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cheekyangus 25-08-2021 16:27

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36090902)
Virgin probably lost considerably more customers from it not carrying Sky Atlantic than they will through removing CNN. Will they really be concerned by this?

Agree.

1andrew1 25-08-2021 16:30

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
It's a bit unfortunate if the 360 app is being removed too. If this remained then the keen CNN viewers could at least use this instead, even if they had to pay for it.

cheekyangus 25-08-2021 16:34

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Given CNN is currently Free-To-Air, don't the FTA channels (except the PSBs I'd imagine) pay VirginMedia for carriage rather than the other way around?

epsilon 25-08-2021 18:41

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36090910)
Given CNN is currently Free-To-Air, don't the FTA channels (except the PSBs I'd imagine) pay VirginMedia for carriage rather than the other way around?

In theory, in which case an assumption could be that Virgin is asking more for cable carriage than CNN's satellite uplink provider. In reality, it depends on the contract - and we don't get to see the details of those.

---------- Post added at 18:12 ---------- Previous post was at 16:39 ----------

https://twitter.com/cnnipr/status/1430532115511250949

So basically, CNN are saying to continue watching on linear TV, get Sky

---------- Post added at 18:41 ---------- Previous post was at 18:12 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36090730)
@epsilon

TV Channel lists.com is reporting that Sky are testing Sky Showcase, Sky Showcase +1, Sky Showcase HD, Sky Max and Sky Max HD on Sky right now tests started in Mid July.

https://www.tvchannellists.com/w/Add...e_new_channels

I've been keeping an eye on these. It's quite funny that the labels they originally assigned as "Paralympics" are now listed as for unknown channels. The services marked Sky Max or Sky Showcase plus a few others (5275-5281) are now marked up as various versions of Sky One according to the "Sky & Satellite Monthly News Thread, July 2021" over on Digital Spy. It appears that Sky are finally preparing for the Sky Max / Sky Showcase services on Astra 28.2. https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...mment_99479134

No information yet about any preparations on Virgin.

Itshim 25-08-2021 20:36

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36090523)
Update:

Channel 109 - Sky One HD - is showing Sky Showcase HD listings from September 1st but is showing Sky Max HD listings on September 4th.

Channel 110 - Sky One - is showing Sky Showcase listings from September 1st.

I also see on DRB that Sky Max and Sky Max HD is even still to start testing on Sky.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36090901)
I expect to see it disappear off FreeSat if it's joining the sub club as it'll be encrypted.

It's going to bite them in the behind, I don't get the impression people want to pay for TV news, news channels are all about maximising availability. I can't see all the likes of those hotels and airports wanting to pay, they'll just move to another channel, or not replace them at all.

I can see them having to reverse this move in a year or 2.

There are certainly some very passionate viewers on other forums and social media, one said they had it on in the background virtually all day and recorded shows on top of that. Several others have said they only subscribed to VM for CNN so will be moving.

Seems yet an other reason to look again at sky ,hi ho . Can't wait for the next price rise perhaps it will be the straw that breaks the camel's back . However it would mean changing BB as well. Unless keep it on lowest package . And put sky in for all TV watching . Can't see virgin being a viable TV source in more than two to three years.

Derekb108 25-08-2021 20:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36090731)
A bit like on here!

Yup Old boy, Like when is Sky Atlantic Coming, it is Aint My Prediction it will be gone in 2024....

Inactive Digital 25-08-2021 22:26

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36090906)
At the moment it is FTA on Sky and available on Freesat. Surely any contracts there will only be for inclusion in the EPG.

Ah yes, of course it is. I think it's difficult to know for sure which party is responsible. On the one hand, VM's statement and removal aligns with Warner's intention to go down the streaming route, whereas CNN's continuing presence on Sky and Freesat contradicts that. On the other hand, VM has previous for this kind of thing...

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CNN is also being removed from BT and Freesat next week, so that certainly seems to suggest this is a Warner decision. Its a contradictory offering though - either pay monthly or get it FTA on satellite.

https://amp.mediamole.co.uk/entertai...ek_460832.html

I wonder if CNN is a part of the pay channels carriage agreement, despite it being FTA.

epsilon 25-08-2021 22:48

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 36090941)
Ah yes, of course it is. I think it's difficult to know for sure which party is responsible. On the one hand, VM's statement and removal aligns with Warner's intention to go down the streaming route, whereas CNN's continuing presence on Sky and Freesat contradicts that. On the other hand, VM has previous for this kind of thing...

---------- Post added at 22:26 ---------- Previous post was at 22:15 ----------

CNN is also being removed from BT and Freesat next week, so that certainly seems to suggest this is a Warner decision. Its a contradictory offering though - either pay monthly or get it FTA on satellite.

https://amp.mediamole.co.uk/entertai...ek_460832.html

I wonder if CNN is a part of the pay channels carriage agreement, despite it being FTA.

Maybe Warner want CNN to be in the subs club and Sky agreed but Virgin said no. I suppose things will be a little clearer next week when we find out if CNN remains FTA on Sky or is encrypted.

Meanwhile CNN's PR team are promoting the fact that CNN will continue to be available on Sky from September 1st. https://twitter.com/cnnipr/status/1430560155322757127

Also changing the bio of its Twitter feed to state:
Quote:

The official feed of CNN International's Communications team. Watch @CNNI in the UK on Sky 506 and at http://cnn.com/WatchLiveUK

Media Boy UK 25-08-2021 23:34

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36090948)
Maybe Warner want CNN to be in the subs club and Sky agreed but Virgin said no. I suppose things will be a little clearer next week when we find out if CNN remains FTA on Sky or is encrypted.

Meanwhile CNN's PR team are promoting the fact that CNN will continue to be available on Sky from September 1st. https://twitter.com/cnnipr/status/1430560155322757127

Also changing the bio of its Twitter feed to state:

CNN International did launch in 1985 on September 1st look like Virgin Media will not be attending CNN International's 36th Birthday party.

You would think Warner Media would roll over all deals with providers until WarnerMedia proposed merger with Discovery, Inc is deal is done. As on the outside looking in Discovery is set to be running things with Discovery's David Zaslav is set to become CEO of Warner Bros. Discovery after the deal closes in the middle of 2022.

Hugh 25-08-2021 23:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36090950)
CNN launch in 1985 on September 1st look like Virgin Media will not be attending CNN's 36th Birthday party.

Except…

https://www.britannica.com/topic/CNN
Quote:

After four years in development, CNN signed on the air June 1, 1980

Media Boy UK 25-08-2021 23:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36090951)

I am on about CNN International - not US Broadcaster CNN.

cheekyangus 26-08-2021 00:00

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36090950)
CNN International did launch in 1985 on September 1st look like Virgin Media will not be attending CNN International's 36th Birthday party.

You would think Warner Media would roll over all deals with providers until WarnerMedia proposed merger with Discovery, Inc is deal is done. As on the outside looking in Discovery is set to be running things with Discovery's David Zaslav is set to become CEO of Warner Bros. Discovery after the deal closes in the middle of 2022.

One of the Discovery execs getting a cushy job is to be expected in a deal, it still doesn't change that 71% of the venture will be owned by WB's parent company and Discovery 29%.

epsilon 26-08-2021 00:22

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36090956)
One of the Discovery execs getting a cushy job is to be expected in a deal, it still doesn't change that 71% of the venture will be owned by WB's parent company and Discovery 29%.

I think the terms of the merger are that AT&T's shareholders get 71% of the venture and Discovery's shareholders get 29%. Effectively a divestment by AT&T, creating a standalone company.

Media Boy UK 26-08-2021 00:35

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Some channels to rebrand soon on Virgin Media:

September:
6th: MTV Classic to be known as MTV Pride on Virgin Channel 316.
13th: MTV Pride to be rebrand back as MTV Classic on Virgin UK Channel 316.
20th: Sky Sports Golf HD to be known as Sky Sports Ryder Cup HD on Virgin UK Channel 505.
20th: Sky Sports Golf to be known as Sky Sports Ryder Cup on Virgin UK Channel 515.
26th: GREAT! movies classic to be known as GREAT! movies christmas on Virgin UK Channel 424.
28th: Sky Sports Ryder Cup HD to be rebrand back to Sky Sports Golf HD on Virgin UK Channel 505.
28th: Sky Sports Ryder Cup to be rebrand back to Sky Sports Golf on Virgin UK Channel 515.

November:
20th: NOW 80s to be known as NOW Christmas on Virgin UK Channel 347.

December:
27th: Now Christmas to be rebrand back to NOW 80s on Virgin UK Channel 347.

January 2022:
4th: GREAT! movies christmas to be rebrand back to GREAT! movies classic on Virgin UK Channel 424.

vincerooney 26-08-2021 00:51

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ugh i actually liked CNN especially for the US election coverage and the January riots. it was good to see the americanism of news. Now nothing...and we have to pay money per month just for CNN...what the heck!

Legendkiller2k 26-08-2021 01:34

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36090959)
Some channels to rebrand soon on Virgin Media:

September:
6th: MTV Classic to be known as MTV Pride on Virgin Channel 316.
13th: MTV Pride to be rebrand back as MTV Classic on Virgin UK Channel 316.
20th: Sky Sports Golf HD to be known as Sky Sports Ryder Cup HD on Virgin UK Channel 505.
20th: Sky Sports Golf to be known as Sky Sports Ryder Cup on Virgin UK Channel 515.
26th: GREAT! movies classic to be known as GREAT! movies christmas on Virgin UK Channel 424.
28th: Sky Sports Ryder Cup HD to be rebrand back to Sky Sports Golf HD on Virgin UK Channel 505.
28th: Sky Sports Ryder Cup to be rebrand back to Sky Sports Golf on Virgin UK Channel 515.

November:
20th: NOW 80s to be known as NOW Christmas on Virgin UK Channel 347.

December:
27th: Now Christmas to be rebrand back to NOW 80s on Virgin UK Channel 347.

January 2022:
4th: GREAT! movies christmas to be rebrand back to GREAT! movies classic on Virgin UK Channel 424.

I swear this Christmas channels get earlier and earlier each year.

RichardCoulter 26-08-2021 03:01

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36090948)
Maybe Warner want CNN to be in the subs club and Sky agreed but Virgin said no. I suppose things will be a little clearer next week when we find out if CNN remains FTA on Sky or is encrypted.

Meanwhile CNN's PR team are promoting the fact that CNN will continue to be available on Sky from September 1st. https://twitter.com/cnnipr/status/1430560155322757127

Also changing the bio of its Twitter feed to state:

I wonder if VM were trying to get the HD variant at no extra cost, couldn't, so ended up throwing their toys out of the pram.

epsilon 26-08-2021 03:32

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36090963)
I wonder if VM were trying to get the HD variant at no extra cost, couldn't, so ended up throwing their toys out of the pram.

It's in the Player basic subscription level, so not a particularly high value channel for Virgin. Maybe it is just treated as a channel available FTA elsewhere and has to pay carriage and bandwidth fees to Virgin. I doubt that Virgin could insist on CNN going HD and therefore have to pay higher bandwidth fees. If they have, that could explain CNN's departure. All speculation though unless we get to see the terms of the contract, which isn't going to happen.

The fact that CNN will continue on Sky is at odds with Virgin's claim that WarnerMedia wants to move the channel to Warner's own subscription model.

ozsat 26-08-2021 05:29

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
They hven't said how much longer they will be on Sky - only still there from 1st September.

The question those wanting to know should not be "will CNN still be on Sky after 1st Sept 2021?" but should be "will CNN still be on Sky after 1st Jan 2022?"

They could close CNN on Sky on 8th Sept and would not have made a false claim.

I suspect they are just waiting for that carriage deal to expire as both BT and VM will have already been dropped by then.

Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36090964)
The fact that CNN will continue on Sky is at odds with Virgin's claim that WarnerMedia wants to move the channel to Warner's own subscription model.


epsilon 26-08-2021 06:28

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36090965)
They hven't said how much longer they will be on Sky - only still there from 1st September.

The question those wanting to know should not be "will CNN still be on Sky after 1st Sept 2021?" but should be "will CNN still be on Sky after 1st Jan 2022?"

They could close CNN on Sky on 8th Sept and would not have made a false claim.

I suspect they are just waiting for that carriage deal to expire as both BT and VM will have already been dropped by then.

CNN are actively promoting the carriage on Sky, listing it ahead of their own subscription service on their Twitter feed. I don't think anyone is claiming that CNN will be carried on Sky indefinitely. That can't realistically be claimed for any channel. The thing to watch out for in the near future is whether or not CNN becomes encrypted on Sky. That would be a good indication of a firm contract or waiting out an existing uplink contract. Obviously, dropping BT carriage isn't very important as the service which carried CNN is no longer being marketed.

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I've just heard that Sky Max (sid 524) & Sky Max HD (sid 2405) have now been added and are testing internally at Virgin. Video and Audio streams have also been added. At the moment, Greatest Hits Radio only exists as a label with no audio stream present.

Media Boy UK 26-08-2021 08:48

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36090966)
I've just heard that Sky Max (sid 524) & Sky Max HD (sid 2405) have now been added and are testing internally at Virgin. Video and Audio streams have also been added.

I think SID 524 and SID 2405 was last use for FOX and FOX HD on Virgin Media.

cheekyangus 26-08-2021 09:09

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36090958)
I think the terms of the merger are that AT&T's shareholders get 71% of the venture and Discovery's shareholders get 29%. Effectively a divestment by AT&T, creating a standalone company.

Correct. I was just being lazy. It was lt was late and was tired. :sleep:

RichardCoulter 26-08-2021 09:15

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36090965)
They hven't said how much longer they will be on Sky - only still there from 1st September.

The question those wanting to know should not be "will CNN still be on Sky after 1st Sept 2021?" but should be "will CNN still be on Sky after 1st Jan 2022?"

They could close CNN on Sky on 8th Sept and would not have made a false claim.

I suspect they are just waiting for that carriage deal to expire as both BT and VM will have already been dropped by then.

Good point, maybe they are simply seeing out their carriage contract on Sky.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36090966)
CNN are actively promoting the carriage on Sky, listing it ahead of their own subscription service on their Twitter feed. I don't think anyone is claiming that CNN will be carried on Sky indefinitely. That can't realistically be claimed for any channel. The thing to watch out for in the near future is whether or not CNN becomes encrypted on Sky. That would be a good indication of a firm contract or waiting out an existing uplink contract. Obviously, dropping BT carriage isn't very important as the service which carried CNN is no longer being marketed.

---------- Post added at 06:28 ---------- Previous post was at 06:08 ----------

I've just heard that Sky Max (sid 524) & Sky Max HD (sid 2405) have now been added and are testing internally at Virgin. Video and Audio streams have also been added. At the moment, Greatest Hits Radio only exists as a label with no audio stream present.

...but if so, why are they promoting their carriage on Sky (and ahead of their own streaming service)? Maybe Sky are allowing them into the sub club or are offering benefits in kind such as free capacity in order to stay on their platform?

The info that I got the other week also mentioned Boomerang & Cartoonito as going onto their own streaming service, maybe that is the plan when the contractual agreement with Sky expires??

cheekyangus 26-08-2021 09:17

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36090962)
I swear this Christmas channels get earlier and earlier each year.

It's their best ratings of the year for the likes of Great! (formerly Sony) Movies Classic and Movies24, so I suppose that's why.

Phunkenstein 26-08-2021 09:24

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One thing to bear in mind is that when Sky and WarnerMedua renewed their content deal in 2019, the press release did specifically state …Extends HBO and Warner Bros. output deal and Turner channels carriage deals

So it’s entirely possible CNN’s presence on Sky could still run for a while yet assuming the carriage deal runs for several years like the movie and HBO deals…

cheekyangus 26-08-2021 09:32

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36090964)
The fact that CNN will continue on Sky is at odds with Virgin's claim that WarnerMedia wants to move the channel to Warner's own subscription model.

The wording on the Official VM Community Forum posting was "Due to WarnerMedia’s plans to move to a subscription model for the CNN news channel" that doesn't mean they are moving to Warner's own systems on all platforms, it's ambiguous, it covers getting money from Sky as a Pay channel.

It's possible CNN weren't bothered about going Pay on other platforms as those smaller number of viewers, if they truly were interested, would be among the first customers for their new direct subscription, giving it a boost. Sky being the largest Pay TV platform by far would be the only important deal to them.

ScottishSteve 26-08-2021 09:51

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36090979)
The wording on the Official VM Community Forum posting was "Due to WarnerMedia’s plans to move to a subscription model for the CNN news channel" that doesn't mean they are moving to Warner's own systems on all platforms, it's ambiguous, it covers getting money from Sky as a Pay channel.

It's possible CNN weren't bothered about going Pay on other platforms as those smaller number of viewers, if they truly were interested, would be among the first customers for their new direct subscription, giving it a boost. Sky being the largest Pay TV platform by far would be the only important deal to them.

Bottom line is

CNN has until now paid for carriage on the platform

Now they want Virgin to pay them.

If anyone really wants it £20 a year or £2 a month for their online service will hardly break the bank.

1andrew1 26-08-2021 09:56

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36090965)
I suspect they are just waiting for that carriage deal to expire as both BT and VM will have already been dropped by then.

For what it's worth, I don't think CNN was ever on BT.

ScottishSteve 26-08-2021 10:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36090987)
For what it's worth, I don't think CNN was ever on BT.

It was in the package before the Now TV channels were added and moving over would have meant loosing it.

It is only on the legacy service for now.

cheekyangus 26-08-2021 10:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36090985)
Bottom line is

CNN has until now paid for carriage on the platform

Now they want Virgin to pay them.

If anyone really wants it £20 a year or £2 a month for their online service will hardly break the bank.

Agree.

Legendkiller2k 26-08-2021 13:39

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36090987)
For what it's worth, I don't think CNN was ever on BT.

It was and on Plusnet tv(soon to close entirely) too.

Inactive Digital 26-08-2021 14:01

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36090966)
The thing to watch out for in the near future is whether or not CNN becomes encrypted on Sky.

Here's the answer:
https://rxtvinfo.com/2021/cnn-drops-...in-online-push

1andrew1 26-08-2021 14:07

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36091019)
It was and on Plusnet tv(soon to close entirely) too.

I stand corrected. A niche choice!

cheekyangus 26-08-2021 14:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 36091026)

​This is the first time I've heard about the encryption flag being seen on Satellite, so there was prior indication it was going, and not just on Virgin Media.

epsilon 26-08-2021 17:33

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36090969)
I think SID 524 and SID 2405 was last use for FOX and FOX HD on Virgin Media.

Partly right, the FOX label has been moved from 524 to 574. FOX HD was, and the label still is sid 1610. Before you ask ;) FOX+1 was 723 but the label moved to 751 to make way for QVC Extra. The movement to higher sid numbers is normal until the channels are completely removed about 3 months after closure. I had been given the information this morning but didn't think it was worth posting.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36090971)
Correct. I was just being lazy. It was lt was late and was tired. :sleep:

That's fair enough but you said "71% of the venture will be owned by WB's parent company". The parent company is AT&T. WarnerMedia will be spun off so, other than sharing some of the same shareholders, AT&T will have no control over the new company.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 36091026)

Thank you. It's a hobbyist site, so I'll still wait for the encryption flag to be added. If it is added, it is confirmation of a "subs club" agreement with Sky. Encryption being a Sky service. A shame then that Virgin didn't manage to negotiate a similar agreement.

cheekyangus 26-08-2021 18:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36091045)
That's fair enough but you said "71% of the venture will be owned by WB's parent company". The parent company is AT&T. WarnerMedia will be spun off so, other than sharing some of the same shareholders, AT&T will have no control over the new company.

Fair enough, spot on yet again. Sorry. I cut'n'pasted details in a post almost a week ago (see bottom) and didn't even get it correct then :(.

I suppose I should've said the Discovery guy's new job at the top of the new company doesn't necessarily mean Discovery employees are in charge, the WB staff might have most of the other top jobs.

The bit I posted almost a week ago & misremembered :dunce:
--->

"Under the terms of the agreement, which is structured as an all-stock, Reverse Morris Trust transaction, AT&T would receive $43 billion (subject to adjustment) in a combination of cash, debt securities, and WarnerMedia’s retention of certain debt, and AT&T’s shareholders would receive stock representing 71% of the new company; Discovery shareholders would own 29% of the new company. The Boards of Directors of both AT&T and Discovery have approved the transaction."

Source : Discovery's Corporate News site https://ir.corporate.discovery.com/n...t/default.aspx

RichardCoulter 26-08-2021 20:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36091045)
Partly right, the FOX label has been moved from 524 to 574. FOX HD was, and the label still is sid 1610. Before you ask ;) FOX+1 was 723 but the label moved to 751 to make way for QVC Extra. The movement to higher sid numbers is normal until the channels are completely removed about 3 months after closure. I had been given the information this morning but didn't think it was worth posting.

---------- Post added at 17:27 ---------- Previous post was at 17:22 ----------


That's fair enough but you said "71% of the venture will be owned by WB's parent company". The parent company is AT&T. WarnerMedia will be spun off so, other than sharing some of the same shareholders, AT&T will have no control over the new company.

---------- Post added at 17:33 ---------- Previous post was at 17:27 ----------


Thank you. It's a hobbyist site, so I'll still wait for the encryption flag to be added. If it is added, it is confirmation of a "subs club" agreement with Sky. Encryption being a Sky service. A shame then that Virgin didn't manage to negotiate a similar agreement.

Alternatively, it might not be going into the Sub Club, but be getting a sweetener for going FTV to get it off Freesat and generic satellite STB's as seems to have happened with Motors TV in the past?? I think this is unlikely though.

epsilon 26-08-2021 21:16

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36091070)
Alternatively, it might not be going into the Sub Club, but be getting a sweetener for going FTV to get it off Freesat and generic satellite STB's as seems to have happened with Motors TV in the past?? I think this is unlikely though.

I doubt that CNN has the kind of audience levels that would encourage Sky to offer such a sweetener. Also, it doesn't really fit with the theory of CNN moving to a subscription only model. What really amuses me is Virgin's explanation that they will no longer be carrying CNN as it is moving to a subscription model. Isn't that the case for most of the channels carried on Virgin TV? :erm::D

RichardCoulter 26-08-2021 22:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36091073)
I doubt that CNN has the kind of audience levels that would encourage Sky to offer such a sweetener. Also, it doesn't really fit with the theory of CNN moving to a subscription only model. What really amuses me is Virgin's explanation that they will no longer be carrying CNN as it is moving to a subscription model. Isn't that the case for most of the channels carried on Virgin TV? :erm::D

Aye, they're just spouting their usual crap.

TimeLord2018 26-08-2021 22:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Derekb108 (Post 36090929)
Yup Old boy, Like when is Sky Atlantic Coming, it is Aint My Prediction it will be gone in 2024....

My Prediction is it will be rebranded well before then.

Media Boy UK 27-08-2021 00:39

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36090965)
They hven't said how much longer they will be on Sky - only still there from 1st September.

The question those wanting to know should not be "will CNN still be on Sky after 1st Sept 2021?" but should be "will CNN still be on Sky after 1st Jan 2022?".

Been told CNN carriage deal with Sky will expire sometime before November 2024.

Last deal Sky done with WarnerMedia was an FIVE yrs deal - Confirmed on October 31st 2019.

---------- Post added at 00:13 ---------- Previous post was at 00:01 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36091045)
Partly right, the FOX label has been moved from 524 to 574. FOX HD was, and the label still is sid 1610. Before you ask ;) FOX+1 was 723 but the label moved to 751 to make way for QVC Extra. The movement to higher sid numbers is normal until the channels are completely removed about 3 months after closure. I had been given the information this morning but didn't think it was worth posting.

I know about that QVC Extra bit.

---------- Post added at 00:28 ---------- Previous post was at 00:13 ----------

Also you will only have until the end of September to watch any FOX shows on your boxes until the channels are completely removed.

TiVo says that CNN will close on Virgin Media Channel 607 at midnight on Tuesday (early Wednesday).

---------- Post added at 00:39 ---------- Previous post was at 00:28 ----------

Now we know that Virgin Media UK has signed an new deal to keep broadcasting the rest of the WarnerMedia channels minus CNN International.

Is Boomerang HD set to launch on Virgin Media as part of this deal?

SonicMaster 27-08-2021 14:44

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VM finally has a page about the changes to the Sky channels on 1st September:

https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...n-virgin-media

cheekyangus 27-08-2021 16:14

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36091158)
VM finally has a page about the changes to the Sky channels on 1st September:

https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...n-virgin-media

Thanks for the link SonicMaster.

Pretty much the expect marketing blurb, the only bit that I found useful to know was this...

"What will happen to Sky One series links and recordings?

For subscribed customers, existing Sky One recordings are unaffected. A series link on TiVo®/V6 set to “All channels” will find and record the shows in their new homes. However, a series link set for a show on Sky One will stop recording. For shows from Sky One staying on Sky Showcase, it will continue recording."

I'd been expecting Series Links for Sky 1 shows that were moving to Showcase to just move over since it was getting the same channel number, I was only expecting to change Series Links for shows that were moving to Comedy or Max.

dodgem22 27-08-2021 16:31

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Do we know that a new deal has been signed for the rest of the Warner media channels?

OLD BOY 27-08-2021 20:43

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36091158)
VM finally has a page about the changes to the Sky channels on 1st September:

https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...n-virgin-media

Well, MB was right about Sky Replay.

Media Boy UK 27-08-2021 20:53

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36091195)
Well, MB was right about Sky Replay.

Sky has been given Channel 163 (BBC Four HD old home) and are reusing Channel 206 (Universal Channel +1 old home) from September 1st. But I would have pick Virgin Channels 157 and 158.

---------- Post added at 20:53 ---------- Previous post was at 20:52 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodgem22 (Post 36091170)
Do we know that a new deal has been signed for the rest of the Warner media channels?

Nothing has been confirmed.

cheekyangus 27-08-2021 20:55

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36091196)
Sky has been given Channel 163 (BBC Four HD old home) and are reusing Channel 206 (Universal Channel +1 old home) from September 1st. But I would have pick Virgin Channels 157 and 158.

---------- Post added at 20:53 ---------- Previous post was at 20:52 ----------



Nothing has been confirmed.

My remembrance was BBC2 HD 162, BBC3 HD 163, BBC4 HD 164.

Media Boy UK 27-08-2021 21:39

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36091199)
My remembrance was BBC2 HD 162, BBC3 HD 163, BBC4 HD 164.

BBC Four HD was on Channel 163 until 2018.

https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...on-virgin.html, https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...-from-4th.html

cheekyangus 27-08-2021 23:49

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36091204)

It was on 164 at one point though, your own blog says so.
https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...view-2013.html

epsilon 28-08-2021 00:14

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36091207)
It was on 164 at one point though, your own blog says so.
https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...view-2013.html

Perhaps BBC4 HD simply moved to 163 after BBC3 HD was removed.

---------- Post added at 00:14 ---------- Previous post was at 00:12 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36091093)
I know about that QVC Extra bit.

Of course, but did you know FOX+1 moved to 751? which was the point I was making.

Media Boy UK 28-08-2021 04:14

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36091207)
It was on 164 at one point though, your own blog says so.
https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...view-2013.html

BBC 4 HD was moved from Channel 164 to Channel 163 in July 2016:

https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...k-to.html#more

cheekyangus 28-08-2021 08:47

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36091209)
Perhaps BBC4 HD simply moved to 163 after BBC3 HD was removed.

I accept it was on Ch164, it just didn't stick in my head. I have a memory of thinking they'd purposefully aligned the 3rd digit with the channel name to help customers remember the channel number at one point and was just checking I wasn't mad(der). :D

I'm guessing the Press Blue For HD function stopped that move being remembered by me.

RichardCoulter 28-08-2021 08:48

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36091195)
Well, MB was right about Sky Replay.

Did Sky initially say that this was going to close and change their mind, or was it just assumed by us that it would close?

OLD BOY 28-08-2021 10:29

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36091220)
Did Sky initially say that this was going to close and change their mind, or was it just assumed by us that it would close?

Not to my knowledge, but the reason it appeared to be closing was that it was not one of the pay channels listed by Sky when they made the announcement about channel changes.

Additionally, it seemed rather over the top to retain the channel when Sky Showcase was basically simulcasting most of its programming from other Sky channels.

RichardCoulter 28-08-2021 12:08

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36091225)
Not to my knowledge, but the reason it appeared to be closing was that it was not one of the pay channels listed by Sky when they made the announcement about channel changes.

Additionally, it seemed rather over the top to retain the channel when Sky Showcase was basically simulcasting most of its programming from other Sky channels.

Ahh I see. Isn't it a repeats channel and dumping ground for low rating Sky One stuff? If so, this might have contributed to the assumption that it was closing.

cheekyangus 28-08-2021 12:23

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36091231)
Ahh I see. Isn't it a repeats channel and dumping ground for low rating Sky One stuff? If so, this might have contributed to the assumption that it was closing.

Not so just the filler, it has most of the weeks imports during primetime. It's almost a +1hr, +1 day and Mix channel combined, and for Sky Witness shows, not just Sky 1.

And given VM don't have Sky1+1, it's slightly more useful on VM than other platforms. Though with on-demand, yes there's little point.

Media Boy UK 29-08-2021 15:38

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Been told over weekend that Virgin Media UK has issued FOUR extra serial numbers for the following:

-An unknown Channel,
-Sky Max,
-Sky Max HD
-Greatest Hits Radio.

---------- Post added at 15:38 ---------- Previous post was at 14:55 ----------

Digital Spy Fourm is reporting the following Sky Cinema info:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DS Forum's kriZbii (Post 36091233)
September Sky Cinema name changes:

1st Sky Cinema Best of the 80s > Sky Cinema Feel Good
6th Sky Cinema Hits > Sky Cinema Back to School
10th Sky Cinema Feel Good > Sky Cinema Assassins
13th Sky Cinema Back to School > Sky Cinema Hits
18th Sky Cinema Greats > Sky Cinema Batman
20th Sky Cinema Batman > Sky Cinema Greats
20th Sky Cinema Assassins > Sky Cinema Music
27th Sky Cinema Music > Sky Cinema Spies


ScottishSteve 29-08-2021 15:52

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Looks like the CNN App will remain on 360 boxes

https://www.virginmedia.com/help/cnn-channel-closure

Media Boy UK 29-08-2021 16:03

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36091300)
Looks like the CNN App will remain on 360 boxes

https://www.virginmedia.com/help/cnn-channel-closure

Due to CNN also being axe from Freesat and BT it look like Virgin has NOT signed an new deal with WarnerMedia

ScottishSteve 29-08-2021 16:19

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36091303)
Due to CNN also being axe from Freesat and BT it look like Virgin has NOT signed an new deal with WarnerMedia

I know but if you read my post it states the CNN App

The page I linked to is on VirginMedia’s own website.

Is there a CNN app on Virgin Media?
There is a CNN app currently available on our TV 360 box, which provides video features and new stories. If and when CNN make their full live TV service available via app in the UK we will look at bringing it to Virgin Media platform, so keep an eye out.

cheekyangus 29-08-2021 18:43

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36091093)
Now we know that Virgin Media UK has signed an new deal to keep broadcasting the rest of the WarnerMedia channels minus CNN International.

Is Boomerang HD set to launch on Virgin Media as part of this deal?

Did you mean to put more words in this post below? As otherwise it conflicts with the one above. Or at least is confusing.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36091303)
Due to CNN also being axe from Freesat and BT it look like Virgin has NOT signed an new deal with WarnerMedia


Media Boy UK 29-08-2021 19:38

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36091307)
Did you mean to put more words in this post below? As otherwise it conflicts with the one above. Or at least is confusing.

The first post was posted some days ago. I have been asking all my Sources to 100% confirm if Virgin Media has signed the new deal with WarnerMedia but they all point out that CNN is also set to close on FreeSat and BT from Wednesday so they think WarnerMedia has pull CNN from Virgin Media. But one also says "Maybe WarnerMedia wants Virgin to pay £z per head but Virgin only offer them £k per head".

---------- Post added at 19:38 ---------- Previous post was at 19:31 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36091305)
I know but if you read my post it states the CNN App

The page I linked to is on VirginMedia’s own website.

Is there a CNN app on Virgin Media?
There is a CNN app currently available on our TV 360 box, which provides video features and new stories. If and when CNN make their full live TV service available via app in the UK we will look at bringing it to Virgin Media platform, so keep an eye out.

Maybe that mean Virgin Media deal with WarnerMedia in 2022 for all we know?

ScottishSteve 29-08-2021 19:51

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36091308)

Maybe that mean Virgin Media deal with WarnerMedia in 2022 for all we know?

I don’t think they would be pulling the channel if it was coming back.

They seem to be referring to the app possibly being upgraded with the live channel in future

It remains to be see if enough people are willing to pay £20 a year to watch.

Media Boy UK 29-08-2021 20:15

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36091311)
I don’t think they would be pulling the channel if it was coming back.

They seem to be referring to the app possibly being upgraded with the live channel in future

It remains to be see if enough people are willing to pay £20 a year to watch.

I was meaning as an LIVE TV channels as Virgin was not willing to pay what WarnerMedia wanted to keep CNN on Virgin.

For all we know maybe Sky is paying for CNN to broadcast on Astra 28.2. But reports on Digital Spy Forum says that CNN is set to paywall from Wednesday on Sky.

I only think about 40% (Or even higher) of Virgin Viewers will not even notes that CNN has stop broadcasting on Virgin Media.

ScottishSteve 29-08-2021 20:17

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36091312)
I was meaning as an LIVE TV channels as Virgin was not willing to pay what WarnerMedia wanted to keep CNN on Virgin.

For all we know maybe Sky is paying for CNN to broadcast on Astra 28.2. But reports on Digital Spy Forum says that CNN is set to paywall from Wednesday on Sky.

I only think about 40% (Or even higher) of Virgin Viewers will not even notes that CNN has stop broadcasting on Virgin Media.

If enough people kick and scream Virgin and Warner might get back to the table but (I can imagine) until now money has gone Virgins way to carry CNN while CNN now want Virgin to pay them.

Media Boy UK 29-08-2021 23:12

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Can anyone with an TV360 give me the FULL list of channels on the "Radio app" via PM so I can add the list to my TV360 EPG Listings on my blog.

cheekyangus 29-08-2021 23:59

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36091317)
Can anyone with an TV360 give me the FULL list of channels on the "Radio app" via PM so I can add the list to my TV360 EPG Listings on my blog.

It's the same app as on V6. All versions of the app will have the same content, whether it be on TV or mobile.

The Android store description says "110,000 Radio Stations & Podcasts from 163 counties" so getting a list is probably not worth the time spent. Just assume it's virtually everything.

RichardCoulter 30-08-2021 01:14

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36091314)
If enough people kick and scream Virgin and Warner might get back to the table but (I can imagine) until now money has gone Virgins way to carry CNN while CNN now want Virgin to pay them.

Exactly. A suitable compromise would be for CNN to be carried on a cost neutral basis. When the UKTV channels were pulled from VM, VM offered to continue to carry the FTA UKTV channels for free, so it is a possibility.

vincerooney 30-08-2021 01:35

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
americas influence over the world is shrinking it seems...

We were close to getting fox news, close to getting NBC Sky International News and then Fox withdrew after getting complaints from ofcom here and NBC Sky international news being cancelled due to the pandemic...now cnn is closing in the UK except for Sky.

I wonder if NBC are tempted to launch over here and just seize the opportunity. Probably not.

I will miss having american news to watch

epsilon 30-08-2021 02:27

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36091323)
americas influence over the world is shrinking it seems...

We were close to getting fox news, close to getting NBC Sky International News and then Fox withdrew after getting complaints from ofcom here and NBC Sky international news being cancelled due to the pandemic...now cnn is closing in the UK except for Sky.

I wonder if NBC are tempted to launch over here and just seize the opportunity. Probably not.

I will miss having american news to watch

You could always use the phone apps. ABC, CBS, NBC and even CNN are available. FOX is too but for a monthly fee.

---------- Post added at 02:27 ---------- Previous post was at 02:26 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36091317)
Can anyone with an TV360 give me the FULL list of channels on the "Radio app" via PM so I can add the list to my TV360 EPG Listings on my blog.

Phew! that's a long list.

ozsat 30-08-2021 07:28

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
I can video it for you and you copy them down?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36091317)
Can anyone with an TV360 give me the FULL list of channels on the "Radio app" via PM so I can add the list to my TV360 EPG Listings on my blog.


ScottishSteve 30-08-2021 10:11

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
The main radio service has 38 stations on it which are on the EPG on V6

Media Boy UK 30-08-2021 11:58

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36091329)
I can video it for you and you copy them down?

My internet will not allow me to view your video. Thanks anyway.

---------- Post added at 11:58 ---------- Previous post was at 11:15 ----------

Do anyone else think an other news broadcaster (GB News) may ask Virgin to give them CNN Channel number of 607 after Wednesday September 8th?

Hugh 30-08-2021 12:22

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36091332)
My internet will not allow me to view your video. Thanks anyway.

---------- Post added at 11:58 ---------- Previous post was at 11:15 ----------

Do anyone else think an other news broadcaster (GB News) may ask Virgin to give them CNN Channel number of 607 after Wednesday September 8th?

Download VLC.

cheekyangus 30-08-2021 13:58

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36091332)
Do anyone else think an other news broadcaster (GB News) may ask Virgin to give them CNN Channel number of 607 after Wednesday September 8th?

All platforms have EPG policies as you know, I'm not sure how VM's one works, I don't think they publicly publish details. Others I've seen (Freeview/Freesat) consult the adjacent channels and move outwards if the nearest channels aren't interested. VM also wouldn't want to irritate the other broadcasters on their books by allowing a rival to leapfrog them, particularly if they're a significant income generator.

VM are more likely to allow a broadcaster who has numerous channels to leapfrog (e.g. Sky) than a company with one channel.

E4 got vacated BBC3 Ch 106 in return for money, and they've held its old number vacant ever since as if they could reverse it at a moment's notice.

Most shuffles on VM tend to be within the numbers already in the broadcaster's portfolio. E.g. to accommodate Max, it is mostly going to be achieved by shuffling down with existing Sky channels, Ch163 and Ch206 are the only empty numbers being used (from memory), and they didn't use the recently closed FOX UK channel numbers much to many's surprise.

Whatever's involved it might be deemed not worth the hassle, A+E UK channels in the Main section have always languished in the 200s even when gaps have opened up in more favourable positions. Blaze and Crime+Investigation don't seem interested in moving despite being surrounded by +1s, it could be VM's EPG rules didn't make it worthwhile.

Media Boy UK 30-08-2021 17:21

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36091338)
All platforms have EPG policies as you know, I'm not sure how VM's one works, I don't think they publicly publish details. Others I've seen (Freeview/Freesat) consult the adjacent channels and move outwards if the nearest channels aren't interested. VM also wouldn't want to irritate the other broadcasters on their books by allowing a rival to leapfrog them, particularly if they're a significant income generator.

VM are more likely to allow a broadcaster who has numerous channels to leapfrog (e.g. Sky) than a company with one channel.

E4 got vacated BBC3 Ch 106 in return for money, and they've held its old number vacant ever since as if they could reverse it at a moment's notice.

Most shuffles on VM tend to be within the numbers already in the broadcaster's portfolio. E.g. to accommodate Max, it is mostly going to be achieved by shuffling down with existing Sky channels, Ch163 and Ch206 are the only empty numbers being used (from memory), and they didn't use the recently closed FOX UK channel numbers much to many's surprise.

Whatever's involved it might be deemed not worth the hassle, A+E UK channels in the Main section have always languished in the 200s even when gaps have opened up in more favourable positions. Blaze and Crime+Investigation don't seem interested in moving despite being surrounded by +1s, it could be VM's EPG rules didn't make it worthwhile.

:clap:

epsilon 30-08-2021 19:52

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36091332)
Do anyone else think an other news broadcaster (GB News) may ask Virgin to give them CNN Channel number of 607 after Wednesday September 8th?

It would be better to move GB News to a different section completely until it actually has news. Maybe a new genre for technically inept TV.

OLD BOY 30-08-2021 19:58

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
GB News is already planning to add news bulletins, which I agree was a serious omission on their part.

epsilon 30-08-2021 20:18

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36091366)
GB News is already planning to add news bulletins, which I agree was a serious omission on their part.

That will be interesting on a low budget. Let's see how it compares with all of the other things they "planned".

paul0363 30-08-2021 21:21

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36091338)
All platforms have EPG policies as you know, I'm not sure how VM's one works, I don't think they publicly publish details. .

VM's EPG policy is here.

RichardCoulter 30-08-2021 21:41

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36091364)
It would be better to move GB News to a different section completely until it actually has news. Maybe a new genre for technically inept TV.

:D :D :D

Even disregarding the content, they are an utter embarrassment.

In the old days, of course, TV channels were subject to minimum standards of quality control which this outfit would never have passed. Even by todays 'Let the market decide, do as you please' standards, they are the laughing stock of the TV industry.

OLD BOY 30-08-2021 23:40

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36091368)
That will be interesting on a low budget. Let's see how it compares with all of the other things they "planned".

I dare say it will just be a newsreader with clips of footage from other broadcasters. I can’t see it being very impressive!

cheekyangus 30-08-2021 23:43

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paul0363 (Post 36091378)
VM's EPG policy is here.

Much appreciated paul0363.

---------- Post added at 23:43 ---------- Previous post was at 23:41 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36091402)
I dare say it will just be a newsreader with clips of footage from other broadcasters. I can’t see it being very impressive!

There were stories around about launch time and gist was the other broadcasters refused to supply them.

epsilon 31-08-2021 01:35

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36091403)
There were stories around about launch time and gist was the other broadcasters refused to supply them.

That's true. I'm not sure why they would be allowed to take content from a news agency pool without having anything to contribute to it.

busboy125 31-08-2021 11:28

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
1 Attachment(s)
Just got this on 360 box regarding the Sky channel line up from 1st September.
Sorry if already been put up.

Mobes 31-08-2021 16:34

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36091314)
If enough people kick and scream Virgin and Warner might get back to the table but (I can imagine) until now money has gone Virgins way to carry CNN while CNN now want Virgin to pay them.

GUTTED CNN is going :(

ScottishSteve 31-08-2021 16:39

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by busboy125 (Post 36091446)
Just got this on 360 box regarding the Sky channel line up from 1st September.
Sorry if already been put up.

Here is a full screen grab of it

OLD BOY 31-08-2021 17:36

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
I’m not sure what has improved. We have more channels it’s true, but no more new content - just more repeats and simulcasts.

It’s all smoke and mirrors to cover up the fact that more new US content is going to the streamers and less to Sky.

Dave42 31-08-2021 17:52

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36091538)
I’m not sure what has improved. We have more channels it’s true, but no more new content - just more repeats and simulcasts.

It’s all smoke and mirrors to cover up the fact that more new US content is going to the streamers and less to Sky.

apart from SA which we never gonna get is there that much new content to get OB

Media Boy UK 31-08-2021 17:57

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36091542)
apart from SA which we never gonna get get is they that much new content to get OB

Only new content we are missing from Broadcasters on Virgin Media are:

-B4U Plus
-POP Max
-Gemporia Craft
-Sky Atlantic
-Sky News Arabia
-Court TV
-That's TV Gold
-WION

All the rest are HD Channels, +1 Channels or Radio Channels.

https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/p/...adcasters.html

vincerooney 31-08-2021 23:27

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36091544)
Only new content we are missing from Broadcasters on Virgin Media are:

-B4U Plus
-POP Max
-Gemporia Craft
-Sky Atlantic
-Sky News Arabia
-Court TV
-That's TV Gold
-WION

All the rest are HD Channels, +1 Channels or Radio Channels.

https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/p/...adcasters.html

Well you can include CNN in that...

Really shocking the lack of news channels from america now. i'd have thought NBC or CBS would step in now and seize the gap in the market now!

Got CBS and NBC News Now on the firestick but i'll miss wolf blitzer and his glorious beard

krismestry 01-09-2021 00:19

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
GBNEWS is an excellent news channel.

RichardCoulter 01-09-2021 00:44

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36091603)
Well you can include CNN in that...

Really shocking the lack of news channels from america now. i'd have thought NBC or CBS would step in now and seize the gap in the market now!

Got CBS and NBC News Now on the firestick but i'll miss wolf blitzer and his glorious beard

Yup.

On Virgin Media the CNN picture was replaced at two minutes past midnight with a slate advising viewers that it had been removed and to try Sky News, BBC Nrws or Bloomberg as an alternative. They seem to have had the sense not to suggest GB News this time!

There is no mention of the alternative ways to continue to receive CNN.

A minute later the audio was removed and the channel is now silent. Bloody great :(

---------- Post added at 00:44 ---------- Previous post was at 00:42 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by krismestry (Post 36091621)
GBNEWS is an excellent news channel.

Do you mean you think it's excellent editorially, technically or for it's in depth, wide ranging and comprehensive news coverage?

SonicMaster 01-09-2021 00:46

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by busboy125 (Post 36091446)
Just got this on 360 box regarding the Sky channel line up from 1st September.
Sorry if already been put up.

Weird that Sky Arts is the only channel out of sequence with its HD channel, could easily have been avoided. It's not being treated very well considering Sky were touting it as their equivalent to a PSB.

RichardCoulter 01-09-2021 00:48

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36091625)
Weird that Sky Arts is the only channel out of sequence with its HD channel, could easily have been avoided. It's not being treated very well considering Sky were touting it as their equivalent to a PSB.

Yes, that is very odd.

cheekyangus 01-09-2021 08:57

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36091625)
Weird that Sky Arts is the only channel out of sequence with its HD channel, could easily have been avoided. It's not being treated very well considering Sky were touting it as their equivalent to a PSB.

And much worse for those that only have the SD version...several screens more scrolling on my Favourites now.

---------- Post added at 08:57 ---------- Previous post was at 08:47 ----------

Just combed through the EPG following the Sky changes and everything I had Series Linked is on both Showcase and Max at the same time and the Series Links remain working, they've just moved over to Showcase.

Aside from the odd film or sporting event I could pretty much unFavourite Showcase, the whole thing has not improved anything, quite the opposite. Unless they start showing more from the other Sky channels and less of Max on Showcase there's no point, it won't make me "aware" of anything.

1701-e 01-09-2021 09:01

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by krismestry (Post 36091621)
GBNEWS is an excellent news channel.

It's neither a news channel nor excellent [except for right wing nonsense].

Glad I have the firestick for options. Also locally Virgin give us rte so another option for non UK news coverage.

cheekyangus 01-09-2021 12:40

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
The Sky Showcase logo took its sweet time replacing the Sky1 .

Are logos updated at the same time as programme information?

ozsat 01-09-2021 12:41

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Mine updated here - was correct first thing

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36091666)
The Sky Showcase logo took its sweet time replacing the Sky1 .

Are logos updated at the same time as programme information?


cheekyangus 01-09-2021 12:44

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
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Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36091667)
Mine updated here - was correct first thing

Ta. Probably depends when the next check is scheduled in individual boxes.

The name was changed first thing here, just not the logo.


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