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1andrew1 10-02-2022 10:39

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36113019)
I thought all this had been kicked into the long grass?

The Met has been requested to open an enquiry. Their previous excuse that potential crimes that happened in the past could not be investigated has been found wanting.

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36113020)
You know how it works … just a friendly understanding that he’ll pick up the phone when they call.

It looks like Beijing enjoys productive relations with some Conservative MPs so I'm surprised they bothered with that guy. Here's some previously undisclosed PPE providers that accessed the VIP lane:

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  • PPE contracts worth £173 million were awarded to China Meheco Co. Ltd and Winner Medical, both of whom have been linked to Uighur human rights abuses in Xinjiang. Government has previously misled the public about other aspects of the deal
  • Shenzen-based oil and gas firm Jason Offshore Equipment was handed a £25 million contract in June 2020. 18 months later, the DHSC still hasn’t published the contract, directly contradicting Boris Johnson’s claims in Parliament that all PPE contracts were now “on the record”.
  • A £96 million contract awarded to Beijing Union Glory Investment Co. Ltd – a firm that operated out of a hotel room in Beijing.
  • State-controlled China National Instruments Import & Export Group landed three contracts worth £130,000,000.

https://goodlawproject.org/news/mini...ed-parliament/

Hugh 10-02-2022 10:56

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36113020)
You know how it works … just a friendly understanding that he’ll pick up the phone when they call.

Could be worse - the Conservative Party (including a quarter of the Cabinet) could be accepting donations from citizens of a country with whom we look as if we could be going to war with in the next couple of weeks, and whose Government poisoned (& murdered) some people in our country about three years ago…

TheDaddy 10-02-2022 11:51

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36113024)
The Met has been requested to open an enquiry. Their previous excuse that potential crimes that happened in the past could not be investigated has been found wanting.

There's something in the offing about them enquiring about his flat refurbishment to

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36112988)
Or having work breaks, like Sir Keir was having when he was caught drinking beer with colleagues.

And that some how excuses or cancells out the 16 known so far parties or something :dozey:

Maggy 10-02-2022 11:53

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36113033)
There's something in the offing about them enquiring about his flat refurbishment to

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And that some how excuses or cancells out the 16 known so far parties or something :dozey:

Yep.One against 16 or possibly more parties,works do,leaving do etc.

OLD BOY 10-02-2022 12:36

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36113017)
There's a big difference between people at work snatching some food and drink out of necessity (weren't food outlets closed?) and people obviously partying? Realms of, I would have thought.

The allegations may say there were parties. Let’s see how the police define them before we rush to judgement on Dominic Cummings’ bile, shall we?

Mick 10-02-2022 12:38

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36113029)
Could be worse - the Conservative Party (including a quarter of the Cabinet) could be accepting donations from citizens of a country with whom we look as if we could be going to war with in the next couple of weeks, and whose Government poisoned (& murdered) some people in our country about three years ago…

Great, now do Labour’s Barry Gardener and the recently discovered Chinese spy. :rolleyes:

OLD BOY 10-02-2022 12:39

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36113033)
There's something in the offing about them enquiring about his flat refurbishment to

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And that some how excuses or cancells out the 16 known so far parties or something :dozey:

Allegations of parties, allegations.

Mick 10-02-2022 12:49

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Guido Fawkes has a brilliant quote today against the Remainiac John Major, ex PM.

Quote:

Major, who oversaw a string of disastrously embarrassing scandals, says this Government looks distinctly shifty.
Wheeling out this old clown might actually improve support for Boris, not scupper it.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36112984)
No, his home is a couple of floors up next door - he’s in an office.

If he was in his flat, the others wouldn’t have been allowed in, under the regs at the time.

So were millions of other people, letting in other people, yes, shock horror, they too, was breaking lockdown rules.

:zzz:

Change the record, you and others in this thread, posting one sided rubbish is getting boring now.

daveeb 10-02-2022 13:47

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36113042)
Guido Fawkes has a brilliant quote today against the Remainiac John Major, ex PM.



Wheeling out this old clown might actually improve support for Boris, not scupper it.

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So were millions of other people, letting in other people, yes, shock horror, they too, was breaking lockdown rules.

:zzz:

Change the record, you and others in this thread, posting one sided rubbish is getting boring now.


John Major hit the nail on the head. It was a perfect summing up of the current situation.


And the chief clown, bumbling Boris was once again pictured with a garland of tinsel and a bottle of Bolly to sustain himself through yet another business meeting. :rolleyes:

Carth 10-02-2022 14:04

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 36113046)
John Major hit the nail on the head. It was a perfect summing up of the current situation.


And the chief clown, bumbling Boris was once again pictured with a garland of tinsel and a bottle of Bolly to sustain himself through yet another business meeting. :rolleyes:

Got a link to that picture?

1andrew1 10-02-2022 14:33

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36113048)
Got a link to that picture?

I think one may have been linked to earlier. If you check tomorrow's press I'm sure more will have mysteriously surfaced. ;)

Sephiroth 10-02-2022 14:34

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36113039)
The allegations may say there were parties. Let’s see how the police define them before we rush to judgement on Dominic Cummings’ bile, shall we?

The police cleared Starmer.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...partygate.html

As for Cummings - he should keep the revelations coming.

1andrew1 10-02-2022 14:44

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 36113046)
John Major hit the nail on the head. It was a perfect summing up of the current situation.

Exactly. It's worse than the unlawful prorogation of Parliament as it affects every voter in the country who followed the rules and made big social sacrifices in doing so.

Conservative-voting souls like Chris and Seph know Johnson is toxic for the Party as he has breached the trust the country placed in him. They are able to appreciate the difference between a member of public breaking the rules slightly and someone in a position of power breaking the very rules that they told others to follow and to stand up in Parliament and deny it.

spiderplant 10-02-2022 15:07

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36113050)

As for Cummings - he should keep the revelations coming.

Here's a revelation from YouTube ;)

papa smurf 10-02-2022 15:10

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36113048)
Got a link to that picture?

No such picture exists

pip08456 10-02-2022 15:15

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36113050)
The police cleared Starmer.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...partygate.html

As for Cummings - he should keep the revelations coming.

As OB said earlier.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36113015)
Nope. I'm saying that the police are taking no action over Starmer taking alcohol refreshments in a break from work, so BJ is probably in the clear, depending on whether they find anything that is of real concern.


Hugh 10-02-2022 15:17

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36113040)
Great, now do Labour’s Barry Gardener and the recently discovered Chinese spy. :rolleyes:

Do you mean the post I was responding to, about the Chinese lawyer who had sent money to the Labour MP, and had also attended fund-raising events for the Conservative Party with Theresa May and Boris Johnson?

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36113042)
Guido Fawkes has a brilliant quote today against the Remainiac John Major, ex PM.



Wheeling out this old clown might actually improve support for Boris, not scupper it.

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So were millions of other people, letting in other people, yes, shock horror, they too, was breaking lockdown rules.

:zzz:

Change the record, you and others in this thread, posting one sided rubbish is getting boring now.

Pretty sure we weren't the ones setting the rules and implementing new laws to stop this sort of thing, and going on TV most days saying don't do these things - which is quite a bit of a difference...

1andrew1 10-02-2022 15:31

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36113055)
Pretty sure we weren't the ones setting the rules and implementing new laws to stop this sort of thing, and going on TV most days saying don't do these things - which is quite a bit of a difference...

:gpoint:

Sephiroth 10-02-2022 15:50

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Taking Chinese money from obvious lobbyists and then awarding huge PPE contracts to Chinese companies raises more than an eyebrow. The rule of propriety is "seen to be so (proper)" and this stinks on several levels.

For a start what sort of person is worthy of representing his/her constituents if they're in someone else's pocket.

Mad Max 10-02-2022 16:08

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 36113046)
John Major hit the nail on the head. It was a perfect summing up of the current situation.


And the chief clown, bumbling Boris was once again pictured with a garland of tinsel and a bottle of Bolly to sustain himself through yet another business meeting. :rolleyes:

So you know that he actually drank whatever was in that bottle?

1andrew1 10-02-2022 16:17

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36113060)
Taking Chinese money from obvious lobbyists and then awarding huge PPE contracts to Chinese companies raises more than an eyebrow. The rule of propriety is "seen to be so (proper)" and this stinks on several levels.

For a start what sort of person is worthy of representing his/her constituents if they're in someone else's pocket.

I agree.

I also think with foreign companies, particularly those with State ownership connections in Russia, the Middle East and China, there's another issue - they're also potentially seeking British political favours as well as commercial ones.

OLD BOY 10-02-2022 16:28

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 36113046)
John Major hit the nail on the head. It was a perfect summing up of the current situation.


And the chief clown, bumbling Boris was once again pictured with a garland of tinsel and a bottle of Bolly to sustain himself through yet another business meeting. :rolleyes:

Still doesn’t mean he broke any rules.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36113050)
The police cleared Starmer.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...partygate.html

As for Cummings - he should keep the revelations coming.

And what will you say when the police clear BJ?

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36113066)
So you know that he actually drank whatever was in that bottle?

Doesn’t matter if he did. Drinks at business meetings are not uncommon and did not fall foul of the rules.

Carth 10-02-2022 16:37

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
I think I may have found that picture, you know, the one alluded to . . . .

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. . bumbling Boris was once again pictured with a garland of tinsel and a bottle of Bolly to sustain himself through yet another business meeting

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2022/02/5.jpg


For those in need . . . https://www.specsavers.co.uk ;)

Mad Max 10-02-2022 16:51

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:D:D

daveeb 10-02-2022 17:10

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36113072)
I think I may have found that picture, you know, the one alluded to . . . .




https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2022/02/5.jpg


For those in need . . . https://www.specsavers.co.uk ;)


Thanks, yes all there, tinsel, bubbly and Bojo. Strange backdrop for a work meeting.

Mick 10-02-2022 17:11

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36113055)
Do you mean the post I was responding to, about the Chinese lawyer who had sent money to the Labour MP, and had also attended fund-raising events for the Conservative Party with Theresa May and Boris Johnson?

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Pretty sure we weren't the ones setting the rules and implementing new laws to stop this sort of thing, and going on TV most days saying don't do these things - which is quite a bit of a difference...

So you keep saying. It’s boringly irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. :zzz:

1andrew1 10-02-2022 17:28

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 36113076)
Thanks, yes all there, tinsel, bubbly and Bojo. Strange backdrop for a work meeting.

These photos get funnier and funnier!

Can't wait to see the next instalment, we might see the fabled clown's costume in the end!

Hugh 10-02-2022 18:44

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36113069)
Still doesn’t mean he broke any rules.

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And what will you say when the police clear BJ?

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Doesn’t matter if he did. Drinks at business meetings are not uncommon and did not fall foul of the rules.

The Government thought otherwise…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1644518628

https://twitter.com/govuk/status/133...522270721?s=21

Mick 10-02-2022 19:13

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BREAKING: Met Police commissioner Cressida Dick is/has resigned.

https://www.gbnews.uk/news/cressida-...ssioner/223979

Mad Max 10-02-2022 19:21

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36113086)
BREAKING: Met Police commissioner Cressida Dick is/has resigned.

https://www.gbnews.uk/news/cressida-...ssioner/223979

About time, she was about as useful as a chocolate kettle.

Carth 10-02-2022 20:49

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 36113076)
Thanks, yes all there, tinsel, bubbly and Bojo. Strange backdrop for a work meeting.

Bojo in the background, along with an unidentified female holding a mobile.
An unidentified person at a desk to the right, with open laptop.
Strange chap center with a garland around his neck and a highly intelligent look on his face.
One bottle of bubbly on the left of the desk.

Definitely proof Bojo was getting pissed at a drinks party while not working. :rolleyes:

TheDaddy 10-02-2022 21:13

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36113086)
BREAKING: Met Police commissioner Cressida Dick is/has resigned.

https://www.gbnews.uk/news/cressida-...ssioner/223979

Good, jumped before she was pushed

:waving: bye bye dame dick, bit of luck she'll take the mayor with her

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36113098)
Bojo in the background, along with an unidentified female holding a mobile.
An unidentified person at a desk to the right, with open laptop.
Strange chap center with a garland around his neck and a highly intelligent look on his face.
One bottle of bubbly on the left of the desk.

Definitely proof Bojo was getting pissed at a drinks party while not working. :rolleyes:

Hmm pixilated female and bozo is adjusting his clothing, Carrie will be furious :sick:

Carth 10-02-2022 21:15

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Carrie is out of the picture, this side of the desk, doing a striptease . . . which may explain the look on the face of the chap sitting ;)

Hugh 10-02-2022 21:21

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36113098)
Bojo in the background, along with an unidentified female holding a mobile.
An unidentified person at a desk to the right, with open laptop.
Strange chap center with a garland around his neck and a highly intelligent look on his face.
One bottle of bubbly on the left of the desk.

Definitely proof Bojo was getting pissed at a drinks party while not working. :rolleyes:

Definitely proof Bojo was at a drinks party when it was against the rules…

Sephiroth 10-02-2022 21:24

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36113069)
<SNIP>

And what will you say when the police clear BJ?

Doesn’t matter if he did. Drinks at business meetings are not uncommon and did not fall foul of the rules.


OB was right.

TheDaddy 10-02-2022 21:34

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36113111)

OB was right.

There's always a first time...

Carth 10-02-2022 22:12

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36113109)
Definitely proof Bojo was at a drinks party when it was against the rules…

Possibly just walked into the office to see who was singing off key while he was trying to sleep?

Maggy 10-02-2022 22:20

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
How about everyone actually posts when something new actually happens instead of this useless and endless speculation and constant sideswiping at other CF members.

daveeb 10-02-2022 22:23

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36113121)
Possibly just walked into the office to see who was singing off key while he was trying to sleep?


I'm sure that's the explanation, he's an honourable chap who wouldn't try and pull the wool over peoples eyes ;)

Hugh 10-02-2022 22:25

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36113121)
Possibly just walked into the office to see who was singing off key while he was trying to sleep?

Probably just got up, put on a suit and tie, then just walked down from the second floor of 11 Downing Street and made his way through a maze of corridors to see who was singing off key in an office in 10 Downing Street whilst he was trying to sleep?

Carth 10-02-2022 22:26

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36113125)
How about everyone actually posts when something new actually happens instead of this useless and endless speculation and constant sideswiping at other CF members.

Isn't that what OB has been saying all along?

Maggy 11-02-2022 09:16

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36113130)
Isn't that what OB has been saying all along?

How about just posting pertinent facts?

Sephiroth 11-02-2022 14:25

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 

When you add it all up, even Major was right - and he presided over some bad shit including his own cover-up. Boris' sins include:

1. The Owen Paterson affair where Boris tried to protect his sleazy friend;

2. The Russian Chinese donations to MPs;

3. Partygate.

4. Reneging on manifesto commitments about tax.

He's awful, and his nodding heads.

ianch99 11-02-2022 15:14

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36113169)

When you add it all up, even Major was right - and he presided over some bad shit including his own cover-up. Boris' sins include:

1. The Owen Paterson affair where Boris tried to protect his sleazy friend;

2. The Chinese donations to MPs;

3. Partygate.

4. Reneging on manifesto commitments about tax.

He's awful, and his nodding heads.

You missed out the VIP Covid lane, writing off billions in fraud, Russian donations to Tory MP's, etc.

Sephiroth 11-02-2022 15:26

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36113171)
You missed out the VIP Covid lane, writing off billions in fraud, Russian donations to Tory MP's, etc.

My earlier post is duly amended. Thanks.

Damien 11-02-2022 17:56

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I think I'll let them off the tax thing due to COVID to be fair. Maybe a stupid promise to make though.

The Paterson stuff was worse than the parties IMO, just proper corruption and arrogance to think the rules don't apply to them so they'll change those rules if they're caught breaking them. Worst of all was the minister who said the women who investigated him should 'consider her position'!! That is the absolute height of their arrogance, it was their own rules and commission but they openly went out to change the rules to get their mate off the hook with glee thinking they can do whatever they want. Since then everything has gone a bit wrong for them.

Similar to the parties though they pretended they were the victims because the rules they set were unfair even though they were the ones who made them.

1andrew1 14-02-2022 12:20

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More sleaze
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A Tory MP who has been paid £32,000 by the betting industry sent private letters to ministers warning them about the consequences of introducing tough new laws on “harmless gambling”.

Laurence Robertson, the MP for Tewkesbury, is paid £2,000 a month by the Betting and Gaming Council (BCG), the lobbying group that represents bookmakers. Last year he enjoyed free tickets worth thousands of pounds to watch cricket at Lord’s, horse racing at Doncaster and football at Wembley, courtesy of the gambling industry.

The Times has obtained a private email sent by Robertson, 63, to the gambling minister warning of the risks of tougher legislation. It was sent at about the time that the government announced a crackdown as part of a review of the Gambling Act. Almost a year and a half later no new laws have been announced and publication could be delayed until as late as May.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c...d86ab55b4987c1

Pierre 14-02-2022 13:53

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36113269)

Not really, that's pretty much how lobbying and government has always been and always will be.

Maggy 14-02-2022 23:31

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I have been racking my mind to try and remember who it is that Boris reminds me of. It’s just hit me. Benny Hill.

1andrew1 16-02-2022 18:13

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I thought this an interesting overview of what Johnson's team are doing behind the scenes to influence public opinion.

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How No 10 is testing out excuses to enable Boris Johnson to escape the Partygate scandal

Friendly newspapers are being briefed about what are either, depending on your point of view, the clever arguments his lawyers will employ – or their increasingly desperate excuses.

The motive is clear: this is a softening up exercise to try to shift public opinion about what was acceptable behaviour for Mr Johnson, during the lockdowns he imposed, with a none-too-subtle threat to the police tossed in...

So, it has been briefed that Mr Johnson will acknowledge he attended up to 6 rule-busting gatherings the Met is investigating, but will argue they were “part of his working life”.

“For each event, the prime minister will use details in his diary and call logs to highlight that he was present only briefly and that he continued with other work-related events afterwards,” The Times was told...

Meanwhile, slavishly loyal Tory MPs are sent out to argue a fine for breaking Covid rules is no more serious than a speeding ticket, or parking on a red line.

To understand what a seismic shift this is, we need to remember both what Mr Johnson originally told parliament and what broke the rules he brought in.

As a former Tory attorney-general has reminded us, MPs were told there were no parties and that no rules were breached – so, not only the goalposts, but the entire pitch is being uprooted by No 10.

And, as lawyers have repeatedly pointed out, no such thing as a “work event” existed in the lockdown laws. What matters is whether gatherings were “reasonably necessary for work”. It is clearly hard to argue an event was necessary for work when those attending have been told to “bring your own booze” or ABBA songs are blasting out – so that effort needs to start now.
From The Independent via MSN
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other...?ocid=msedgntp

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36113536)
The PM was/is not above the law, especially when he has made the law.

That said, I can see a defence he could use; namely that he was at his place of work doing stuff his work demands.

See above.

It is hard to argue that the parties were necessary for work and no such thing as a work event existed during lockdown. And let's not forget that Johnson told Parliament that there had been no parties.

OLD BOY 16-02-2022 18:40

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36113560)
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It is hard to argue that the parties were necessary for work and no such thing as a work event existed during lockdown. And let's not forget that Johnson told Parliament that there had been no parties.

It was not an offence to have a 'work event' if the event was not clearly a party (a social event). It was not an offence to have an alcoholic drink while working.

So if Boris was wheeled out by his advisor to thank his staff for their work, this would be OK. However, if that event then degenerated into a social event, those attending it would have been breaking the rules.

The decision of the police in relation to Starmer's beer drinking 'break' is quite helpful as a precedent in this regard.

I do not recall BJ saying there were no parties, but he did say he had 'been advised that no rules were broken'.

Clearly, 'parties', which fall under 'social events', were unlawful. But what still needs to be proved is that these gatherings were, in fact, parties. We will no soon enough what these events actually were.

As for the 'Abba music blaring from his flat' - who was there? We know Boris and Carrie were there, but Boris says he was working in another room.

There are too many questions that need to be answered, but it hasn't stopped the Boris haters to side with Cummings and believe implicitly the bile he is projecting, projectile-like, despite not giving him the time of day over his claim that he was 'testing his eyesight' while in Durham.

Believe what you want to, but the truth will be available soon. And I think many will be disappointed by what is revealed.

Sephiroth 16-02-2022 18:53

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36113560)
I thought this an interesting overview of what Johnson's team are doing behind the scenes to influence public opinion.


From The Independent via MSN
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other...?ocid=msedgntp

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See above.

It is hard to argue that the parties were necessary for work and no such thing as a work event existed during lockdown. And let's not forget that Johnson told Parliament that there had been no parties.

You're right, of course, Andrew. But that mountebank will wriggle and I'd put a shilling on a defence around what I suggested.

1andrew1 16-02-2022 19:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36113565)
It was not an offence to have a 'work event' if the event was not clearly a party (a social event). It was not an offence to have an alcoholic drink while working.

So if Boris was wheeled out by his advisor to thank his staff for their work, this would be OK. However, if that event then degenerated into a social event, those attending it would have been breaking the rules.

The decision of the police in relation to Starmer's beer drinking 'break' is quite helpful as a precedent in this regard.

I do not recall BJ saying there were no parties, but he did say he had 'been advised that no rules were broken'.

Clearly, 'parties', which fall under 'social events', were unlawful. But what still needs to be proved is that these gatherings were, in fact, parties. We will no soon enough what these events actually were.

As for the 'Abba music blaring from his flat' - who was there? We know Boris and Carrie were there, but Boris says he was working in another room.

There are too many questions that need to be answered, but it hasn't stopped the Boris haters to side with Cummings and believe implicitly the bile he is projecting, projectile-like, despite not giving him the time of day over his claim that he was 'testing his eyesight' while in Durham.

Believe what you want to, but the truth will be available soon. And I think many will be disappointed by what is revealed.

It's not a question about being a Cummings lover or a Johnson hater. It's a question about misleading Parliament and the public losing its respect for the law-making process of the United Kingdom.

There's a good reason that we didn't need as strict a lock down as some countries and why our vaccination rates were so high - the public entrusted its elected leaders to make the right decisions. That trust is being severely stretched by Partygate.

papa smurf 16-02-2022 19:07

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Booooooooooring who cares.

Paul 16-02-2022 19:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36113575)
Booooooooooring who cares.

Well if we dont all disappear in nuclear armageddon, someone might, somewhere. :sleep:

1andrew1 16-02-2022 19:09

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36113575)
Booooooooooring who cares.

You obviously care enough to read and post on the thread!

Plenty of threads I don't care about so I don't read and post on them!

;)

Hugh 16-02-2022 19:25

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36113565)
It was not an offence to have a 'work event' if the event was not clearly a party (a social event). It was not an offence to have an alcoholic drink while working.

So if Boris was wheeled out by his advisor to thank his staff for their work, this would be OK. However, if that event then degenerated into a social event, those attending it would have been breaking the rules.

The decision of the police in relation to Starmer's beer drinking 'break' is quite helpful as a precedent in this regard.

I do not recall BJ saying there were no parties, but he did say he had 'been advised that no rules were broken'.

Clearly, 'parties', which fall under 'social events', were unlawful. But what still needs to be proved is that these gatherings were, in fact, parties. We will no soon enough what these events actually were.

As for the 'Abba music blaring from his flat' - who was there? We know Boris and Carrie were there, but Boris says he was working in another room.

There are too many questions that need to be answered, but it hasn't stopped the Boris haters to side with Cummings and believe implicitly the bile he is projecting, projectile-like, despite not giving him the time of day over his claim that he was 'testing his eyesight' while in Durham.

Believe what you want to, but the truth will be available soon. And I think many will be disappointed by what is revealed.

Thank you, Nadine Dorries…

"Work event"

Quote:

as lawyers have repeatedly pointed out, no such thing as a “work event” existed in the lockdown laws. What matters is whether gatherings were “reasonably necessary for work”.
How could party hats, tinsel, birthday cakes, "bring your own booze", be "reasonably necessary for work"?.

Anyway, at the time, the phrase used was "essential", not "reasonably necessary"

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/...ade?view=plain

Quote:

Restrictions on gatherings

7. During the emergency period, no person may participate in a gathering in a public place of more than two people except—

(a)where all the persons in the gathering are members of the same household,

(b)where the gathering is essential for work purposes,

(c)to attend a funeral,

(d)where reasonably necessary—

(i)to facilitate a house move,

(ii)to provide care or assistance to a vulnerable person, including relevant personal care within the meaning of paragraph 7(3B) of Schedule 4 to the Safeguarding of Vulnerable Groups Act 2006,

(iii)to provide emergency assistance, or

(iv)to participate in legal proceedings or fulfil a legal obligation.

1andrew1 17-02-2022 09:40

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
We can see from this appproval tracker why Starmer should be quite happy at the moment! https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/uk...public-1462176

Maggy 17-02-2022 12:00

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36113614)
We can see from this appproval tracker why Starmer should be quite happy at the moment! https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/uk...public-1462176

Unfortunately that site doesn't allow ad blockers so I'm not interested in linking to it.

Carth 17-02-2022 12:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36113630)
Unfortunately that site doesn't allow ad blockers so I'm not interested in linking to it.

:tu: many sites immediately lose my interest for that same reason ;)

pip08456 17-02-2022 12:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36113630)
Unfortunately that site doesn't allow ad blockers so I'm not interested in linking to it.

Does not block mine. uBlock Origin.

OLD BOY 17-02-2022 13:28

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36113573)
It's not a question about being a Cummings lover or a Johnson hater. It's a question about misleading Parliament and the public losing its respect for the law-making process of the United Kingdom.

There's a good reason that we didn't need as strict a lock down as some countries and why our vaccination rates were so high - the public entrusted its elected leaders to make the right decisions. That trust is being severely stretched by Partygate.

It’s a question of whether or not the allegations are correct in the first place. That’s the point, and it is the point you keep ignoring.

I know that you want the allegations to be correct, but that does not make it so.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36113582)
Thank you, Nadine Dorries…

"Work event"



How could party hats, tinsel, birthday cakes, "bring your own booze", be "reasonably necessary for work"?.

Anyway, at the time, the phrase used was "essential", not "reasonably necessary"

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/...ade?view=plain

I don’t know how you think any of that is relevant. It was never against the rules to wear party hats and tinsel, eat cake, drink alcohol while working in the office.

I know you really, really want to prove that Boris was culpable, but do you see how flaky your arguments are? Prepare to crash land when the police give their verdict…

Sephiroth 17-02-2022 14:02

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36113639)
Does not block mine. uBlock Origin.

How so, Pip? The inews link still gives me adblocker grief.
Can you point me to the right UBLOCK setting, please?

BenMcr 17-02-2022 14:02

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36113648)
It was never against the rules to wear party hats and tinsel, eat cake, drink alcohol while working in the office.

But again it all depended on the situation as this Government Tweet says:
https://twitter.com/GOVUK/status/133..._uv2qCsZMgh32A

Quote:

Hi Mick, although there are exemptions for work purposes, you must not have a work Christmas lunch or party, where that is a primarily social activity and is not otherwise permitted by the rules in your tier. You can find more information here: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/guidance...ristmas-period Thanks

1andrew1 17-02-2022 14:21

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1 Attachment(s)
Here's the Boris Johnson approval rating form that i newspaper article.


https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1645107696
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/uk...public-1462176

pip08456 17-02-2022 15:11

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36113656)
How so, Pip? The inews link still gives me adblocker grief.
Can you point me to the right UBLOCK setting, please?

I'm just using default settings.

Sephiroth 17-02-2022 15:27

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36113661)
I'm just using default settings.

Thanks, Pip. The trick is to deactivate all other ad blockers leaving Ublock Origin operating on its own,

Good one.

OLD BOY 17-02-2022 17:49

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36113657)
But again it all depended on the situation as this Government Tweet says:
https://twitter.com/GOVUK/status/133..._uv2qCsZMgh32A

Quite. When I last worked in an office, staff dressed up in a 'Christmassy' manner every Christmas, but they still got on with their work in the normal way.

I don't recollect their being allegations of any Christmas lunch parties. Clearly, that would be against the rules.

Paul 17-02-2022 18:28

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36113639)
Does not block mine. uBlock Origin.

The fracking cookie consent again blocks half the page so I cant be bothered with it :td: I just closed the tab.

pip08456 17-02-2022 19:33

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36113695)
The fracking cookie consent again blocks half the page so I cant be bothered with it :td: I just closed the tab.

I don't get that either.

OLD BOY 17-02-2022 20:14

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36113109)
Definitely proof Bojo was at a drinks party when it was against the rules…

No-one’s dancing or singing. They look like they are working to me.

Hugh 18-02-2022 12:28

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36113718)
No-one’s dancing or singing. They look like they are working to me.

Were they working whilst doing the Christmas Quiz that Johnson was reading out the questions to them?

(waits for OB to insist they were multi-tasking, or that all the questions were "work related"… :rolleyes:)

Carth 18-02-2022 12:46

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36113762)
Were they working whilst doing the Christmas Quiz that Johnson was reading out the questions to them?

(waits for OB to insist they were multi-tasking, or that all the questions were "work related"… :rolleyes:)

Any news on who won the quiz and what the prize was? :D

OLD BOY 18-02-2022 12:56

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36113762)
Were they working whilst doing the Christmas Quiz that Johnson was reading out the questions to them?

(waits for OB to insist they were multi-tasking, or that all the questions were "work related"… :rolleyes:)

If Starmer can have a beer with colleagues on his break, I don’t see why the PM shouldn’t choose to indulge in a quiz during his break.

To my knowledge, participating in an online quiz was not against the Covid rules. Are you scraping the barrel,or what?

papa smurf 18-02-2022 13:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36113767)
If Starmer can have a beer with colleagues on his break, I don’t see why the PM shouldn’t choose to indulge in a quiz during his break.

To my knowledge, participating in an online quiz was not against the Covid rules. Are you scraping the barrel,or what?

He's underneath it now ;)

When i worked for VM all our meetings started with a quiz and there was always food .at xmas there was silly jumpers /hats /tinsel/a raffle,we also had meetings at various pubs, i think some people must have worked at some pretty crap places or they just have a rod up their arse about 1950s rules.

OLD BOY 18-02-2022 13:27

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36113770)
He's underneath it now ;)

When i worked for VM all our meetings started with a quiz and there was always food .at xmas there was silly jumpers /hats /tinsel/a raffle,we also had meetings at various pubs, i think some people must have worked at some pretty crap places or they just have a rod up their arse about 1950s rules.

I wonder occasionally whether some of them have ever been employed at all. I wouldn’t have them on my payroll!

papa smurf 18-02-2022 13:29

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36113773)
I wonder occasionally whether some of them have ever been employed at all. I wouldn’t have them on my payroll!

If they worked for me they would find their arse bouncing down the car park after the first week.

Hugh 18-02-2022 14:44

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36113770)
He's underneath it now ;)

When i worked for VM all our meetings started with a quiz and there was always food .at xmas there was silly jumpers /hats /tinsel/a raffle,we also had meetings at various pubs, i think some people must have worked at some pretty crap places or they just have a rod up their arse about 1950s rules.

Was that during the Lockdown?

I worked for Jones Cable, BCM, Encom, and contracted with a number of other Cable Companies - we often had work meetings in pubs, but we weren’t in the middle of a Pandemic then, so your proposition lacks both substance, accuracy, and relevance…

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36113767)
If Starmer can have a beer with colleagues on his break, I don’t see why the PM shouldn’t choose to indulge in a quiz during his break.

To my knowledge, participating in an online quiz was not against the Covid rules. Are you scraping the barrel,or what?

So that’ll be a "No, it wasn’t work related", then…

Pretty sure the Laws and Regulations that were promulgated and passed by Johnson didn’t have a paragraph stating -

9 C (3) ii
If you’re on a break, ignore all previous references to only undertaking essential work-related activities


With that rationale, you’ve not only scraped the barrel, you’ve gone through the bottom of the barrel, and dug so deep you’ve come out in the Pacific Ocean south of New Zealand…

OLD BOY 18-02-2022 17:14

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36113785)

So that’ll be a "No, it wasn’t work related", then…

Pretty sure the Laws and Regulations that were promulgated and passed by Johnson didn’t have a paragraph stating -

9 C (3) ii
If you’re on a break, ignore all previous references to only undertaking essential work-related activities


With that rationale, you’ve not only scraped the barrel, you’ve gone through the bottom of the barrel, and dug so deep you’ve come out in the Pacific Ocean south of New Zealand…

Are you ok, Hugh?

It was work related. When I last looked, the Working Time Regulations stated that every employee working 6 hours or more was entitled to a break. What was he supposed to do, sit there and twiddle his thumbs while he ate his jam sandwiches? If he chose to participate in an an online quiz, I think you are being overly enthusiastic if you interpret the rules in such an inflexible way.

I say again, the police have accepted Sir Keir Starmer’s beer with others on his break, so go figure.

Sephiroth 30-03-2022 10:24

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...postcount=1780

Quote:

Never mind Starmer - you were the one who repeatedly told us no laws had been broken. Now we know they were broken by at least 20 people.

Will you now do the honourable thing and resign?
In the light of Spiderplant's remarks in the Coronavirus thread addressed to OB, this might be a good time to resurrect this discussion.

Baited breath as to whether or not Boris broke the law!



joglynne 30-03-2022 11:02

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
I knew there was a thread about the No 10 parties. Don't understand why I couldn't find it ... maybe time to revisit Specsavers. Here's the link I gave yesterday about " Partygate: Met Police to issue first fines" which prompted OB's posts. :)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60906757

Sephiroth 30-03-2022 11:37

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
I reckon that a lot of people will be very sore at the No. 10 goings on and will not accept that Boris was oblivious to any of this.

For what my view is worth, any credit given to Boris for supporting Ukraine, minus the visa shambles, would not absolve him from presiding over "one law for the plebs and another for No. 10".

But, should he resign? Let's put it this way: If there was anyone else worthy of running the ship, yes - he should resign. I can't stand the man for all the reasons I've previously given. Expect a Tory wipe out of sorts instead.

joglynne 30-03-2022 11:54

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36117768)
I reckon that a lot of people will be very sore at the No. 10 goings on and will not accept that Boris was oblivious to any of this.

For what my view is worth, any credit given to Boris for supporting Ukraine, minus the visa shambles, would not absolve him from presiding over "one law for the plebs and another for No. 10".

But, should he resign? Let's put it this way: If there was anyone else worthy of running the ship, yes - he should resign. I can't stand the man for all the reasons I've previously given. Expect a Tory wipe out of sorts instead.

I agree. Also who would actually want to take his place. Any Conservative MP would have to see that becoming PM at this stage would be a Kiss of Death to their future career aspirations.

Maggy 30-03-2022 11:55

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
It's the comments I'm seeing on FB that annoy me the most.Implying that it's no big issue that he and his team at number 10 didn't obey the rules.If we don't find those in charge accountable at ANY point then why bother having any kind of democracy?

OLD BOY 30-03-2022 11:57

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36117768)
I reckon that a lot of people will be very sore at the No. 10 goings on and will not accept that Boris was oblivious to any of this.

For what my view is worth, any credit given to Boris for supporting Ukraine, minus the visa shambles, would not absolve him from presiding over "one law for the plebs and another for No. 10".

But, should he resign? Let's put it this way: If there was anyone else worthy of running the ship, yes - he should resign. I can't stand the man for all the reasons I've previously given. Expect a Tory wipe out of sorts instead.

I think we need to wait for Sue Gray’s report, which will be published in full once the police investigation is over and done with. Too many assumptions are being made and for all we know, Boris may well have been in the dark about these goings on.

He has restructured his No 10 team in response to what he has discovered. If he is found to have been complicit in all this, fair enough, but let’s get the facts before we pass final judgement.

joglynne 30-03-2022 12:02

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36117771)
It's the comments I'm seeing on FB that annoy me the most.Implying that it's no big issue that he and his team at number 10 didn't obey the rules.If we don't find those in charge accountable at ANY point then why bother having any kind of democracy?

Absolutely agree. I stopped reading the comments in most of my old haunts some time ago.

:erm: Those that I do still read, such as here, I have found myself writing a comment then deleting it as I know it will only prompt either sarky comments or be totally ignored.

Sephiroth 30-03-2022 12:08

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36117772)
I think we need to wait for Sue Gray’s report, which will be published in full once the police investigation is over and done with. Too many assumptions are being made and for all we know, Boris may well have been in the dark about these goings on.

He has restructured his No 10 team in response to what he has discovered. If he is found to have been complicit in all this, fair enough, but let’s get the facts before we pass final judgement.

What has already been published from the Sue Gray report damns him. His own house and he was photographed being present.


---------- Post added at 12:08 ---------- Previous post was at 12:06 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 36117774)
Absolutely agree. I stopped reading the comments in most of my old haunts some time ago.

:erm: Those that I do still read, such as here, I have found myself writing a comment then deleting it as I know it will only prompt either sarky comments or be totally ignored.

The "sarky comments" are the ones that make for the most fun!

OLD BOY 30-03-2022 12:09

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36117775)
What has already been published from the Sue Gray report damns him. His own house and he was photographed being present.

No, it doesn’t. That is only part of the evidence. Where is the context?

I think too many people are applying the ‘gotcha’ mentality without even caring whether it’s the truth or not.

Well, I want the truth, not the speculation or the slant some like to put on this.

Sephiroth 30-03-2022 12:15

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36117777)
No, it doesn’t. That is only part of the evidence. Where is the context?

I think too many people are applying the ‘gotcha’ mentality without even caring whether it’s the truth or not.

Well, I want the truth, not the speculation or the slant some like to put on this.

OB, Boris is an open book - he lies openly, he attends No. 10 parties openly (see photo), had to apologise to Parliament.



OLD BOY 30-03-2022 12:44

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36117778)
OB, Boris is an open book - he lies openly, he attends No. 10 parties openly (see photo), had to apologise to Parliament.



Clearly, Seph, your mind is closed now and no amount of factual information will persuade you otherwise.

He has apologised to Parliament for the actions of his staff, not for his own conduct.

Not long to wait now. Let’s not go round in another circle until we have the actual facts.

Sephiroth 30-03-2022 14:11

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36117785)
Clearly, Seph, your mind is closed now and no amount of factual information will persuade you otherwise.

He has apologised to Parliament for the actions of his staff, not for his own conduct.

Not long to wait now. Let’s not go round in another circle until we have the actual facts.

My mind is closed in terms my opinion of Boris; an insincere man interested in his own aggrandisement.

If the Gray report is very clear that Boris did not break the law, then I'll accept that. Any weasel wording, then my mind remains closed.


Hugh 30-03-2022 16:52

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36117785)
Clearly, Seph, your mind is closed now and no amount of factual information will persuade you otherwise.

He has apologised to Parliament for the actions of his staff, not for his own conduct.

Not long to wait now. Let’s not go round in another circle until we have the actual facts.

From the other thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36117749)
I am talking about the waste of so many questions on Question Time in the house that he wasted on this nonsense, accusing the PM of being personally responsible.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-60925233

Quote:

Lockdown parties: PM accepts responsibility over rule breaches, says Dominic Raab

Itshim 30-03-2022 17:42

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Had party really don't care , we had one in the restaurant at the sendd , no one did anything about the am,s at that ,but they were labour

daveeb 30-03-2022 18:58

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36117802)
Had party really don't care , we had one in the restaurant at the sendd , no one did anything about the am,s at that ,but they were labour


I don't really understand any of that, but the point is nobody should have been having any parties least of all those who decided we couldn't have them and made it a criminal offence to do so.

GrimUpNorth 30-03-2022 20:08

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36117777)
No, it doesn’t. That is only part of the evidence. Where is the context?

I think too many people are applying the ‘gotcha’ mentality without even caring whether it’s the truth or not.

Well, I want the truth, not the speculation or the slant some like to put on this.

Classic Old Boy, where have you been the last few weeks? How I've missed your middle of the road mindset.

---------- Post added at 20:08 ---------- Previous post was at 20:07 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36117785)
Clearly, Seph, your mind is closed now and no amount of factual information will persuade you otherwise.

He has apologised to Parliament for the actions of his staff, not for his own conduct.

Not long to wait now. Let’s not go round in another circle until we have the actual facts.

And the classics continue, just do a find and replace for Seph to Old Boy.....

Sephiroth 30-03-2022 20:13

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36117805)
Classic Old Boy, where have you been the last few weeks? How I've missed your middle of the road mindset.

---------- Post added at 20:08 ---------- Previous post was at 20:07 ----------



And the classics continue, just do a find and replace for Seph to Old Boy.....

I resemble that remark!

1andrew1 30-03-2022 21:41

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36117779)
I deem them a waste of time because all those questions were based on the nonsense being spouted by Dominic Cummings, a man you derided not that long ago for his capacity to lie.

Those questions were based on photographic evidence placed in the public domain and not the opinions of Cummings who you have now decided are nonsense. So no reason whatsoever for you not to follow your own advice to wait for the published inquiry.

OLD BOY 30-03-2022 23:07

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36117813)
Those questions were based on photographic evidence placed in the public domain and not the opinions of Cummings who you have now decided are nonsense. So no reason whatsoever for you not to follow your own advice to wait for the published inquiry.

I think I’d rather wait for the explanation of the circumstances behind that photograph.

You don’t get context, do you?

1andrew1 30-03-2022 23:24

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36117817)
I think I’d rather wait for the explanation of the circumstances behind that photograph.

You don’t get context, do you?

"That photograph"? :confused:

There were several photographs!

I'm afraid that your hatred for Cummings may be causing you to forget a few things. Again, I urge you to follow your advice and wait for the report.

Maggy 31-03-2022 09:23

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Well it's all going to plan..successfully kicked into the long grass.


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