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Guido Fawkes has a brilliant quote today against the Remainiac John Major, ex PM.
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:zzz: Change the record, you and others in this thread, posting one sided rubbish is getting boring now. |
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John Major hit the nail on the head. It was a perfect summing up of the current situation. And the chief clown, bumbling Boris was once again pictured with a garland of tinsel and a bottle of Bolly to sustain himself through yet another business meeting. :rolleyes: |
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...partygate.html As for Cummings - he should keep the revelations coming. |
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Conservative-voting souls like Chris and Seph know Johnson is toxic for the Party as he has breached the trust the country placed in him. They are able to appreciate the difference between a member of public breaking the rules slightly and someone in a position of power breaking the very rules that they told others to follow and to stand up in Parliament and deny it. |
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Taking Chinese money from obvious lobbyists and then awarding huge PPE contracts to Chinese companies raises more than an eyebrow. The rule of propriety is "seen to be so (proper)" and this stinks on several levels.
For a start what sort of person is worthy of representing his/her constituents if they're in someone else's pocket. |
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I also think with foreign companies, particularly those with State ownership connections in Russia, the Middle East and China, there's another issue - they're also potentially seeking British political favours as well as commercial ones. |
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I think I may have found that picture, you know, the one alluded to . . . .
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https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2022/02/5.jpg For those in need . . . https://www.specsavers.co.uk ;) |
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Thanks, yes all there, tinsel, bubbly and Bojo. Strange backdrop for a work meeting. |
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Can't wait to see the next instalment, we might see the fabled clown's costume in the end! |
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BREAKING: Met Police commissioner Cressida Dick is/has resigned.
https://www.gbnews.uk/news/cressida-...ssioner/223979 |
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An unidentified person at a desk to the right, with open laptop. Strange chap center with a garland around his neck and a highly intelligent look on his face. One bottle of bubbly on the left of the desk. Definitely proof Bojo was getting pissed at a drinks party while not working. :rolleyes: |
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Carrie is out of the picture, this side of the desk, doing a striptease . . . which may explain the look on the face of the chap sitting ;)
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OB was right. |
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How about everyone actually posts when something new actually happens instead of this useless and endless speculation and constant sideswiping at other CF members.
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I'm sure that's the explanation, he's an honourable chap who wouldn't try and pull the wool over peoples eyes ;) |
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When you add it all up, even Major was right - and he presided over some bad shit including his own cover-up. Boris' sins include: 1. The Owen Paterson affair where Boris tried to protect his sleazy friend; 2. The Russian Chinese donations to MPs; 3. Partygate. 4. Reneging on manifesto commitments about tax. He's awful, and his nodding heads. |
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I think I'll let them off the tax thing due to COVID to be fair. Maybe a stupid promise to make though.
The Paterson stuff was worse than the parties IMO, just proper corruption and arrogance to think the rules don't apply to them so they'll change those rules if they're caught breaking them. Worst of all was the minister who said the women who investigated him should 'consider her position'!! That is the absolute height of their arrogance, it was their own rules and commission but they openly went out to change the rules to get their mate off the hook with glee thinking they can do whatever they want. Since then everything has gone a bit wrong for them. Similar to the parties though they pretended they were the victims because the rules they set were unfair even though they were the ones who made them. |
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I have been racking my mind to try and remember who it is that Boris reminds me of. It’s just hit me. Benny Hill.
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I thought this an interesting overview of what Johnson's team are doing behind the scenes to influence public opinion.
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It is hard to argue that the parties were necessary for work and no such thing as a work event existed during lockdown. And let's not forget that Johnson told Parliament that there had been no parties. |
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So if Boris was wheeled out by his advisor to thank his staff for their work, this would be OK. However, if that event then degenerated into a social event, those attending it would have been breaking the rules. The decision of the police in relation to Starmer's beer drinking 'break' is quite helpful as a precedent in this regard. I do not recall BJ saying there were no parties, but he did say he had 'been advised that no rules were broken'. Clearly, 'parties', which fall under 'social events', were unlawful. But what still needs to be proved is that these gatherings were, in fact, parties. We will no soon enough what these events actually were. As for the 'Abba music blaring from his flat' - who was there? We know Boris and Carrie were there, but Boris says he was working in another room. There are too many questions that need to be answered, but it hasn't stopped the Boris haters to side with Cummings and believe implicitly the bile he is projecting, projectile-like, despite not giving him the time of day over his claim that he was 'testing his eyesight' while in Durham. Believe what you want to, but the truth will be available soon. And I think many will be disappointed by what is revealed. |
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There's a good reason that we didn't need as strict a lock down as some countries and why our vaccination rates were so high - the public entrusted its elected leaders to make the right decisions. That trust is being severely stretched by Partygate. |
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Booooooooooring who cares.
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Plenty of threads I don't care about so I don't read and post on them! ;) |
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We can see from this appproval tracker why Starmer should be quite happy at the moment! https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/uk...public-1462176
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I know you really, really want to prove that Boris was culpable, but do you see how flaky your arguments are? Prepare to crash land when the police give their verdict… |
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Can you point me to the right UBLOCK setting, please? |
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Here's the Boris Johnson approval rating form that i newspaper article.
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1645107696 https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/uk...public-1462176 |
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I don't recollect their being allegations of any Christmas lunch parties. Clearly, that would be against the rules. |
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(waits for OB to insist they were multi-tasking, or that all the questions were "work related"… :rolleyes:) |
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To my knowledge, participating in an online quiz was not against the Covid rules. Are you scraping the barrel,or what? |
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When i worked for VM all our meetings started with a quiz and there was always food .at xmas there was silly jumpers /hats /tinsel/a raffle,we also had meetings at various pubs, i think some people must have worked at some pretty crap places or they just have a rod up their arse about 1950s rules. |
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I worked for Jones Cable, BCM, Encom, and contracted with a number of other Cable Companies - we often had work meetings in pubs, but we weren’t in the middle of a Pandemic then, so your proposition lacks both substance, accuracy, and relevance… ---------- Post added at 14:44 ---------- Previous post was at 14:36 ---------- Quote:
Pretty sure the Laws and Regulations that were promulgated and passed by Johnson didn’t have a paragraph stating - 9 C (3) ii If you’re on a break, ignore all previous references to only undertaking essential work-related activities With that rationale, you’ve not only scraped the barrel, you’ve gone through the bottom of the barrel, and dug so deep you’ve come out in the Pacific Ocean south of New Zealand… |
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It was work related. When I last looked, the Working Time Regulations stated that every employee working 6 hours or more was entitled to a break. What was he supposed to do, sit there and twiddle his thumbs while he ate his jam sandwiches? If he chose to participate in an an online quiz, I think you are being overly enthusiastic if you interpret the rules in such an inflexible way. I say again, the police have accepted Sir Keir Starmer’s beer with others on his break, so go figure. |
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Baited breath as to whether or not Boris broke the law! |
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I knew there was a thread about the No 10 parties. Don't understand why I couldn't find it ... maybe time to revisit Specsavers. Here's the link I gave yesterday about " Partygate: Met Police to issue first fines" which prompted OB's posts. :)
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I reckon that a lot of people will be very sore at the No. 10 goings on and will not accept that Boris was oblivious to any of this.
For what my view is worth, any credit given to Boris for supporting Ukraine, minus the visa shambles, would not absolve him from presiding over "one law for the plebs and another for No. 10". But, should he resign? Let's put it this way: If there was anyone else worthy of running the ship, yes - he should resign. I can't stand the man for all the reasons I've previously given. Expect a Tory wipe out of sorts instead. |
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It's the comments I'm seeing on FB that annoy me the most.Implying that it's no big issue that he and his team at number 10 didn't obey the rules.If we don't find those in charge accountable at ANY point then why bother having any kind of democracy?
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He has restructured his No 10 team in response to what he has discovered. If he is found to have been complicit in all this, fair enough, but let’s get the facts before we pass final judgement. |
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:erm: Those that I do still read, such as here, I have found myself writing a comment then deleting it as I know it will only prompt either sarky comments or be totally ignored. |
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I think too many people are applying the ‘gotcha’ mentality without even caring whether it’s the truth or not. Well, I want the truth, not the speculation or the slant some like to put on this. |
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He has apologised to Parliament for the actions of his staff, not for his own conduct. Not long to wait now. Let’s not go round in another circle until we have the actual facts. |
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If the Gray report is very clear that Boris did not break the law, then I'll accept that. Any weasel wording, then my mind remains closed. |
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Had party really don't care , we had one in the restaurant at the sendd , no one did anything about the am,s at that ,but they were labour
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I don't really understand any of that, but the point is nobody should have been having any parties least of all those who decided we couldn't have them and made it a criminal offence to do so. |
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You don’t get context, do you? |
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There were several photographs! I'm afraid that your hatred for Cummings may be causing you to forget a few things. Again, I urge you to follow your advice and wait for the report. |
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Well it's all going to plan..successfully kicked into the long grass.
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