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Raider999 17-07-2019 19:40
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36003041)
Because you can go straight to the programme you want without waiting for the scheduled time. If you have missed the linear spot, you can still see it via on demand.

As far as sport is concerned, it is true that there are problems to be overcome, but we are getting there, and the latency problems will be resolved soon - the BBC has already worked out how. We will see just how close we are when Amazon stream the football in December.
Interesting, not sure how you can watch a football match without waiting for the scheduled time, but if you can enlighten me I will be able to clean up at the bookies:D

Mad Max 17-07-2019 20:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36003081)
Interesting, not sure how you can watch a football match without waiting for the scheduled time, but if you can enlighten me I will be able to clean up at the bookies:D
To be fair, I'm sure OB wasn't talking about live football.

jfman 17-07-2019 20:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36003081)
Interesting, not sure how you can watch a football match without waiting for the scheduled time, but if you can enlighten me I will be able to clean up at the bookies:D
The same bookies won't be pleased if streaming prevents in play betting due to 1-2 minute delays.

OLD BOY 18-07-2019 07:27
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36003096)
The same bookies won't be pleased if streaming prevents in play betting due to 1-2 minute delays.
The BBC is reported to have worked out how to resolve the latency issues with streaming.

jfman 18-07-2019 07:54
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36003132)
The BBC is reported to have worked out how to resolve the latency issues with streaming.
Has it been deployed? Has anyone tested it on this forum? Is it widely available technology? I'm sure iPlayer is still behind "live".

So many questions, so little time.

cheekyangus 18-07-2019 09:07
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36003132)
The BBC is reported to have worked out how to resolve the latency issues with streaming.
The article I read was more that they had developed a way to greatly improve the situation, I wasn't under the impression that they had resolved it, there would be bigger headlines if it had been resolved.

OLD BOY 18-07-2019 09:43
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36003080)
What's an Amazon app on the V6 got to do with the economic viability (or otherwise?) of a streaming platform? An Amazon app on Virgin was literally a 50/50 guess. Unless Virgin start funding it, or Amazon start doing promos for Virgin customers, it's an economic zero net effect.

It's a quick win for Virgin's PR team to say you can watch all the football on a V6 box at Christmas*.

*seperate subscription to Amazon Prime required.



And lose access to up to 11 million set top boxes. I can see why you aren't good at this economics thing.
If I remember correctly, you were arguing that Amazon on the V6 was of no economic benefit to Virgin. A quick win for Virgin? On thet we are agreed.

Virgin can still make a case for having their boxes even without the linear channels.

Hugh 18-07-2019 09:50
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36003147)
The article I read was more that they had developed a way to greatly improve the situation, I wasn't under the impression that they had resolved it, there would be bigger headlines if it had been resolved.
My friend is a Technical Architect with the BBC - they don’t have a solution (yet).

Here’s the article

https://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2018-0...ideo-streaming
Quote:
we can show what is possible in terms of low latency distribution, though it’s fair to say that some additional delay is likely to return here if we were to take our prototype and scale it up for full production use.

OLD BOY 18-07-2019 09:54
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36003157)
My friend is a Technical Architect with the BBC - they don’t have a solution (yet).
I posted an article a little while ago indicating that the Beeb knew how to resolve this and it seemed to indicate that it would not take that long to sort this out. Maybe that article was a little on the optimistic side.

BenMcr 18-07-2019 09:55
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36003147)
The article I read was more that they had developed a way to greatly improve the situation, I wasn't under the impression that they had resolved it, there would be bigger headlines if it had been resolved.
Indeed, it's on their own website:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-45499784

Although I had thought that currently the BBC are focused on getting Ultra HD lag down to the same levels as their normal streaming services, rather than any total fix against broadcast

But then there is already differences between Freeview, cable and satellite delivery, so it's not like a streaming lag is unique.

jfman 18-07-2019 09:57
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
The V6 will be dead and buried with the old Pace boxes by the time there's no linear channels.

I still don't expect Virgin to see greater sales from this, but if it costs next to nothing it's harmless.

Inactive Digital 18-07-2019 11:13
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
New Sky deal includes UHD, but not Atlantic:
https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2019...-virgin-media/

denphone 18-07-2019 11:22
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 36003189)
New Sky deal includes UHD, but not Atlantic:
https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2019...-virgin-media/
Excellent that UHD content is going to be available to Virgin for the first time.

Dave42 18-07-2019 11:29
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
it great we be getting sport and movies in UHD but look like I was right about VM never getting SA sadly

RichardCoulter 18-07-2019 11:29
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
E! is going HD.

From 1/8/19 Comedy Central +1 (ROI) will be closing.

denphone 18-07-2019 11:39
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36003195)
it great we be getting sport and movies in UHD but look like I was right about VM never getting SA sadly
Don't tell OB that Dave.:D

jfman 18-07-2019 11:59
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Time to keep an eye out for Now TV deals.

cheekyangus 18-07-2019 12:12
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
The wording doesn't really say it, but could the wording be interpreted as the Comcast channels being HD swapped out?
https://www.virginmedia.com/corporat...d-the-industry

In other news, Discovery is reorganising their EPG numbers on Sky, something similar could be coming soon to VM. The short version is Good Food is being booted to the bottom and everything else is being moved up to next highest. Obviously VM is divided into categories more the Sky so they might do nothing on VM. Reading between the lines this could also mean Good Food is being closed.
https://www.rxtvlog.com/2019/07/disc...ls-on-sky.html

OLD BOY 18-07-2019 12:48
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36003195)
it great we be getting sport and movies in UHD but look like I was right about VM never getting SA sadly
Ah, well, time to give up on that one, I guess. I will have to keep my Roku stick after all.

Aguero9320 18-07-2019 12:55
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Does this new deal mean the remaining basic channels like Pick +1, Sky1 +1, Sky Racing HD will arrive with E! HD?

muppetman11 18-07-2019 13:12
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36003210)
Ah, well, time to give up on that one, I guess. I will have to keep my Roku stick after all.
It's probably that Sky wants to keep Atlantic to place it's bigger budget shows on and the only way to get the content is through Sky themselves or their streaming service Now TV.

Joedm45 18-07-2019 13:16
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36003199)
Time to keep an eye out for Now TV deals.
Deals are getting more difficult these days since they managed to get eBay/Amazon to remove cheap voucher listings.

Although what really makes me laugh is the £10 2 month entertainment passes that are sold in supermarkets, better than paying £7.99 a month on the credit card.

That's what I do anyway

OLD BOY 18-07-2019 13:20
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36003213)
It's probably that Sky wants to keep Atlantic to place it's bigger budget shows on and the only way to get the content is through Sky themselves or their streaming service Now TV.
You might be right, but after their press release on the BT deal, my guess is that Sky IS making Atlantic available to VM but at a price VM is not prepared to pay. That is the only way the press release makes sense to me.

I don't think that Now TV is on the cards as a streaming service to VM customers either, so it looks as though BT has stolen a march on us.

jfman 18-07-2019 13:23
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36003217)
You might be right, but after their press release on the BT deal, my guess is that Sky IS making Atlantic available to VM but at a price VM is not prepared to pay. That is the only way the press release makes sense to me.

I don't think that Now TV is on the cards as a streaming service to VM customers either, so it looks as though BT has stolen a march on us.
Sky have always maintained it's channels are available at what it considers a fair price.

You're just clutching at straws with the BT press release rather than admitting you were wrong.

OLD BOY 18-07-2019 13:33
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36003219)
Sky have always maintained it's channels are available at what it considers a fair price.

You're just clutching at straws with the BT press release rather than admitting you were wrong.
I was not wrong about reference to 'all major TV platforms' but clearly my conclusion about Atlantic turned out to be incorrect.

Incidentally, one curious sentence appeared in Virgin's own press release. It states as one of the elements of the new deal:

'Increased on demand rights meaning that customers can dive deeper into Sky’s collection of films, shows and sports events'

So it is not impossible that we may get SA shows via on demand box sets only (ie no live Sky Atlantic channel).

Pure speculation of course, but it would be an elegant solution if true. Sky could continue to state that Sky Atlantic only appeared on the Sky EPG, while BT gets the content through Now TV and Virgin Media through box sets. Win-win all round.

jfman 18-07-2019 13:34
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You're not wrong just incorrect haha. Okay.

Legendkiller2k 18-07-2019 13:35
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joedm45 (Post 36003215)
Deals are getting more difficult these days since they managed to get eBay/Amazon to remove cheap voucher listings.

Although what really makes me laugh is the £10 2 month entertainment passes that are sold in supermarkets, better than paying £7.99 a month on the credit card.

That's what I do anyway
CDkeys is very good for Nowtv entertainment vouchers often they have 5 months for £22. https://www.cdkeys.com/top-up-cards/...t-5-month-pass

nialli 18-07-2019 13:42
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
https://www.whathifi.com/news/virgin...ontent-in-2020

OLD BOY 18-07-2019 13:43
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36003225)
You're not wrong just incorrect haha. Okay.
I was not wrong or 'incorrect' on what a major TV platform was, jfman. But yes, very funny.

Media Boy UK 18-07-2019 14:14
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 36003212)
Does this new deal mean the remaining basic channels like Pick +1, Sky1 +1, Sky Racing HD will arrive with E! HD?
No Idea.

jfman 18-07-2019 14:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36003230)
I was not wrong or 'incorrect' on what a major TV platform was, jfman. But yes, very funny.
If you are that good at reading the collective mind of Sky in using a subjective term you should ought to have known we weren't getting Sky Atlantic.

Media Boy UK 18-07-2019 14:20
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Media Boy Blog will be updated later today.

OLD BOY 18-07-2019 14:50
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36003236)
If you are that good at reading the collective mind of Sky in using a subjective term you should ought to have known we weren't getting Sky Atlantic.
I cannot read minds, jfman. I merely stated that Virgin Media, being second only to Sky in terms of the number of subscribers on pay tv platforms, was correctly described as a major tv platform. BT, of course, comes in as a poor third.

If we do get SA programming through on demand, that would suit me fine, and would be a similar sort of arrangement as BT, but through box sets instead of a separate streaming service.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 36003212)
Does this new deal mean the remaining basic channels like Pick +1, Sky1 +1, Sky Racing HD will arrive with E! HD?
E!HD will be in there and this is confirmed in Virgin's press release. Sky Racing HD must be considered as a possibility although not specifically mentioned. I doubt we will get any +1 channels but cannot rule it out.

Media Boy UK 18-07-2019 16:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36003240)
These channels are not specifically mentioned in Virgin's press release. Personally, I doubt it, except that E!HD and Sky Racing HD must be considered possibilities.
Along with CNBC HD.

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I can't wait to see what is going to happen with Sky Sports HD £7 EXTRA per month.

Will it be drop and all Sky Cinema SD and Sky Sports SD Channels drop with Sky Sports Racing HD launching on Virgin Channel 511?

Will Universal HD and SYFY HD move to sit beside Sky One HD and Sky Witness HD from Channel 109*?

The next few months will be good for Virgin Media and Cable Forum.

*We may see:

109. Sky One HD
110. Sky Witness HD
111. Universal HD
112. SYFY HD
121. Sky Two
122. Sky Arts HD
123. E! HD
135. Pick
136. Challenge
137. Real Lives
138. Sky One +1
139. Sky Witness +1
140. Universal +1
156. SYFY +1
160. Pick +1
164. Challenge +1
165. Real Lives +1

Or due to OFCOM and BBC/S4C: https://www.rxtvlog.com/2019/07/how-...-you-find.html

109. BBC ALBA
110. S4C HD
111. Sky One HD
112. Sky Witness HD
121. Universal HD
122. SYFY HD
123. Sky Two
135. Sky Arts HD
136. E! HD
137. Pick
138. Challenge
139. Real Lives
140. Sky One +1
156. Sky Witness +1
160. Universal +1
164. SYFY +1
165. Pick +1
180. Challenge +1
206. Real Lives +1

All Channel numbers in this post is just the views of MEDIA BOY HQ.

cheekyangus 18-07-2019 16:55
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The OFCOM thing only needs Alba/S4C in Top 24, and probably only in their relevant markets. If 108 is empty in Wales, because 101 is HD (can someone in Wales confirm), that solves one of them. The table for OFCOM didn't mention BBC Scotland Channel so they must be OK with it being in 160s in rest of UK.

Media Boy UK 18-07-2019 17:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36003269)
The OFCOM thing only needs Alba/S4C in Top 24, and probably only in their relevant markets. If 108 is empty in Wales, because 101 is HD (can someone in Wales confirm), that solves one of them. The table for OFCOM didn't mention BBC Scotland Channel so they must be OK with it being in 160s in rest of UK.
RXTVLog Reports:

Quote:
Welsh language broadcaster S4C will have to be given a higher slot on Virgin Media's UK-wide channel list by January 2021, so that it appears among the first 24 slots on the channel list.
Gaelic service BBC Alba will need to be found a higher slot on Virgin by 2021, so that it can be seen in the top 24 slots
https://www.rxtvlog.com/2019/07/how-...-you-find.html

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FYI: BBC One Wales HD is on Virgin Channel 101 in Wales.

jfman 18-07-2019 17:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36003240)
I cannot read minds, jfman. I merely stated that Virgin Media, being second only to Sky in terms of the number of subscribers on pay tv platforms, was correctly described as a major tv platform. BT, of course, comes in as a poor third.

If we do get SA programming through on demand, that would suit me fine, and would be a similar sort of arrangement as BT, but through box sets instead of a separate streaming service.

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E!HD will be in there and this is confirmed in Virgin's press release. Sky Racing HD must be considered as a possibility although not specifically mentioned. I doubt we will get any +1 channels but cannot rule it out.
Ah we might get Sky Atlantic content on demand line. I remember that from carriage agreements past. Is there any room for anyone else to clutch on the end of that straw?

denphone 18-07-2019 17:15
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36003275)
Ah we might get Sky Atlantic content on demand line. I remember that from carriage agreements past. Is there any room for anyone else to clutch on the end of that straw?
l somehow doubt it personally.

cheekyangus 18-07-2019 18:41
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36003272)
RXTVLog Reports:



https://www.rxtvlog.com/2019/07/how-...-you-find.html

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FYI: BBC One Wales HD is on Virgin Channel 101 in Wales.
Thanks for the BBC1 Wales confirmation.

My point still stands.

Here is the RXTVlog tweet with a photo of the OFCOM table
https://twitter.com/RXTVlog/status/1148500499261509632

I draw your attention to the Impact On EPGs column.

There are only two mentions of Virgin Media in the table position covering four channels.

OFCOM only mention S4C and BBC Alba in the whole table in regards to Virgin Media. There is no reference to the BBC Scotland Channel. If they wanted the changes to mean all UK regions get all the regional services they would have said BBC Scotland Channel should be lower down on Virgin Media too, since it's on 162 in the rest of the UK. OFCOM not mentioning it suggests they are fine with it being on 162, and outwith the Top 24 for regions other than Scotland, where it is well within the Top 24 at 108.

If, for instance, Sky Basics services HD swapped and shuffled some services down, the current Sky 2, Sky Arts and Pick TV slots lay within the Top 24 and would satisfy the new OFCOM rules. I'm basically suggesting 109/110 won't need to be given over to Alba/S4C because of these OFCOM required changes.

Itshim 18-07-2019 18:48
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36003269)
The OFCOM thing only needs Alba/S4C in Top 24, and probably only in their relevant markets. If 108 is empty in Wales, because 101 is HD (can someone in Wales confirm), that solves one of them. The table for OFCOM didn't mention BBC Scotland Channel so they must be OK with it being in 160s in rest of UK.
108 is not used in Wales .hope this answers your point .

cheekyangus 18-07-2019 18:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36003291)
108 is not used in Wales .hope this answers your point .
Yes. Thanks. :)

Joedm45 18-07-2019 22:02
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36003226)
CDkeys is very good for Nowtv entertainment vouchers often they have 5 months for £22. https://www.cdkeys.com/top-up-cards/...t-5-month-pass
Thanks for the link, I'll give that a go when my current voucher runs out

Media Boy UK 18-07-2019 22:51
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36003290)
Thanks for the BBC1 Wales confirmation.

My point still stands.

Here is the RXTVlog tweet with a photo of the OFCOM table
https://twitter.com/RXTVlog/status/1148500499261509632

I draw your attention to the Impact On EPGs column.

There are only two mentions of Virgin Media in the table position covering four channels.

OFCOM only mention S4C and BBC Alba in the whole table in regards to Virgin Media. There is no reference to the BBC Scotland Channel. If they wanted the changes to mean all UK regions get all the regional services they would have said BBC Scotland Channel should be lower down on Virgin Media too, since it's on 162 in the rest of the UK. OFCOM not mentioning it suggests they are fine with it being on 162, and outwith the Top 24 for regions other than Scotland, where it is well within the Top 24 at 108.

If, for instance, Sky Basics services HD swapped and shuffled some services down, the current Sky 2, Sky Arts and Pick TV slots lay within the Top 24 and would satisfy the new OFCOM rules. I'm basically suggesting 109/110 won't need to be given over to Alba/S4C because of these OFCOM required changes.
I was only on about BBC ALBA and S4C I did not even post anyway today about the BBC Scotland Channel (Outside Scotland) being moved to the top 24 slots by 2021.

Due to Takeovers so far in 2019 Media Boy HQ now think we will hear of new Virgin Media UK deals with Discovery and Disney soon.

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Virgin Media has started an Red Button channel (Like YouTube) test for Prime Video ahead of it launch on Monday.

muppetman11 18-07-2019 23:25
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Virgin Press release on today's announcement.

https://www.virginmedia.com/corporat...d-the-industry

Mad Max 18-07-2019 23:32
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joedm45 (Post 36003215)
Deals are getting more difficult these days since they managed to get eBay/Amazon to remove cheap voucher listings.

Although what really makes me laugh is the £10 2 month entertainment passes that are sold in supermarkets, better than paying £7.99 a month on the credit card.

That's what I do anyway
I'm getting the entertainment package for £3.49 per month....:D

cheekyangus 19-07-2019 00:09
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36003312)
I was only on about BBC ALBA and S4C I did not even post anyway today about the BBC Scotland Channel (Outside Scotland) being moved to the top 24 slots by 2021.

Due to Takeovers so far in 2019 Media Boy HQ now think we will hear of new Virgin Media UK deals with Discovery and Disney soon.

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Virgin Media has started an Red Button channel (Like YouTube) test for Prime Video ahead of it launch on Monday.
I know you hadn't mentioned BBC Scotland Channel today, I was using it as an example of how OFCOM were clearly happy with the dual number solution on VM (since they didn't mention it) and that a similar solution would mean a drastic upheaval wouldn't be required to accommodate it.

denphone 19-07-2019 04:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36003317)
I'm getting the entertainment package for £3.49 per month....:D
You can get it for less then that when you tell them you are cancelling.:D

Tricky Trevor 19-07-2019 07:07
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
I see that Amazon Prime video will launch on Monday

https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...29-fullhouse-A

OLD BOY 19-07-2019 07:28
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36003275)
Ah we might get Sky Atlantic content on demand line. I remember that from carriage agreements past. Is there any room for anyone else to clutch on the end of that straw?
Yes, might. I wouldn't put it any stronger than that. The press release says:

An expanded catalogue of boxsets from Sky’s hit TV shows such as Jamestown, The Reluctant Landlord and the forthcoming comedy Brassic.

Increased on demand rights meaning that customers can delve deeper into Sky’s collection of films, shows and sports events

I just wonder what they mean by 'an expanded catalogue of box sets' and what 'delve deeper into Sky's collection' means. We already have access to the shows on Sky One, Sky Witness and Sky Arts, so what is this other material?

I notice that when they give examples of the kind of shows they mean, those examples are all Sky One shows, so I won't hold my breath.

jfman 19-07-2019 08:04
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
If Virgin Media were getting any Sky Atlantic content we wouldn't be debating ambiguous phrasing of press releases.

Virgin would be shouting it from the rooftops. The greatest combined phone, broadband, TV and mobile package the world has ever seen - £99 a month including Sky Atlantic, BT Sport...

Sky needs to have something to differentiate it's product from Virgin because like for like the Virgin package is far superior at almost every price point.

denphone 19-07-2019 08:07
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36003334)
If Virgin Media were getting any Sky Atlantic content we wouldn't be debating ambiguous phrasing of press releases.

Virgin would be shouting it from the rooftops. The greatest combined phone, broadband, TV and mobile package the world has ever seen - £99 a month including Sky Atlantic, BT Sport...

Sky needs to have something to differentiate it's product from Virgin because like for like the Virgin package is far superior at almost every price point.
To quote my Dad we will get nowt!!!

fox35 19-07-2019 11:47
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36003332)
Yes, might. I wouldn't put it any stronger than that. The press release says:

An expanded catalogue of boxsets from Sky’s hit TV shows such as Jamestown, The Reluctant Landlord and the forthcoming comedy Brassic.

Increased on demand rights meaning that customers can delve deeper into Sky’s collection of films, shows and sports events

I just wonder what they mean by 'an expanded catalogue of box sets' and what 'delve deeper into Sky's collection' means. We already have access to the shows on Sky One, Sky Witness and Sky Arts, so what is this other material?

I notice that when they give examples of the kind of shows they mean, those examples are all Sky One shows, so I won't hold my breath.
I think its referring to even more extra content from the Sky One, Witness, Arts, etc box set archives. As of now, VM only has limited access to SOME of the content in those channel box sets. Sky customers can access ALL the amount of content on those same channel box sets, so maybe the VM new agreement will equal the playing field a bit more?

Legendkiller2k 19-07-2019 13:35
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36003332)
Yes, might. I wouldn't put it any stronger than that. The press release says:

An expanded catalogue of boxsets from Sky’s hit TV shows such as Jamestown, The Reluctant Landlord and the forthcoming comedy Brassic.

Increased on demand rights meaning that customers can delve deeper into Sky’s collection of films, shows and sports events

I just wonder what they mean by 'an expanded catalogue of box sets' and what 'delve deeper into Sky's collection' means. We already have access to the shows on Sky One, Sky Witness and Sky Arts, so what is this other material?

I notice that when they give examples of the kind of shows they mean, those examples are all Sky One shows, so I won't hold my breath.
Imo i think they are on about Skys original content with SKY stating they are going to invest heavily into original content.

cheekyangus 19-07-2019 13:47
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
RXTVlog is reporting that TCM HD is closing on Sky. Apparently it was hosted on Sky's transponder space and it's just part of a continuing trend.

Much like with Lifetime HD, it is said to be continuing on Virgin Media.

https://www.rxtvlog.com/2019/07/tcm-...nd-on-sky.html

MyBraiNz 19-07-2019 13:56
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36003242)
Along with CNBC HD.

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I can't wait to see what is going to happen with Sky Sports HD £7 EXTRA per month.

Will it be drop and all Sky Cinema SD and Sky Sports SD Channels drop with Sky Sports Racing HD launching on Virgin Channel 511?
I'd like to know what happens with this too, its a joke to have to pay that extra for HD.

Lucky for me i got a 12 months Sky Sports (no HD) deal on Virgin for £2.25 a month which ends in February :)

cheekyangus 19-07-2019 14:29
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MyBraiNz (Post 36003357)
I'd like to know what happens with this too, its a joke to have to pay that extra for HD.

Lucky for me i got a 12 months Sky Sports (no HD) deal on Virgin for £2.25 a month which ends in February :)
Possible they'll do the same as they did on Sky last year, remove the two tiers to mean everyone pays the same, decreasing cost for HD subscribers and increasing it for SD subscribers.

Legendkiller2k 19-07-2019 15:29
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36003356)
RXTVlog is reporting that TCM HD is closing on Sky. Apparently it was hosted on Sky's transponder space and it's just part of a continuing trend.

Much like with Lifetime HD, it is said to be continuing on Virgin Media.

https://www.rxtvlog.com/2019/07/tcm-...nd-on-sky.html
Interesting one this as TCMHD has just launched on BTtv too.

muppetman11 19-07-2019 16:09
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36003356)
RXTVlog is reporting that TCM HD is closing on Sky. Apparently it was hosted on Sky's transponder space and it's just part of a continuing trend.

Much like with Lifetime HD, it is said to be continuing on Virgin Media.

https://www.rxtvlog.com/2019/07/tcm-...nd-on-sky.html
I predicted ages ago that Sky would look to cut the number of third party channels it subsidises or includes as part of its entertainment package.

Going forward they'll look to keep its entertainment package competitive with more emphasis on its own content and select third party content and more On Demand.

RichardCoulter 19-07-2019 19:59
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
I suspect it's also due to the cheap capacity on Astra deal that has or is about to expire.

jfman 19-07-2019 21:15
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36003392)
I suspect it's also due to the cheap capacity on Astra deal that has or is about to expire.
Unlikely to be honest. Unless they can move the whole satellite to another slot and make money they'll be content to leave it flying.

Media Boy UK 21-07-2019 15:02
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
JJ20X is reporting that Amazon Prime video (Press Red Button Channel) will launch on Virgin UK Channel 228 on Monday.

Sources: JJ20X/Forum Box.

https://www.forumbox.co.uk/forum/thr...work/?pageNo=2 (See post number 33 on link).

OLD BOY 21-07-2019 16:01
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36003610)
JJ20X is reporting that Amazon Prime video (Press Red Button Channel) will launch on Virgin UK Channel 228 on Monday.

Sources: JJ20X/Forum Box.

https://www.forumbox.co.uk/forum/thr...work/?pageNo=2 (See post number 33 on link).
Yes, that's what Virgin's press release stated.

Media Boy UK 21-07-2019 16:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36003614)
Yes, that's what Virgin's press release stated.
Where?

denphone 21-07-2019 16:18
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36003614)
Yes, that's what Virgin's press release stated.
Unless there is some late technical problem which as we know can happen.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36003615)
Where?
https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...e-on-virgin-tv

Media Boy UK 21-07-2019 16:24
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Thanks for link but I did not see the channel number for Amazon anywhere.

Media Boy UK 21-07-2019 19:01
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36003374)
Interesting one this as TCMHD has just launched on BTtv too.
CNN HD has also launch this month on BT TV.

muppetman11 21-07-2019 19:30
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
When Sky was really pushing HD it was offering all sorts of incentives to broadcasters it would now appear those channels that it feels don't offer great viewership it's now cutting funding off.

vincerooney 21-07-2019 20:52
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Everyone excited for the non event tomorrow of the amazon prime launch. I will be waking up at 7:30am tomorrow for work, i will hurry onto this forum and expect to be massively disappointed with the "failure". I hope you all join me!

Media Boy UK 21-07-2019 20:59
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Virgin Media Kids (Channel 700) has been rename "Ben 10".

Source: Forum Box.

Legendkiller2k 21-07-2019 21:05
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36003637)
Everyone excited for the non event tomorrow of the amazon prime launch. I will be waking up at 7:30am tomorrow for work, i will hurry onto this forum and expect to be massively disappointed with the "failure". I hope you all join me!
Nah as already have it on my bt tv youview box and fire tv box and smart tv lol.

vincerooney 21-07-2019 21:14
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36003641)
Nah as already have it on my bt tv youview box and fire tv box and smart tv lol.
i hate the annoyance of turning my ps4 on and i like new and shiny things like a magpie

Legendkiller2k 21-07-2019 22:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36003644)
i hate the annoyance of turning my ps4 on and i like new and shiny things like a magpie
I agree with this haha i prefer everything on one device.

ScottishSteve 22-07-2019 00:22
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Prime has landed on 228

Saul's Grandad 22-07-2019 00:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36003654)
Prime has landed on 228
Excellent! Signed in and watching the Good Omens trailer as I type to see if it works...it does ;)

newapollo 22-07-2019 01:44
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Signed in and worked straight away, but had to type UHD to watch Good Omens in UHD otherwise it came up as HD. Not a fault with Virgin, but more with Prime, unless you search for UHD you get HD. It's the same using the app on tablet or mobile.

Tricky Trevor 22-07-2019 10:39
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No app then?

KillerCroc1 22-07-2019 10:42
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Originally Posted by Tricky Trevor (Post 36003676)
No app then?
To get the app showing in all apps I had to do a reboot of the V6 box and it's showing now 😉

paul0363 22-07-2019 10:42
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Yes, there's an app. You may need to reboot the box for it to appear (it appeared on one of my V6's by itself, the other box needed a reboot!).

Ddonald2016 22-07-2019 11:46
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
I seen the post below but does there give any estimate with the new contract how long it will take for the material to arrive in UHD and how we would view it.

Digital TV Europe: Virgin Media to offer UHD sports, movies and boxsets from Sky in new deal
Story from Digital TV Europe:

Liberty Global-owned Virgin Media has struck a new multi-year partnership with pay TV operator Sky, enabling viewers to have access to Sky channels including Sky Cinema and Sky Sports as well as making Sky’s UHD TV content, including sport and movies, available to its customers.



Sky’s line up of entertainment, cinema and sports channels will continue to be available on Virgin Media’s TV platform, with Virgin customers set to enjoy new Ultra HD linear and additional video-on-demand content from the pay TV operator next year.

The new content will include Sky Cinema Original films and live sports in UHD, along with Sky original drama on demand, including shows like Jamestown and the forthcoming comedy Brassic, starring Michelle Keegan.

The UHD content will be available on Virgin Media’s UHD V6 box.

NBCUniversal’s suite of channels, including Universal, E! and SyFy, are included as part of the partnership, with Virgin Media customers also able to watch Sky Cinema through the Virgin TV Go app for the first time.

The latest deal between the pair builds on a closer collaboration between them. It follows the launch of Sky’s AdSmart addressable advertising technology to Virgin Media homes.

RichardCoulter 22-07-2019 12:03
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by paul0363 (Post 36003678)
Yes, there's an app. You may need to reboot the box for it to appear (it appeared on one of my V6's by itself, the other box needed a reboot!).
Does it include the Amazon linear channels?

paul0363 22-07-2019 12:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36003685)
Does it include the Amazon linear channels?

Yes!

RichardCoulter 22-07-2019 12:28
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by paul0363 (Post 36003687)
Yes!
Thanks. Looks like VM aren't bothered about the extra competition for some of their linear channels, so this factor at least wouldn't prevent the Now TV app from launching.

jfman 22-07-2019 12:45
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36003688)
Thanks. Looks like VM aren't bothered about the extra competition for some of their linear channels, so this factor at least wouldn't prevent the Now TV app from launching.
I'm sure the fact Virgin pay wholesale to include some of the content on their own platform is a factor.

ScottishSteve 22-07-2019 12:51
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Just been dabbling with the Prime Video app

I noticed it’s not streaming in UHD 4K it is HD only

Also no x-ray info.

My LG TV app has more.

Nevertheless it’s good to be able to do one search for all using the v6

paul0363 22-07-2019 13:04
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36003697)
Just been dabbling with the Prime Video app

I noticed it’s not streaming in UHD 4K it is HD only

Also no x-ray info.

My LG TV app has more.

Nevertheless it’s good to be able to do one search for all using the v6
Streaming fine in 4K here - watching Good Omens just now. You need to search for the 4K version from within the app or you'll get HD by default. However it isn't outputing HDR.

V6 search only appears to bring up the HD version.

fox35 22-07-2019 13:14
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Search facility (from V6 Home screen) not working correctly for me. Prime Video content either not been listed in the generic search or misses episode info etc.?

paul0363 22-07-2019 13:28
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Seems to be working for me although it's not showing the UHD content unless you search from within the app. Just did a search for a few shows I know are on Prime (American Gods, New Amsterdam and The Grand Tour) and the V6 search found them albeit only the HD verions.

ScottishSteve 22-07-2019 15:12
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Amazon never has shown UHD as default you always have to search but if watching a UHD version press the up arrow while playing it says HD and not UHD.

There is no UHD output.

ozsat 22-07-2019 15:22
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I don't think there is anything linear on Amazon which VirginMedia media doesn't offer at all, or offers it much cheaper.

Eurosport is £7 per month on Amazon - unless you get lucky with an offer.
Most of the other stuff is not available on VirginMedia at all - so no worry for VM or Amazon.

Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36003688)
Thanks. Looks like VM aren't bothered about the extra competition for some of their linear channels, so this factor at least wouldn't prevent the Now TV app from launching.


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When I press up on the TiVo remote in the Amazon app it says "Ultra HD" when playting stuff labelled "4K UHD".

Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36003710)
Amazon never has shown UHD as default you always have to search but if watching a UHD version press the up arrow while playing it says HD and not UHD.

There is no UHD output.

ScottishSteve 22-07-2019 15:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36003712)

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[/COLOR]When I press up on the TiVo remote in the Amazon app it says "Ultra HD" when playting stuff labelled "4K UHD".
I might have to do the IT special and turn it off n on again

ozsat 22-07-2019 15:39
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Amazon is a real pain as it always selects the non-UHD version by default on all devices.

muppetman11 22-07-2019 15:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36003720)
Amazon is a real pain as it always selects the non-UHD version by default on all devices.
Completely agree a real pain.

paul0363 22-07-2019 15:42
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36003710)
Amazon never has shown UHD as default you always have to search but if watching a UHD version press the up arrow while playing it says HD and not UHD.

There is no UHD output.
Definitely saying Ultra HD here when you press the up arrow!!

OLD BOY 22-07-2019 19:37
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36003688)
Thanks. Looks like VM aren't bothered about the extra competition for some of their linear channels, so this factor at least wouldn't prevent the Now TV app from launching.
Some competition is bound to occur anyway if an organisation is a super-aggregator of content.

ScottishSteve 22-07-2019 21:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paul0363 (Post 36003722)
Definitely saying Ultra HD here when you press the up arrow!!
A reboot sorted it, now got UHD

DoctorSteve 22-07-2019 22:11
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Also it's pushing out Dolby Atmos (available on the Jack Ryan TV series). Nice they got that sorted too. I would hope they'd be able to do the same with Netflix. I noticed the quality was fairly jerky - may need a reboot myself.

Media Boy UK 23-07-2019 14:06
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Here at Media Boy HQ we got one unknown channel added to "Total Channels" last night.

Also Two "A Message For Parents" channels (Virgin UK Channels 968 and 985) has moved from CO34 to CO70.

Due to them changed multiplex/frequency you will need to re-Add to your Favourites.

SonicMaster 23-07-2019 14:49
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Sony Pictures Television (SPT) is to rebrand its free-to-air film and entertainment channels in the UK under one cohesive Sony-branded portfolio.

Sony Movie Channel will become Sony Movies

Movies4Men will become Sony Movies Action

True Movies will become Sony Movies Classic

True Entertainment will become Sony Channel

All of the channels will be available on Freeview, Freesat, Sky and Virgin Media with new cinematic design alongside a slate of new content.

https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/inter...141414.article

Media Boy UK 23-07-2019 14:55
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36003819)
Sony Pictures Television (SPT) is to rebrand its free-to-air film and entertainment channels in the UK under one cohesive Sony-branded portfolio.

Sony Movie Channel will become Sony Movies

Movies4Men will become Sony Movies Action

True Movies will become Sony Movies Classic

True Entertainment will become Sony Channel

All of the channels will be available on Freeview, Freesat, Sky and Virgin Media with new cinematic design alongside a slate of new content.

https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/inter...141414.article
Any date on when this will happen?

newapollo 23-07-2019 15:13
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No exact date, just the month of September.
Quote:
In September, Sony Movies Channel will become Sony Movies and Movies4Men will become Sony Movies Action.

Additionally, True Movies will be rebranded as Sony Movies Classic, switching in the Christmas period to become seasonal pop-up channel Sony Movies Christmas.
General entertainment network True Entertainment will become Sony Channel, which will mix drama and entertainment with a mix of scripted series and gameshows such as Charlie’s Angels, Starsky & Hutch, and Who Wants To Be A Millionaire.


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