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mrmistoffelees 10-11-2020 11:15
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36057243)
Margarine is not butter.
Indeed, glad you've grasped the concept.

Chris 10-11-2020 11:17
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36057248)
Amazing: https://order-order.com/2020/11/10/n...tulated-trump/

No 10 has two messages ready to go which itself isn't a surprise but it seems the graphic designers didn't have two images and simply editing the existing one by fading out the old text!
Elementary Photoshop fail :rofl:

1andrew1 10-11-2020 11:26
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36057248)
Amazing: https://order-order.com/2020/11/10/n...tulated-trump/

No 10 has two messages ready to go which itself isn't a surprise but it seems the graphic designers didn't have two images and simply editing the existing one by fading out the old text!
Lol.
Maybe they just type over it every four years and that's the one left from 2016.

pip08456 10-11-2020 11:37
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36057251)
Elementary Photoshop fail :rofl:
It's fake. Downloaded the original image, opened in photoshop, unable to reproduce.

Damien 10-11-2020 11:43
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
1 Attachment(s)
I've managed to do a bit of it

See attached

Hugh 10-11-2020 11:47
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36057220)
Same. There will certainly be dodgy ballots in a country with 160 million votes or whatever. The question is proving coordinated and mass-scale fraud sufficient to overturn the result, as Barr's statement says.
Clarification from a DoJ official.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/10/dojs...ud-claims.html
Quote:
A DOJ official told NBC News that the memo from Barr does not allege that there are substantial irregularities in the election. It authorizes local U.S. attorneys to investigate if they learn “clear and apparently-credible allegations of irregularities that, if true, could potentially impact the outcome of a federal election in an individual State.”

It added, “While serious allegations should be handled with great care, specious, speculative, fanciful or far-fetched claims should not be a basis for initiating federal inquiries. Nothing here should be taken as an indication that the Department has concluded that voting irregularities have impacted the outcome of any election.”

Sephiroth 10-11-2020 12:04
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
That blooper is icing on the cake. Wonderful.

1andrew1 10-11-2020 12:35
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36057267)
I have to give Tony Blair and George W Bush their due. When it came to delivering a dodgy dossier, they delivered. Not so the Trump Administration. ;)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36057272)
That blooper is icing on the cake. Wonderful.
pip's research suggests it's fake.

Damien 10-11-2020 12:49
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
It's not fake, it's just pretty hard to get the right contrast/brightness setting

Hugh 10-11-2020 13:02
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/tru...avYQb0jtdv7F3p

From the Wall Street Journal
Quote:
A team of international observers invited by the Trump administration has issued a preliminary report giving high marks to the conduct of last week’s elections--and it criticizes President Trump for making baseless allegations that the outcome resulted from systematic fraud.

A 28-member delegation from the Organization of American States followed events in several locations across the U.S., including in the battleground states of Georgia and Michigan, both remotely and with observers at polling stations and counting centers.

“While the OAS Mission has not directly observed any serious irregularities that call into question the results so far, it supports the right of all contesting parties in an election, to seek redress before the competent legal authorities when they believe they have been wronged,” the report said. “It is critical however, that candidates act responsibly by presenting and arguing legitimate claims before the courts, not unsubstantiated or harmful speculation in the public media.”

The OAS assessment followed similar findings by an election observation team from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe.

“Baseless allegations of systematic deficiencies, notably by the incumbent president, including on election night, harm public trust in democratic institutions,” Michael Georg Link, leader of the short-term OSCE observer mission, said last week.

The 20-OAS page report praised state and local officials for efforts to facilitate voting during the coronavirus pandemic and, while it had numerous recommendations for improving the elections system, found no evidence of the pervasive fraud that Mr. Trump, who has not conceded the presidential election, has insisted caused his loss to President-elect Joe Biden.

1andrew1 10-11-2020 13:09
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36057285)
It's not fake, it's just pretty hard to get the right contrast/brightness setting
Thanks for clearing this up.

papa smurf 10-11-2020 13:19
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Georgia Republican Party head casts new doubt on election transparency


David Shafer, the chairman of the Georgia Republican Party, took to Twitter Monday to suggest election officials in Fulton Country tried to pull a fast one on election night.

Shafer said county election officials told “the media and our observers that they were shutting down the tabulation center at State Farm Arena at 10:30 p.m. on election night only to continue counting ballots in secret until 1:00 a.m.”

He continued, “No one disputes that Fulton County elections officials falsely announced that the counting of ballots would stop at 10:30 p.m. No one disputes that Fulton County elected officials unlawfully resumed the counting of ballots after our observers left the center.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/geo...n-transparency

pip08456 10-11-2020 13:30
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36057285)
It's not fake, it's just pretty hard to get the right contrast/brightness setting
If there were any words they would be evident with this using hue, saturation and curves.

There is some interference there but no underlying words.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...2&d=1605014899

Hugh 10-11-2020 14:09
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36057293)
Georgia Republican Party head casts new doubt on election transparency


David Shafer, the chairman of the Georgia Republican Party, took to Twitter Monday to suggest election officials in Fulton Country tried to pull a fast one on election night.

Shafer said county election officials told “the media and our observers that they were shutting down the tabulation center at State Farm Arena at 10:30 p.m. on election night only to continue counting ballots in secret until 1:00 a.m.”

He continued, “No one disputes that Fulton County elections officials falsely announced that the counting of ballots would stop at 10:30 p.m. No one disputes that Fulton County elected officials unlawfully resumed the counting of ballots after our observers left the center.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/geo...n-transparency
So a Georgian Republican is saying that the election process in a State that has been run by Georgian Republicans since 2004, and overseen by a Republican Governor, Republican Lieutenant-Governor, and Republican Secretary of State, wasn’t done properly?

papa smurf 10-11-2020 14:12
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36057297)
So a Georgian Republican is saying that the election process in a State that has been run by Georgian Republicans since 2004, and overseen by a Republican Governor, Republican Lieutenant-Governor, and Republican Secretary of State, wasn’t done properly?
Shafer said county election officials told “the media and our observers that they were shutting down the tabulation center at State Farm Arena at 10:30 p.m. on election night only to continue counting ballots in secret until 1:00 a.m.”

Hope that clears up any confusion you may be experiencing.

1andrew1 10-11-2020 14:15
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36057299)
Shafer said county election officials told “the media and our observers that they were shutting down the tabulation center at State Farm Arena at 10:30 p.m. on election night only to continue counting ballots in secret until 1:00 a.m.”

Hope that clears up any confusion you may be experiencing.

Quote:
UPDATE: Fulton County ballot scanning issue affected just 342 votes
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/politics/...GOHQ365UVQAOA/

Hugh 10-11-2020 14:19
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36057299)
Shafer said county election officials told “the media and our observers that they were shutting down the tabulation center at State Farm Arena at 10:30 p.m. on election night only to continue counting ballots in secret until 1:00 a.m.”

Hope that clears up any confusion you may be experiencing.
Didnt answer the question, though - Republican in a Republican state criticising Republican running of an election...

You keep missing off a bit of that story, which is in the link you provided
Quote:
Richard Barron, the head of the Fulton County Elections, told the Journal-Constitution that he sent home just about all his workers at about 10:30 p.m. on election night. The paper said GOP observers “thought all was done for the night.” But a handful of counters stayed until 1 a.m., along with a state observer, to tally the votes. Barron told the paper that the GOP was welcome to observe.
The State Observer was from the Republican Secretary of State - hope this clears up any confusion you may be experiencing...

downquark1 10-11-2020 14:22
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36057301)
Didnt answer the question, though - Republican in a Republican state criticising Republican running of an election...

You keep missing off a bit of that story, which is in the link you provided
This is not a clever criticism, there are plenty of Republicans who don't like Trump.

Hugh 10-11-2020 14:24
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 36057303)
This is not a clever criticism, there are plenty of Republicans who don't like Trump.
Are you intimating that the Republican Secretary of State in Georgia was trying to help Trump lose?

papa smurf 10-11-2020 14:25
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36057301)
Didnt answer the question, though - Republican in a Republican state criticising Republican running of an election...

You keep missing off a bit of that story, which is in the link you provided
Obviously they deny any wrongdoing it probably carries a prison sentence.

I missed nothing the "Bit of the story" you refer to was there for all to see in the public domain,unlike votes that are counted after hours in secret by devious people.

Hugh 10-11-2020 14:26
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36057307)
Obviously they deny any wrongdoing it probably carries a prison sentence.

I missed nothing the "Bit of the story" you refer to was there for all to see in the public domain,unlike votes that are counted after hours in secret by devious people.
With a State Republican observer present - new definition of "secret" that’s not been available before...

downquark1 10-11-2020 14:28
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36057305)
Are you intimating that the Republican Secretary of State in Georgia was trying to help Trump lose?
It is entirely possible. There was a faction of Republicans that defected to vote for Hillary Clinton, namely those interested in bombing certain middle eastern countries.

1andrew1 10-11-2020 14:30
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36057295)
If there were any words they would be evident with this using hue, saturation and curves.

There is some interference there but no underlying words.
It's now being reported in the Standard and Sky.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsl...rtan-ntp-feeds

papa smurf 10-11-2020 14:37
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36057308)
With a State Republican observer present - new definition of "secret" that’s not been available before...
I'm sorry you're experiencing difficulty in grasping the nettle here,i have put it in front of you to read and inwardly digest, unfortunately it is beyond my capabilities to make you understand it.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 36057303)
This is not a clever criticism, there are plenty of Republicans who don't like Trump.
Don't set the bar too high ;)

1andrew1 10-11-2020 14:41
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36057313)
I'm sorry you're experiencing difficulty in grasping the nettle here,i have put it in front of you to read and inwardly digest, unfortunately it is beyond my capabilities to make you understand it.

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Don't set the bar too high ;)
Papa, you need to chill mate. Your guy lost.

BenMcr 10-11-2020 14:43
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36057313)
I'm sorry you're experiencing difficulty in grasping the nettle here,
Which is what?

If the GOP left due to their own decision because they incorrectly thought vote counting was done, that doesn't mean it was done 'in secret'.

Damien 10-11-2020 14:49
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
It's optional to be in the room but not required. You can't invalidate a set of ballots by choosing not to obverse

papa smurf 10-11-2020 14:51
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36057317)
Papa, you need to chill mate. Your guy lost.
Andrew i didn't get a vote i'm not American,i don't have a "guy"as you put it just an interest in fair play and democracy, putting forward the alternate viewpoint is what keeps a debate going,things may turn a little heated at times but that's just normal.
I can assure you i am chilled :)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36057320)
It's optional to be in the room but not required. You can't invalidate a set of ballots by choosing not to obverse
True dat.

pip08456 10-11-2020 15:59
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36057311)
It's now being reported in the Standard and Sky.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsl...rtan-ntp-feeds
Nice try but they are only reporing what Guido Fawkes site has reported.

Quote:
However, website Guido Fawkes found a congratulatory message for Trump was hidden in the post by Mr Johnson.

Damien 10-11-2020 16:08
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
I did it in an earlier post. Download the image from the Twitter account. The words are there.

1andrew1 10-11-2020 16:45
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36057321)
Andrew i didn't get a vote i'm not American,i don't have a "guy"as you put it just an interest in fair play and democracy, putting forward the alternate viewpoint is what keeps a debate going,things may turn a little heated at times but that's just normal.
I can assure you i am chilled :)
.
:tu:

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Nothing worse than seeing a public break-up.
Quote:
Trump falsely claims Fox News ‘tampered with election’ as feud with Murdoch-owned network escalates

President Donald Trump has falsely accused Fox News of "tampering" with the US election, as his feud with the Rupert Murdoch-owned network escalates and his attempts to hang onto the White House become increasingly desperate.

Mr Trump said Fox's pre-election projections "were so inaccurate" that they constituted "election interference", before lashing out at other polling organisations and news outlets he claimed were "so far off" election results.
The right-wing outlet, which backed Mr Trump throughout his re-election campaign, projected Democrat nominee Joe Biden to win the battleground state of Wisconsin by 17 points.

Mr Biden carried the state by more than 20,000 votes, or 0.7 per cent, according to the Associated Press's latest projection. Mr Trump won 48.9 per cent of ballots cast.

Holed up in the White House, Mr Trump continues to claim - without evidence - that he won the “rust belt” state, which turned blue for Mr Biden after flipping Republican red in 2016.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...rtan-ntp-feeds

downquark1 10-11-2020 16:50
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Yes they called Arizona in the first night for Biden then reversed it, according to realclear politics Arizona is in still undecided so it was by any definition an early call.

Damien 10-11-2020 17:04
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Arizona still has not been reversed by Fox or AP. At the moment it looks like they'll get away with it and won't have too. Still they did call it early.

downquark1 10-11-2020 17:08
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
And for context the democrats accused fox of the same thing when they called florida for Bush early.

jfman 10-11-2020 17:25
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
I’m waiting for Biden to win Arizona and Georgia for a bet (odds were 4/5) made on the Wednesday (maybe Thursday).

It doesn’t look like there’s enough votes out there in either state for Trump according to Fox.

Hugh 10-11-2020 17:41
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/10/turk...tion-win-.html
Quote:
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan congratulated President-elect Joe Biden on Tuesday, expressing Turkey’s determination to work closely with the new administration.

Mr K 10-11-2020 18:09
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36057357)
I’m waiting for Biden to win Arizona and Georgia for a bet (odds were 4/5) made on the Wednesday (maybe Thursday).

It doesn’t look like there’s enough votes out there in either state for Trump according to Fox.
Still counting!? Are they now counting these votes at the rate of one vote an hour ?
They should outsource counting to us, Sunderland get it all done in an hour ! (granted it slightly smaller than Arizona...)

papa smurf 10-11-2020 18:15
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36057368)
Still counting!? Are they now counting these votes at the rate of one vote an hour ?
They should outside counting to us, Sunderland get it all done in an hour !
They've probably switched to actually checking and verifying legitimacy of ballot papers now.

Mr K 10-11-2020 18:22
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36057371)
They've probably switched to actually checking and verifying legitimacy of ballot papers now.
You're right there is definitely fraud by the Republicans. The result in no way reflects the polls, so they've obviously committed fraud. ;)
I've no evidence but thats not needed..

papa smurf 10-11-2020 18:26
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Pompeo Says There Will Be A Smooth Transition To Second Trump Administration


https://www.urdupoint.com/en/world/p...n-1082232.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp-Muj0IRls

Damien 10-11-2020 19:25
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
I think it's a just a badly delivered (probably ill-advised) joke?

Chris 10-11-2020 19:37
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36057389)
I think it's a just a badly delivered (probably ill-advised) joke?
I think you're probably right, which is why the only outlet that seems to have picked it up is a foreign language news agency that's associated with Russia's ministry of propaganda. A combination of missing the irony and wishful thinking may have got the better of them.

pip08456 10-11-2020 19:50
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Laughable.

Quote:
When Trump campaign attorneys released a list of 3,000 people who they said voted in Nevada after moving to another state, they said it was evidence of voter fraud in a closely contested battleground state.

Military families and Nevada point to something else: Service members who have voted legally after being transferred elsewhere.
:D:D:D

Link

papa smurf 10-11-2020 19:50
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36057394)
I think you're probably right, which is why the only outlet that seems to have picked it up is a foreign language news agency that's associated with Russia's ministry of propaganda. A combination of missing the irony and wishful thinking may have got the better of them.
https://news.sky.com/story/pompeo-sa...n-win-12129476

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1720645.html


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/...doff-live-news


https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...iBNIhDW8Q876sM

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ransition-to-a

https://www.google.com/search?q=Pomp...w=1680&bih=939

1andrew1 10-11-2020 20:35
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36055855)
Whose call do you think Biden will return first when he's President?*
a) Boris Johnson
b) Angela Merkel
c) Xi Jinping
d) Justin Trudeau
d) Another leader not listed

* Prediction based on Fox News showing Biden ahead by 8%
If anyone guessed d) you were right.

Quote:
Financial Times Mr Biden’s first call was with Justin Trudeau of Canada.
https://www.ft.com/content/8c533029-...a-03ef38a4de07

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36057401)
Laughable.

:D:D:D

Link
If Trump hadn't dodged military draft, he may have been aware of such things.
Quote:
Trump made up injury to dodge Vietnam service, his former lawyer testifies

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump acknowledged to advisors that he made up a fake injury to avoid military service, because “I wasn’t going to Vietnam,” his former lawyer told lawmakers during testimony on Wednesday.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/p...-from-vietnam/

papa smurf 10-11-2020 21:04
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36057422)
If anyone guessed d) you were right.


https://www.ft.com/content/8c533029-...a-03ef38a4de07

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If Trump hadn't dodged military draft, he may have been aware of such things.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/p...-from-vietnam/
What military service did GI joe do ?

Chris 10-11-2020 21:10
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Medically unfit apparently.

Hugh 10-11-2020 21:14
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36057431)
Medically unfit apparently.
And both sons served.

papa smurf 10-11-2020 21:19
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36057431)
Medically unfit apparently.
Just like Trump.

Sephiroth 10-11-2020 21:29
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
The "war" on here is almost amusing as the "lark" going on in the USA!

papa smurf 10-11-2020 21:31
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36057435)
The "war" on here is almost amusing as the "lark" going on in the USA!
War? Not a single shot has been fired,it's simply an exchange of views :)

Chris 10-11-2020 21:35
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
TBH I’m slightly bemused that military service is still a ‘thing’ when it comes to presidents. If Kamala Harris gets a nomination in 2024 will anyone try to make an issue of her not having been in the military?

1andrew1 10-11-2020 21:40
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36057430)
What military service did GI joe do ?
Nice try but irrelevant whataboutery. :D

The President Elect hasn't complained about 3,000 people who voted in Nevada after moving to another state. :shrug:

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36057432)
And both sons served.
Just like Tr...oh, hang on a sec!

Damien 10-11-2020 22:00
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36057438)
TBH I’m slightly bemused that military service is still a ‘thing’ when it comes to presidents. If Kamala Harris gets a nomination in 2024 will anyone try to make an issue of her not having been in the military?
It's become less common as the WW2 generation died. I looked it up and was surprised how common it was until Clinton: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...litary_service

What's also interesting is that no veteran of Vietnam has ever become President despite it being the other major American war. You would expect at least one given how many Americans went but when I think about it every nominee who served lost their race: Al Gore, John Kerry and McCain. George Bush is on there but he didn't really serve in Vietnam.

In America, it seems like military service was an important qualifier for President until one day it wasn't.

papa smurf 10-11-2020 22:09
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36057438)
TBH I’m slightly bemused that military service is still a ‘thing’ when it comes to presidents. If Kamala Harris gets a nomination in 2024 will anyone try to make an issue of her not having been in the military?
if your not stupid enough to get shot at gassed and bombed your not worthy:nworthy:

Pierre 10-11-2020 22:20
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36057438)
TBH I’m slightly bemused that military service is still a ‘thing’ when it comes to presidents. If Kamala Harris gets a nomination in 2024 will anyone try to make an issue of her not having been in the military?
Kamala Harris won’t need a nomination, she’ll be president by 2023.

Chris 10-11-2020 22:26
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
:D

Julian 10-11-2020 22:44
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Well, well, well

Quote:
UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson has congratulated Joe Biden on his US election win.

Mr Biden called the PM ahead of the leaders of other major European countries.
That's not what some were expecting......

LINKAGE

Carth 10-11-2020 23:09
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36057447)
Kamala Harris won’t need a nomination, she’ll be president by 2023.
October 2021 is my guess . . could actually be before that, depending how stressed Biden gets with the crap he's 'inherited' ;)

1andrew1 10-11-2020 23:20
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36057453)
Well, well, well

That's not what some were expecting......

LINKAGE
Obviously begging BoJo to give the US a trade deal. ;)

Carth 10-11-2020 23:29
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36057460)
Obviously begging BoJo to give the US a trade deal. ;)

Close Andrew, he actually gave Boris a choice . . . which would you like us to send over, chlorinated chickens or Nigel Farage :D

1andrew1 10-11-2020 23:55
!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36057461)
Close Andrew, he actually gave Boris a choice . . . which would you like us to send over, chlorinated chickens or Nigel Farage :D
:D
I thought for a moment that was going to be the chicken, fox and sack of corn question!

Definitely the chlorinated chicken!

When the time is right, Biden can send Nigel to Moscow to join Donald Trump, Vladamir Putin and Edward Snowden on the golf course. I reckon our Nigel could match the Vlad in the clubhouse drink for drink but Snowden would fall by the wayside quite early on but at least the lift home is sorted as Trump's a non-drinker. :D

TheDaddy 11-11-2020 01:18
Re: !
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36057461)
Close Andrew, he actually gave Boris a choice . . . which would you like us to send over, chlorinated chickens or Nigel Farage :D
You can keep them but we'll have John Lennon back, oh no we cant coz you shot him


Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36057466)
:D
I thought for a moment that was going to be the chicken, fox and sack of corn question!

Definitely the chlorinated chicken!

When the time is right, Biden can send Nigel to Moscow to join Donald Trump, Vladamir Putin and Edward Snowden on the golf course. I reckon our Nigel could match the Vlad in the clubhouse drink for drink but Snowden would fall by the wayside quite early on but at least the lift home is sorted as Trump's a non-drinker. :D
You seen the way donny drives, the guy he made cling on the back was lucky to cling on as long as he did.

Saw something earlier to, one of the postal workers these cases depend on has come out and said very important republicans bribed him to say it

Damien 11-11-2020 07:10
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1720810.html
Quote:
A Pennsylvania postal worker has admitted he made up claims of electoral fraud in the battleground state, according to reports.

The case had been cited by Republicans as evidence of widespread ballot tampering and GOP donors had even given $136,000 to the whistleblower.
Pathetic.

Chris 11-11-2020 07:19
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
I wonder if they’ll get their money back.

Damien 11-11-2020 07:55
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
He has released a video saying he doesn't recant at the same time as signing an affidavit doing so. It appears he wants to keep saying it so long as there is no legal document or testimony to that fact.

Chris 11-11-2020 08:09
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Given that the Trump strategy is all about narrative rather than hard evidence I’d say this is probably what his lawyers were hoping for. They’re pursuing the strategy of repeating the lie often enough that people start assuming it’s true.

1andrew1 11-11-2020 09:26
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36057490)
Given that the Trump strategy is all about narrative rather than hard evidence I’d say this is probably what his lawyers were hoping for. They’re pursuing the strategy of repeating the lie often enough that people start assuming it’s true.
And quite a few die hard Trump supporters will believe there's no smoke without fire, some will even donate and continue to genuinely the Democrats are corrupt and have stolen the election from them.

Their flawed cause is aided by the US voting system which is not geared up for operating in an environment of social media and 24 hour news channels.

Hugh 11-11-2020 10:04
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36057445)
if your not stupid enough to get shot at gassed and bombed your not worthy:nworthy:
That’s a helluva comment on the day before Remembrance Day.

"Lest we forget"?

Sephiroth 11-11-2020 11:11
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36057502)
That’s a helluva comment on the day before Remembrance Day.

"Lest we forget"?
Your virtue signalling bears no relation to the meaning behind Papa's observation.

Chris 11-11-2020 11:30
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36057509)
Your virtue signalling bears no relation to the meaning behind Papa's observation.
Given that Hugh was manning the Fulda Gap before many of us here were born, I think it's unlikely his thoughts on remembrance day have anything to do with virtue signalling.

Sephiroth 11-11-2020 11:34
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36057514)
Given that Hugh was manning the Fulda Gap before many of us here were born, I think it's unlikely his thoughts on remembrance day have anything to do with virtue signalling.
For what the Fulda Gap has to do with Papa's observations and the US elections your virtue signalling of Hugh's virtue signalling is mildly amusing.

Carth 11-11-2020 12:17
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Is 'virtue signalling' the same as flicking a V behind someone's back? :D

papa smurf 11-11-2020 12:21
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36057528)
Is 'virtue signalling' the same as flicking a V behind someone's back? :D
Virtue signalling is a pejorative neologism for the conspicuous and disingenuous expression of moral values with the intent to enhance one's own image.

Carth 11-11-2020 12:27
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36057530)
Virtue signalling is a pejorative neologism for the conspicuous and disingenuous expression of moral values with the intent to enhance one's own image.
oh :eh:

I'll just stick with the V thanks ;)

1andrew1 11-11-2020 12:41
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36057509)
Your virtue signalling bears no relation to the meaning behind Papa's observation.
You're confusing virtue-signalling with empathy for what servicemen have to endure from someone who's served his country. On Remembrance Day of all days.

Sephiroth 11-11-2020 13:28
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36057535)
You're confusing virtue-signalling with empathy for what servicemen have to endure from someone who's served his country. On Remembrance Day of all days.
Nothing whatsoever to do with Papa's observations. What's the matter with you?

Chris 11-11-2020 13:39
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36057542)
Nothing whatsoever to do with Papa's observations. What's the matter with you?
"not stupid enough to get shot at gassed and bombed" was quite obviously derogatory towards all service personnel, everywhere, who are "stupid" for signing up for a service where being "shot at, gassed and bombed" is an occupational hazard. It's derogatory any day of the year but at the one time of year we're meant to be pausing and reflecting on what this means for service personnel and those they leave behind when they are KIA, it is particularly insensitive.

I've no need to ask what's the matter with you; you clearly have serious issues with empathy, or rather lack thereof.

Sephiroth 11-11-2020 13:50
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36057548)
"not stupid enough to get shot at gassed and bombed" was quite obviously derogatory towards all service personnel, everywhere, who are "stupid" for signing up for a service where being "shot at, gassed and bombed" is an occupational hazard. It's derogatory any day of the year but at the one time of year we're meant to be pausing and reflecting on what this means for service personnel and those they leave behind when they are KIA, it is particularly insensitive.

I've no need to ask what's the matter with you; you clearly have serious issues with empathy, or rather lack thereof.
The hypocrisy of the attack on Papa is that had he made the observation a week or so later, the virtue signalling would not have occurred.
And since Papa's observation was irrelevant to the Remembrance Day context none of this virtue signalling should have occurred.

Hugh 11-11-2020 15:06
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36057551)
The hypocrisy of the attack on Papa is that had he made the observation a week or so later, the virtue signalling would not have occurred.
And since Papa's observation was irrelevant to the Remembrance Day context none of this virtue signalling should have occurred.
I would have found it offensive at any time, as it states that you have to be stupid to serve your country - if you believe that is "virtue signalling", that is your right (one of the rights that I and others served to preserve ;) ).

Damien 11-11-2020 15:16
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Another case thrown out because it's based on hearsay: https://upnorthlive.com/news/local/m...ampaign-claims

Quote:
LANSING – Late this afternoon Timothy Kenny, chief judge of Michigan’s Third Circuit Court, denied a petition seeking preliminary injunctive relief that would have required Detroit and Wayne County to retain all ballots and poll books and would prevent the Wayne County Board of Canvassers from certifying election results.

In his decision in Stoddard, et.al. v City Election Commission of the City of Detroit, et.al., Judge Kenny said “Plaintiffs’ allegation is mere speculation and are unable to meet their burden for the relief sought.”
This is happening a lot.

1andrew1 11-11-2020 16:11
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36057572)
Another case thrown out because it's based on hearsay: https://upnorthlive.com/news/local/m...ampaign-claims

This is happening a lot.
I think the KPI for the Tump camp is not the win rate but the amount of money the bank balance of the election debts fund.

Sephiroth 11-11-2020 16:47
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36057578)
I think the KPI for the Tump camp is not the win rate but the amount of money the bank balance of the election debts fund.
Good point. 50% for a sure fire loser's campaign and 50% to pay off campaign debt. Cynical if nothing else.

Damien 11-11-2020 17:06
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
They've changed it. It no longer goes to the campaign's debts but a separate organisation.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trump-fund...191827269.html


Quote:
After Election Day, the Trump campaign launched an aggressive fundraising effort that includes relentless texts and emails to supporters soliciting donations for an "Official Election Defense Fund." But the fine print of the Trump campaign's donations page reveals that "60% of each contribution first to Save America, up to $5,000/$5,000," the president's newly established PAC.

The fine print initially stated that the same percentage of funds was going toward paying down the campaign's debt, but the detailed fine print says that after up to $5,000 of the first 60% of the contribution goes to Save America, the rest of that 60%, up to $2,800/$5,000, goes to the Trump campaign's "recount account."
So it's a 60/40 split with the large tranche going to the PAC rather than the legal fund.

The super PAC will be able to pay for future rallies, adverts and an eventual run in 2024 I suspect.

Maggy 11-11-2020 17:55
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Question! If the Democrats cheated on the election how come they didn’t cheat in the Senate elections and give themselves a working majority in the Senate?

peanut 11-11-2020 18:06
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36057615)
Question! If the Democrats cheated on the election how come they didn’t cheat in the Senate elections and give themselves a working majority in the Senate?
Because that'll just make it a bit too obvious. (joke).

Seriously though, it's hard to take Trump seriously when he said he won't accept it if he lost before any of the results came in. Now he's starting to look even more pathetic than he already is.

Dave42 11-11-2020 19:19
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36057615)
Question! If the Democrats cheated on the election how come they didn’t cheat in the Senate elections and give themselves a working majority in the Senate?
exactly :clap::clap: and remember he said same in 2016 when he thought he was gonna lose

Hugh 11-11-2020 19:29
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36057632)
exactly :clap::clap: and remember he said same in 2016 when he thought he was gonna lose
And in the 2016 Republican Primaries...

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dona...ry?id=42738506

TheDaddy 11-11-2020 20:24
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36057615)
Question! If the Democrats cheated on the election how come they didn’t cheat in the Senate elections and give themselves a working majority in the Senate?
I said the same of here three days ago, they didn't even go to the trouble of cheating Moscow Mitch out of his seat. For people with such a long history of cheating they're not very good at it

Damien 11-11-2020 20:48
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36057639)
I said the same of here three days ago, they didn't even go to the trouble of cheating Moscow Mitch out of his seat. For people with such a long history of cheating they're not very good at it
You would at least take lower profile Senate seats. Being in control of the Senate puts you in control of various committees and allows you to have investigations so if you're going to rig anything make sure you take control of the body that could expose it.

Lindsey Graham, a.k.a 'weasel boy', will be pushing for investigations forever now. At least until a bigger boy comes along he can suck up too.

Mick 11-11-2020 22:08
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
The Democrats behave a lot worse, holding hoax investigations.

1andrew1 11-11-2020 22:17
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36057646)
You would at least take lower profile Senate seats. Being in control of the Senate puts you in control of various committees and allows you to have investigations so if you're going to rig anything make sure you take control of the body that could expose it.
Exactly. The accusations of vote-rigging are just self-projection as this article from 2019 shows.
Quote:
A Republican operative in North Carolina has been charged in connection with a voter-turnout effort that investigators said was intended to manipulate the results of a now-overturned general election for Congress last year.

In an indictment announced on Tuesday, the operative, L. McCrae Dowless Jr., was accused of obstruction of justice and illegal possession of an absentee ballot, among other charges. Seven other people were also indicted in connection with the election fraud inquiry, but prosecutors said the charges against one person were inadvertent and would be dismissed.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/30/u...ndictment.html

Hugh 12-11-2020 00:16
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
1 Attachment(s)
Fund-raising email from the Trump campaign
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...4&d=1605139902

Stephen 12-11-2020 01:15
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Jeez, that stinks of desperation.

Carth 12-11-2020 02:03
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
I have an infallible fall back plan for most people in positions of influence & power

I ask myself "would I buy a second hand car from this person?"


:D

Pierre 12-11-2020 09:17
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36057697)
I have an infallible fall back plan for most people in positions of influence & power

I ask myself "would I buy a second hand car from this person?"


:D
only if it has a bigly engine and beautiful wheels, the best wheels actually and kwikfit are going to pay for the tyres

Maggy 12-11-2020 09:23
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36057708)
only if it has a bigly engine and beautiful wheels, the best wheels actually and kwikfit are going to pay for the tyres

:D

1andrew1 12-11-2020 09:28
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36057697)
I have an infallible fall back plan for most people in positions of influence & power

I ask myself "would I buy a second hand car from this person?"

:D
On that basis, I'd always be taking the bus. :D

I did think Giuliani's presentation in the Four Seasons (Landscape Gardening) car park was going to be some kind of dodgy car auction - vehicles sold as seen, appearing in your town for one afternoon only!

---------- Post added at 09:28 ---------- Previous post was at 09:24 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36057693)
Jeez, that stinks of desperation.
Agreed. I think I've seen far worse ones posted here eg You ignored the President, you ignored...don't ignore me.."

Damien 12-11-2020 10:34
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
I still want to know if the Four Seasons thing was really a mixed up booking or not.

papa smurf 12-11-2020 10:35
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick backs "Trump's efforts," offers $1 million reward for "voter fraud" tips


"Whistleblowers and tipsters should turn over their evidence to local law enforcement. Anyone who provides information that leads to an arrest and final conviction of voter fraud will be paid a minimum of $25,000," said Patrick in a news release.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dan-pat...raud-evidence/


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