
it got to be over
Highly likely given the political momentum.

Mick 20-10-2022 14:24
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
BREAKING: Police outriders arrive at 10 Downing Street where PM Liz Truss is due to make statement at 1:30pm.

Is she resigning right away?

Dave42 20-10-2022 14:31
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36137741)
BREAKING: Police outriders arrive at 10 Downing Street where PM Liz Truss is due to make statement at 1:30pm.

Is she resigning right away?
Beth Rigby saying she going to resign

denphone 20-10-2022 14:32
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36137737)
NEW: Tory MPs publicly calling on Liz Truss to resign now stands at 16, which is 2 more in last 30 minutes. 10 in total today alone.
17 now.

Mick 20-10-2022 14:33
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
BREAKING: Senior Tory MP source: PM is resigning !

Dave42 20-10-2022 14:35
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
confirmed she resigned leadership election to last a week

denphone 20-10-2022 14:35
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Leadership election in the next week.

Chris 20-10-2022 14:36
Re: Liz Truss Resigns [Who'll be the next Prime Minister?]
 
Parting is such sweet sorrow. Or so I’m told.

mrmistoffelees 20-10-2022 14:36
Re: Liz Truss Resigns [Who'll be the next Prime Minister?]
 
Lettuce, wins !

denphone 20-10-2022 14:38
Re: Liz Truss Resigns [Who'll be the next Prime Minister?]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36137751)
Lettuce, wins !
And only 60p.

Damien 20-10-2022 14:38
Re: Liz Truss Resigns [Who'll be the next Prime Minister?]
 
The shortest PM in history but quite a long way! Spectacular failure.

mrmistoffelees 20-10-2022 14:38
Re: Liz Truss Resigns [Who'll be the next Prime Minister?]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36137752)
And only 60p.
65p now

Dave42 20-10-2022 14:38
Re: Liz Truss Resigns [Who'll be the next Prime Minister?]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36137753)
The shortest PM in history but quite a long way! Spectacular failure.
and the worst ever too

Chris 20-10-2022 14:42
Re: Liz Truss Resigns [Who'll be the next Prime Minister?]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36137755)
and the worst ever too
Is she though? Sure she made one calamitous decision but someone else will shortly reverse it in its entirety and there will be no long-term damage to the nation, no matter how awful things are in the short term. She was a one-woman disaster area but surely too short lived to be judged “worst ever”.

I’m kind of surprised, given your political preferences expressed on this forum, that you would judge this worse than the irreversible, structural reforms of the Thatcher years.

Jaymoss 20-10-2022 14:44
Re: Liz Truss Resigns [Who'll be the next Prime Minister?]
 
I would have said Blair taking the country to war on a lie is pretty much worse as a lot of death resulted from the decision

or Chamberlain thinking he had negotiated peace with Hitler

TheDaddy 20-10-2022 14:45
Re: Liz Truss Resigns [Who'll be the next Prime Minister?]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36137724)
PM's deputy and closest ally Therese Coffey has gone into the back of No 10.


https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status...56722301661184
She can't go, she's got all those prescription drugs to shift

Pierre that you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36137753)
The shortest PM in history but quite a long way! Spectacular failure.
and she's not fit to shine the huckle handles of the man she's beaten to this dubious record

mrmistoffelees 20-10-2022 14:47
Re: Liz Truss Resigns [Who'll be the next Prime Minister?]
 
'Truss beaten by the Romainers.'

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Jeremy Hunt announces he won't stand

Chris 20-10-2022 14:48
Re: Liz Truss Resigns [Who'll be the next Prime Minister?]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36137757)
I would have said Blair taking the country to war on a lie is pretty much worse as a lot of death resulted from the decision

or Chamberlain thinking he had negotiated peace with Hitler
Exactly. Liz Truss might well have been the least suitable for the job, but the award for “worst ever” requires a substantial track record plus some historical perspective.

Mick 20-10-2022 14:50
Re: Liz Truss Resigns [Who'll be the next Prime Minister?]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36137759)
'Truss beaten by the Romainers.'

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Jeremy Hunt announces he won't stand
Let’s not turn this is to a Brexit fight. The only person who beat, Truss, was Truss.

Dave42 20-10-2022 14:52
Re: Liz Truss Resigns [Who'll be the next Prime Minister?]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36137762)
Let’s not turn this is to a Brexit fight. The only person who beat, Truss, was Truss.
totally agree 100% Mick

Damien 20-10-2022 14:54
Re: Liz Truss Resigns [Who'll be the next Prime Minister?]
 
I think we'll keep this thread going for now btw, we can't keep starting a thread every time we get a new PM.

mrmistoffelees 20-10-2022 14:56
Re: Liz Truss Resigns [Who'll be the next Prime Minister?]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36137762)
Let’s not turn this is to a Brexit fight. The only person who beat, Truss, was Truss.
Apologies it was intended as light hearted silliness

1andrew1 20-10-2022 14:58
Re: Liz Truss Resigns [Who'll be the next Prime Minister?]
 
I should have known that as soon as she said she was a fighter and not a quitter that she would quit! My bad. :dunce:

Kursk 20-10-2022 15:00
Re: Liz Truss Resigns [Who'll be the next Prime Minister?]
 
I empathise with (former) Prime Minister Truss. Only Boris can save us (and the party) now.

Jaymoss 20-10-2022 15:00
Re: Liz Truss Resigns [Who'll be the next Prime Minister?]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36137767)
I should have known that as soon as she said she was a fighter and not a quitter that she would quit! My bad. :dunce:
yeah seen more flip flopping from her than the carp that I dropped last week

Dave42 20-10-2022 15:00
Re: Liz Truss Resigns [Who'll be the next Prime Minister?]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36137756)
Is she though? Sure she made one calamitous decision but someone else will shortly reverse it in its entirety and there will be no long-term damage to the nation, no matter how awful things are in the short term. She was a one-woman disaster area but surely too short lived to be judged “worst ever”.

I’m kind of surprised, given your political preferences expressed on this forum, that you would judge this worse than the irreversible, structural reforms of the Thatcher years.
yes it going to get reversed Chris but it come at a massive cost and austerity on steroids that is coming to pay for it and mortgage hike too.

even Thatcher would not go that far

Mick 20-10-2022 15:02
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BREAKING: The Pound has surged on news of Liz Truss resignation.

1andrew1 20-10-2022 15:05
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I'm guessing Sunak as PM, Hunt remains as Chancellor.

Can understand why Truss agreed to the triple lock yesterday - she knew there was a chance she won't be around when it doesn't happen.

Chris 20-10-2022 15:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36137759)
'Truss beaten by the Romainers.'
Was this a typo or a very subtle and arch lettuce reference?

mrmistoffelees 20-10-2022 15:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36137774)
Was this a typo or a very subtle and arch lettuce reference?
Lettuce reference :)

Just, cos.....

Mick 20-10-2022 15:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36137773)
I'm guessing Sunak as PM, Hunt remains as Chancellor.

Can understand why Truss agreed to the triple lock yesterday - she knew there was a chance she won't be around when it doesn't happen.
The sticking point remains with Sunak, the Conservatives outed Boris because he received a Fixed Penalty notice for breaching Covid rules. Well, so did Sunak, so what was the whole point of this upheaval, if Sunak gets crowned leader. Sorry but if he gets in, I’m still insisting on a General Election.

Chris 20-10-2022 15:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36137775)
Lettuce reference :)

Just, cos.....
Nice(berg)

:D

Hugh 20-10-2022 15:14
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If Rees-Mogg stands for Leader, I wonder if this will be his campaign poster?

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...9&d=1666271582

h/t @RedFiveModels

mrmistoffelees 20-10-2022 15:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36137777)
Nice(berg)

:D
:D:D:D:D:D

papa smurf 20-10-2022 15:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36137776)
The sticking point remains with Sunak, the Conservatives outed Boris because he received a Fixed Penalty notice for breaching Covid rules. Well, so did Sunak, so what was the whole point of this upheaval, if Sunak gets crowned leader. Sorry but if he gets in, I’m still insisting on a General Election.
No way i can support Sunak

jfman 20-10-2022 15:16
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A banana republic without the bananas.

Julian 20-10-2022 15:17
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Titanic Tories sunk by Iceberg

denphone 20-10-2022 15:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36137780)
No way i can support Sunak
Sunak is the red hot favourite with the bookmakers.

Damien 20-10-2022 15:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36137776)
The sticking point remains with Sunak, the Conservatives outed Boris because he received a Fixed Penalty notice for breaching Covid rules. Well, so did Sunak, so what was the whole point of this upheaval, if Sunak gets crowned leader. Sorry but if he gets in, I’m still insisting on a General Election.
Johnson was ultimately outed more because he lied several times about the parties rather than the fine itself. Even then he probably survived that but after the Pincher stuff came out, and he lied again, which was the final straw.

Sunak can move past the fine alone.

jfman 20-10-2022 15:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36137786)
Johnson was ultimately outed more because he lied several times about the parties rather than the fine itself. Even then he probably survived that but after the Pincher stuff came out, and he lied again, which was the final straw.
Voters realised he wasn’t just sticking two fingers up at the system he was sticking two fingers up at them too.

Quote:
Sunak can move past the fine alone.
Easily. But the green card and his wife’s tax position less so.

Dave42 20-10-2022 15:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36137784)
Sunak is the red hot favourite with the bookmakers.
he was last time Den and Graham Brandy said tory member will get a vote and we know what happened last 2 times the members voted they wont vote for Sunak IMHO even though he was proved right and said what would happen

jfman 20-10-2022 15:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36134474)
She may have a few crowd pleasers, Mr K, but don’t assume she cannot multi-task.

Liz Truss has a huge agenda, and she should be judged on her ability to navigate it successfully.

I think that is most likely to be what the electorate will do come polling day.
:sniper:

Hugh 20-10-2022 15:47
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Liz Truss spent more time applying for the job than she spent doing it…

Candidacy announced 10th July, result announced 5th September - 58 days.

Time in office 6th September until 27th October - 52 days

Mick 20-10-2022 15:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36137786)
Johnson was ultimately outed more because he lied several times about the parties rather than the fine itself. Even then he probably survived that but after the Pincher stuff came out, and he lied again, which was the final straw.

Sunak can move past the fine alone.
I won’t and neither should the rest of the country. I’m actually agreeing with Keir Starmer, (Somebody bloody pinch me) that we can’t keep having a revolving door, with Tory experiments with Tory Prime ministers and chancellors etc etc.

papa smurf 20-10-2022 15:54
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Bojo considering entering race to be next PM

TheDaddy 20-10-2022 15:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36137761)
Exactly. Liz Truss might well have been the least suitable for the job, but the award for “worst ever” requires a substantial track record plus some historical perspective.
Remind me, didn't she encourage British citizens to fight in Ukraine, thus not only putting them in danger but also breaking UK law, that was her wasn't it? She has a substantial track record, all of it abysmal, only good thing is she's gone before she could do any more damage, still let's see who is foisted on the public this time with 0.2% at best of the publics approval

Mick 20-10-2022 15:55
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BREAKING: Former Prime Minister Boris Johnson to run again as leader.


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