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denphone 19-05-2017 06:29

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35899421)
Talking Pictures, praise the Lord, I'm a believer ;)

l hope you have got that bible next to you now Mr K.:)

Mr K 19-05-2017 13:58

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35899449)
Well who wouldn't be? There's nothing quite like gaining a channel showing fuzzy old, mainly monochrome, films with a 4:3 aspect ratio at a time when the industry is moving towards UHD TV and HDR picture quality. Oh the joy! :rolleyes:

Each to there own, bit it's good to have a choice, old doesn't necessarily mean bad, particularly where films are concerned. The channel shows some rare British stuff that rarely gets broadcast. It does show colour films as a special treat sometimes too ;).
UHD HDR etc, is pointless if the film is crap.

ozsat 19-05-2017 16:05

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Hope here too that Talking Pictures arrives on VM - it isn't just old films as they also have programmes from the old Southern TV library too.

They have even had Mike Read's Runaround on there :-)

OLD BOY 19-05-2017 20:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 35899526)
Hope here too that Talking Pictures arrives on VM - it isn't just old films as they also have programmes from the old Southern TV library too.

They have even had Mike Read's Runaround on there :-)

:o: Ok, let's compromise. I won't object to having Talking Pictures on VM if I can also have Sky Atlantic! :D

Oh, and Dave, I know what you are about to say...!

denphone 19-05-2017 20:45

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35899555)
:o: Ok, let's compromise. I won't object to having Talking Pictures on VM if I can also have Sky Atlantic! :D

Oh, and Dave, I know what you are about to say...!

l will say it for Dave as one suspects he is still in mourning due to his beloved going down.:nono::nono::nono:

Dave42 19-05-2017 22:04

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35899555)
:o: Ok, let's compromise. I won't object to having Talking Pictures on VM if I can also have Sky Atlantic! :D

Oh, and Dave, I know what you are about to say...!

talking pictures has nothing to do with SA man and no SA will never come

theone2k10 19-05-2017 22:49

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35899574)
talking pictures has nothing to do with SA man and no SA will never come

It's already launched just only on sky and nowtv lol.
But watch this space i'm just waiting to hear confirmation on some rumour i been given.

denphone 20-05-2017 04:40

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35899582)
It's already launched just only on sky and nowtv lol.
But watch this space i'm just waiting to hear confirmation on some rumour i been given.

From whom?.;)

dazed&confused 20-05-2017 08:18

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No chance of Sky Sports in UHD then......
I can hear Mr. Murdoch's whisper in may ear getting louder and louder.....

denphone 20-05-2017 08:51

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Originally Posted by dazed&confused (Post 35899594)
No chance of Sky Sports in UHD then......
I can hear Mr. Murdoch's whisper in may ear getting louder and louder.....

Not a hope in hell IMO.

theone2k10 20-05-2017 11:57

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35899592)
From whom?.;)

We have a rumour suggesting some Sky Atlantic content will be arriving on VM via On demand methods, allegedly a new agreement has been made recently and part of the deal was to get some HBO/Showtime content onto the VM platform.
As i said this is rumour only i'm still awaiting other sources to confirm this.

denphone 20-05-2017 12:12

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Don't you just love all these unsubstantiated rumours.;)

Mad Max 20-05-2017 12:20

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35899613)
We have a rumour suggesting some Sky Atlantic content will be arriving on VM via On demand methods, allegedly a new agreement has been made recently and part of the deal was to get some HBO/Showtime content onto the VM platform.
As i said this is rumour only i'm still awaiting other sources to confirm this.


:D:D:D:D:D:D

Dave42 20-05-2017 12:24

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35899595)
Not a hope in hell IMO.

totally agree Den no chance we ever get that either

Ddonald2016 20-05-2017 12:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dazed&confused (Post 35899594)
No chance of Sky Sports in UHD then......
I can hear Mr. Murdoch's whisper in may ear getting louder and louder.....

That's a bigger worry because the new deal will last three or five years. So no sky cinema or sky sports or any sky TV in UHD till 2020 or 2022, so that don't sound good for VM

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35899613)
We have a rumour suggesting some Sky Atlantic content will be arriving on VM via On demand methods, allegedly a new agreement has been made recently and part of the deal was to get some HBO/Showtime content onto the VM platform.
As i said this is rumour only i'm still awaiting other sources to confirm this.

What other stuff as part of the deal, without UHD can't see what left to offer

Dave42 20-05-2017 13:00

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35899613)
We have a rumour suggesting some Sky Atlantic content will be arriving on VM via On demand methods, allegedly a new agreement has been made recently and part of the deal was to get some HBO/Showtime content onto the VM platform.
As i said this is rumour only i'm still awaiting other sources to confirm this.

why would sky allow it to go on demand and not give the channel it does not make sence at all guess it another bs rumour I know you didn't make this rumour

Ddonald2016 20-05-2017 13:48

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35899628)
why would sky allow it to go on demand and not give the channel it does not make sence at all guess it another bs rumour I know you didn't make this rumour

Maybe sky wanted more money but wanted something else like UHD. UHD is worth more than sky atlantic

Chad 20-05-2017 13:57

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35899628)
why would sky allow it to go on demand and not give the channel it does not make sence at all guess it another bs rumour I know you didn't make this rumour

I wouldn't dismiss it mate. It would give some of the old content a second life, and SKY a new revenue stream, without jeopardizing the exclusivity of SKY Atlantic. Could easily see SKY loosening their grip on the likes of Boardwalk Empire, The Borgias, Banshee, Fleming, The Following and Entourage. Shows that are finished and rarely appear on the channel unless repeated in the small hours of the morning.

Better than nothing. Quality shows.

denphone 20-05-2017 14:15

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35899637)
I wouldn't dismiss it mate. It would give some of the old content a second life, and SKY a new revenue stream, without jeopardizing the exclusivity of SKY Atlantic. Could easily see SKY loosening their grip on the likes of Boardwalk Empire, The Borgias, Banshee, Fleming, The Following and Entourage. Shows that are finished and rarely appear on the channel unless repeated in the small hours of the morning.

Better than nothing. Quality shows.

Where is the proof Chad?.

theone2k10 20-05-2017 14:19

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35899616)
Don't you just love all these unsubstantiated rumours.;)

Smarky comments like this are why i don't bother anymore!

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35899628)
why would sky allow it to go on demand and not give the channel it does not make sence at all guess it another bs rumour I know you didn't make this rumour

I guess in a way SKY could use it as a way of saying "look this is what you're missing on SKY" by allowing some of the Sky Atlantic content onto other platforms it could serve as a taster to tempt people over to SKY.
That's the only logical answer i can think of right now m8 my normal sources haven't yet confirmed any of this as of yet.

Chad 20-05-2017 14:23

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35899639)
Where is the proof Chad?.

No proof. My post was intended as a reason why SKY would even consider such a deal. SKY Atlantic has always been viewed as nearly impossible for Virgin to obtain. The idea of some content arriving from HBO / Showtime courtesy of SKY to me seems plausible.

1andrew1 20-05-2017 14:25

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35899640)
I guess in a way SKY could use it as a way of saying "look this is what you're missing on SKY" by allowing some of the Sky Atlantic content onto other platforms it could serve as a taster to tempt people over to SKY.
That's the only logical answer i can think of right now m8 my normal sources haven't yet confirmed any of this as of yet.

Sky's profits have fallen* so there's an incentive for it to try and make more money out of its content. It's done this successfully with Now TV but I think it's more likely now than ever to come to some kind of deal on Sky Atlantic. As I've suggested before, this might be as part of a deal with VM for VM to deploy Sky AdSmart.
(*Sky's costs have risen due to increases in sporting rights costs and the £ falling against the $ 15% since June 2016 whilst advertising income has fallen.)

Ddonald2016 20-05-2017 14:28

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35899640)
Smarky comments like this are why i don't bother anymore!

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I guess in a way SKY could use it as a way of saying "look this is what you're missing on SKY" by allowing some of the Sky Atlantic content onto other platforms it could serve as a taster to tempt people over to SKY.
That's the only logical answer i can think of right now m8 my normal sources haven't yet confirmed any of this as of yet.

Well try tempting us with UHD that seems interesting

theone2k10 20-05-2017 14:32

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Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35899646)
Well try tempting us with UHD that seems interesting

Only info we have about UHD is it's supposed to be arriving in summer this year on VM, won't be from SKY though.
Our guess would be from the likes of Discovery and Eurosport.

denphone 20-05-2017 14:34

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35899640)
Smarky comments like this are why i don't bother anymore.

Nothing of the sort as l am just saying it as l see it as do you want members to sit on the fence?.:)

theone2k10 20-05-2017 14:36

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35899651)
Nothing of the sort as l am just saying it as l see it as do you want members to sit on the fence?.:)

That's how it came across maybe you should of ended it with imo or something, anyway no use arguing lol.

spiderplant 20-05-2017 14:38

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35899595)
Not a hope in hell IMO.

Some here used to say the same about Sky HD channels, Sky On Demand and Sky Sports red button...

Dave42 20-05-2017 14:54

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35899653)
Some here used to say the same about Sky HD channels, Sky On Demand and Sky Sports red button...

only got them because VM sold sky the tv channles it had

denphone 20-05-2017 14:55

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35899653)
Some here used to say the same about Sky HD channels, Sky On Demand and Sky Sports red button...

True SP but l cannot see it without a very naughty price rise arriving with it.;)

Gavin-D 21-05-2017 21:25

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Sky Cinema Disney becomes Sky Cinema Pirates of the Caribbean on Friday 26th for the bank holiday weekend

Media Boy UK 22-05-2017 17:15

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New channels on Worldbox:

NTV Series, NTV Style and NTV Mir has been added to the Russian Package.

And also free to view channel called "Al Araby" has been added to Arabic channels

jj20x 22-05-2017 19:52

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35899890)
New channels on Worldbox:

NTV Series, NTV Style and NTV Mir has been added to the Russian Package.

And also free to view channel called "Al Araby" has been added to Arabic channels

Oops! I was told about those on May 13th but forgot to post the info. :blush:

Mad Max 22-05-2017 20:10

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35899890)
New channels on Worldbox:

NTV Series, NTV Style and NTV Mir has been added to the Russian Package.

And also free to view channel called "Al Araby" has been added to Arabic channels


Really looking forward to this.............:rolleyes:

denphone 22-05-2017 20:49

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35899930)
Really looking forward to this.............:rolleyes:

Bless our Max..;)

OLD BOY 22-05-2017 21:10

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35899930)
Really looking forward to this.............:rolleyes:

Steady, now.... :erm:

Media Boy UK 22-05-2017 21:12

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Getting TiVo 500 box later this week (Watch everything on my V+ box) - no more youtube on the web.

OLD BOY 22-05-2017 21:19

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35899955)
Getting TiVo 500 box later this week (Watch everything on my V+ box) - no more youtube on the web.

Should have gone for the V6, bud. You Tube stutters and fails on the original TiVo, in my experience.

RichardCoulter 22-05-2017 21:44

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35899955)
Getting TiVo 500 box later this week (Watch everything on my V+ box) - no more youtube on the web.

Is this a free upgrade as they phase out the V+?

Media Boy UK 22-05-2017 22:42

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35899964)
Is this a free upgrade as they phase out the V+?

Yes.

nodrogd 23-05-2017 07:12

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35899964)
Is this a free upgrade as they phase out the V+?

Free upgrades if you have the older Scientific Atlanta V+.
The Samsung V+ is still a chargeable upgrade as it can still receive the HD channels after the end of the month.

Ultimate.Conj 23-05-2017 12:37

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It seems Virgin are also giving customers the chance to upgrade from the old Tivo to the V6 for free now too. My mum got a call last Tuesday saying she had been selected for a free upgrade. She accepted and the V6 arrived on the Thursday...I had to do the self-install mind you, she isn't the most tech savvy person in the world, but she's impressed with how quick it is. She even thinks the picture quality is better too.

Mad Max 23-05-2017 12:48

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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35900065)
It seems Virgin are also giving customers the chance to upgrade from the old Tivo to the V6 for free now too. My mum got a call last Tuesday saying she had been selected for a free upgrade. She accepted and the V6 arrived on the Thursday...I had to do the self-install mind you, she isn't the most tech savvy person in the world, but she's impressed with how quick it is. She even thinks the picture quality is better too.

Well if that's the case I will be cancelling everything today if I do not get the same offer!

Ultimate.Conj 23-05-2017 12:51

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35900067)
Well if that's the case I will be cancelling everything today if I do not get the same offer!

You can only ask mate. Not sure why only some customers are selected and others aren't. My mum isn't on the most expensive package either:

Full TV
Sky Movies
100MB Broadband
Weekend Calls

Mad Max 23-05-2017 12:58

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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35900068)
You can only ask mate. Not sure why only some customers are selected and others aren't. My mum isn't on the most expensive package either:

Full TV
Sky Movies
100MB Broadband
Weekend Calls


I will mate, thanks for the info.........

mhatter67 23-05-2017 16:43

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I take it in the foreseeable future VM are not getting any new channels?

RichardCoulter 23-05-2017 16:47

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Maybe those with a SA V+ can get a free upgrade to a TiVo and then get a free upgrade to a V6!

Maybe they're upgrading existing TiVo customers to free up TiVo's to give to V+ customers??

An Asian channel war is predicted on Sky with the advent of a new Asian pack, new channels and conversions to HD. As advertising revenues decrease due to more competition and costs rise (apparently, it costs over a million quid to convert to HD), casualties are expected.

How this will affect VM remains to be seen:

https://www.bizasialive.com/zee-sony...h-hd-channels/

https://www.bizasialive.com/zee-netw...-new-channels/

theone2k10 23-05-2017 17:39

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Originally Posted by mhatter67 (Post 35900108)
I take it in the foreseeable future VM are not getting any new channels?

Mostly apps at mo info we have is vm concentrating on broadband at moment.

Mad Max 23-05-2017 19:06

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35900109)
Maybe those with a SA V+ can get a free upgrade to a TiVo and then get a free upgrade to a V6!

Maybe they're upgrading existing TiVo customers to free up TiVo's to give to V+ customers??

An Asian channel war is predicted on Sky with the advent of a new Asian pack, new channels and conversions to HD. As advertising revenues decrease due to more competition and costs rise (apparently, it costs over a million quid to convert to HD), casualties are expected.

How this will affect VM remains to be seen:

https://www.bizasialive.com/zee-sony...h-hd-channels/

https://www.bizasialive.com/zee-netw...-new-channels/


You know what Richard, I phoned retentions today to see when my contract was up, unfortunately it isn't up till early October this year, so I enquired about being chosen for a free upgrade to a V6, and as I had anticipated, the girl said that the customers were chosen at random, to which I replied, so I've been a customer for 20 years or more and can miss out on a free upgrade given to someone on a lower package and a much lower service in terms of loyalty, and you guessed right, yes she said.
I find this totally disgusting from VM, if anybody deserves a free upgrade it's long term, high paying customers, their PR dept is a friggin joke!

RichardCoulter 23-05-2017 20:34

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This was exactly the attitude of frontline staff when I wanted a V6 ie total and utter indifference, then when I cancelled in protest and said that I would take more business elsewhere too, she effectively just shrugged her shoulders.

I had to pull a few strings to get it sorted out, but I shouldn't have had to and not everyone is able to do this.

This is why I no longer do VM any favours and no longer take non commercial reasons into account when reviewing contracts as they expire. If they no longer appreciate and recognise customer loyalty, then I think that it should be withdrawn.

This attitude does seem to have developed since LG bought the company, in fact I was told at the weekend that complaints sent to the CEO are now simply shoved in with all the other complaints.

theone2k10 23-05-2017 22:40

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35900143)
This was exactly the attitude of frontline staff when I wanted a V6 ie total and utter indifference, then when I cancelled in protest and said that I would take more business elsewhere too, she effectively just shrugged her shoulders.

I had to pull a few strings to get it sorted out, but I shouldn't have had to and not everyone is able to do this.

This is why I no longer do VM any favours and no longer take non commercial reasons into account when reviewing contracts as they expire. If they no longer appreciate and recognise customer loyalty, then I think that it should be withdrawn.

This attitude does seem to have developed since LG bought the company, in fact I was told at the weekend that complaints sent to the CEO are now simply shoved in with all the other complaints.

Other option is to hit them in the pocket and leave completely (if other services are available) best thing i did leaving virgin media no more throttling, youtube works perfectly, no more site blocks either and content i want to see.
For those who say i've gone to darkside or bts spokesperson you know who you are :p: i'm no longer with sky or bt am wrapping up my switch over to Origin for truly unrestricted broadband without traffic managing and none of this nonsense blocking torrents, a lot of torrents are perfectly leagal such as drm expired content, or videos new and upcoming artists want people to see for free etc.

Mad Max 23-05-2017 23:00

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35900161)
Other option is to hit them in the pocket and leave completely (if other services are available) best thing i did leaving virgin media no more throttling, youtube works perfectly, no more site blocks either and content i want to see.
For those who say i've gone to darkside or bts spokesperson you know who you are :p: i'm no longer with sky or bt am wrapping up my switch over to Origin for truly unrestricted broadband without traffic managing and none of this nonsense blocking torrents, a lot of torrents are perfectly leagal such as drm expired content, or videos new and upcoming artists want people to see for free etc.


I agree with you and totally understand, but I love the football and where else can I watch it?

theone2k10 23-05-2017 23:26

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35900162)
I agree with you and totally understand, but I love the football and where else can I watch it?

nowtv skysports pack and grab a sim card of by get btsport1 free.
You know how i watch football via usa services and a vpn.
But i personally don't think the pq is that good on nowtv however on nbcsports it is superb rivals sky hd imo.
Always happy to help in anyway i can if you decide to go down that route mate.

Mad Max 23-05-2017 23:28

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Thx mate, appreciate your help.

denphone 24-05-2017 04:38

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35900165)
nowtv skysports pack and grab a sim card of by get btsport1 free.
You know how i watch football via usa services and a vpn.
But i personally don't think the pq is that good on nowtv however on nbcsports it is superb rivals sky hd imo.
Always happy to help in anyway i can if you decide to go down that route mate.

All companies have their strengths and weaknesses so at the end of the day its about what fit suits the customer the most.

RichardCoulter 24-05-2017 06:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35900161)
Other option is to hit them in the pocket and leave completely (if other services are available) best thing i did leaving virgin media no more throttling, youtube works perfectly, no more site blocks either and content i want to see.
For those who say i've gone to darkside or bts spokesperson you know who you are :p: i'm no longer with sky or bt am wrapping up my switch over to Origin for truly unrestricted broadband without traffic managing and none of this nonsense blocking torrents, a lot of torrents are perfectly leagal such as drm expired content, or videos new and upcoming artists want people to see for free etc.

Not heard of Origin before.

theone2k10 24-05-2017 13:02

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35900180)
All companies have their strengths and weaknesses so at the end of the day its about what fit suits the customer the most.

Exactly sire but no harm in trying to help someone and give advice if they wish to try the online route.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35900183)
Not heard of Origin before.

They based in Yorkshire uk call centres too 38mbs truly unlimited with 10mbs uploads including weekend calls £24.95pm.
They use Plusnets network so it should run like a dream.

denphone 24-05-2017 13:28

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35900212)
Exactly sire but no harm in trying to help someone and give advice if they wish to try the online route..

Indeed.:tu:

Media Boy UK 24-05-2017 16:27

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Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 35900012)
Free upgrades if you have the older Scientific Atlanta V+.
The Samsung V+ is still a chargeable upgrade as it can still receive the HD channels after the end of the month.

I got an free upgrade from Samsung V+.

I got TiVo in today and so far I do not like that I need to record to set an reminder.

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Also my TiVo box has confirm that Sky Cinema Star Wars will be rebrand back to Sky Cinema Greats on Tuesday at 7.15am on Virgin Media.

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Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 35900012)
Free upgrades if you have the older Scientific Atlanta V+.
The Samsung V+ is still a chargeable upgrade as it can still receive the HD channels after the end of the month.

Can you give me an link to that story about HD Channels being removed from Scientific Atlanta V+ boxes?

That news to us.

BenMcr 24-05-2017 16:37

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35900237)
Can you give me an link to that story about HD Channels being removed from Scientific Atlanta V+ boxes?

That news to us.

It's been going on since the end of 2015 - it started with the Sky Sports and Cinema HD channels:
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...e/td-p/2973856

What is actually now happening is that all SA V+ HD boxes will be disconnected completely - all channels will be removed, not just HD ones.

Media Boy UK 24-05-2017 16:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35900245)
It's been going on since the end of 2015 - it started with the Sky Sports and Cinema HD channels:
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...e/td-p/2973856

What is actually now happening is that all SA V+ HD boxes will be disconnected completely - all channels will be removed, not just HD ones.

Any date on when all the SA V+ HD Boxes will be disconnected?

BenMcr 24-05-2017 16:50

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Yes - end of this month. At some point after that, Virgin Media will move all HD channels over to MPEG4.

mhatter67 24-05-2017 17:04

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35900250)
Yes - end of this month. At some point after that, Virgin Media will move all HD channels over to MPEG4.

So Ben does that mean we can record more HD programs to our hard drives as mp4 is much smaller file sizes?

BenMcr 24-05-2017 17:23

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I believe that will be the case yes. No idea yet what exactly the difference will be but I'm sure that'll become clear once the change happens.

OLD BOY 24-05-2017 18:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35900237)
I got an free upgrade from Samsung V+.

I got TiVo in today and so far I do not like that I need to record to set an reminder.



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Sar Wars will be rebrand back to Sky Cinema Greats on Tuesday at 7.15am on Virgin Media.


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Can you give me an link to that story about HD Channels being removed from Scientific Atlanta V+ boxes?

That news to us.

This issue has come up before. Sorry, remind me, why exactly is the remind and record feature so problematical for you? Surely, if you miss the reminder, the box will record that programme for you. If you don't want the programme, just delete it.

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35900255)
I believe that will be the case yes. No idea yet what exactly the difference will be but I'm sure that'll become clear once the change happens.

How will we know when that change happens, Ben? Will there be an announcement?

Will programmes in HD already recorded suddenly use less space on the hard drive of my V6s or will this only be the case for the new recordings using MPEG 4?

DaMac 24-05-2017 18:25

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It will be the case only for newly recorded programmes as all the TiVo does is archive the transport stream, no actual encoding is done.

Mad Max 24-05-2017 19:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35900245)
It's been going on since the end of 2015 - it started with the Sky Sports and Cinema HD channels:
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...e/td-p/2973856

What is actually now happening is that all SA V+ HD boxes will be disconnected completely - all channels will be removed, not just HD ones.


So if you have one, or maybe two, what will they be replaced with?

spiderplant 24-05-2017 20:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35900276)
So if you have one, or maybe two, what will they be replaced with?

A TiVo (or two)

RichardCoulter 24-05-2017 23:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35900255)
I believe that will be the case yes. No idea yet what exactly the difference will be but I'm sure that'll become clear once the change happens.

Excellent news, in effect we should have a virtual increase on the 1tb limit as we will be able to fit more recordings onto it.

Maybe this is why they never bothered with a 2tb TiVo after all.

jj20x 25-05-2017 00:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35900320)
Excellent news, in effect we should have a virtual increase on the 1tb limit as we will be able to fit more recordings onto it.

When they actually start using MPEG4 on the linear channels. The last scan data I received showed that it was used on a round number of video streams, that round number being zero. At present, MPEG4 only seems to be used for on-demand content. Let's see how things actually change when the SA V+ boxes are finally removed from service.

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Maybe this is why they never bothered with a 2tb TiVo after all.
Hmmm... I don't know about that. In general, given more space, people just record more to fill it and watch at their leisure. :D

denphone 25-05-2017 05:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35900321)
When they actually start using MPEG4 on the linear channels. The last scan data I received showed that it was used on a round number of video streams, that round number being zero. At present, MPEG4 only seems to be used for on-demand content. Let's see how things actually change when the SA V+ boxes are finally removed from service.



Hmmm... I don't know about that. In general, given more space, people just record more to fill it and watch at their leisure. :D

Like our household.:)

The Yank 25-05-2017 09:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35900250)
Yes - end of this month. At some point after that, Virgin Media will move all HD channels over to MPEG4.

so the Samsung V+ box is MPEG4 and hence future proof (for now).

BenMcr 25-05-2017 09:49

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Yes both the Samsung V+ HD and the Cisco V HD boxes are both MPEG4 compatible.

vincerooney 25-05-2017 11:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mhatter67 (Post 35900108)
I take it in the foreseeable future VM are not getting any new channels?

i think so...

morning all. Hope you're still all handsome and lovely

OLD BOY 25-05-2017 15:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mhatter67 (Post 35900108)
I take it in the foreseeable future VM are not getting any new channels?

There are no decent new channels on the Horizon unless VM has managed to get a new deal with Sky, as has been rumoured.

If we get anything of note, I think it will be on demand, which is almost certainly where any new UHD content will turn up.

RichardCoulter 26-05-2017 02:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35900333)
Yes both the Samsung V+ HD and the Cisco V HD boxes are both MPEG4 compatible.

How much more recording could we do on a 1tb box if/when VM change to Mpeg 4?

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35900343)
i think so...

morning all. Hope you're still all handsome and lovely

Talking Pictures might be coming.

jj20x 26-05-2017 03:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35900429)
How much more recording could we do on a 1tb box if/when VM change to Mpeg 4?

Nobody can put an exact figure on that. Even now, with MPEG2, video streams run at different bitrates. Universal HD generally has a higher bitrate than, say, Fox HD. With a 100% full TiVo you could potentially delete a 1 hour recording made from Universal HD and create enough space to record 2, 1 hour, recordings from Fox HD. Sky Sports HD channels have even greater bitrates than Universal HD. There is no accurate answer, it depends on what you record and the amount of data in the individual video stream being recorded.

The only accurate answer is that MPEG4 would take up less space than MPEG2. Exactly how much less? How long is a piece of string?

[In certain circumstances, MPEG4 can be around twice as efficient as MPEG2. That doesn't really mean that MPEG4 would double the capacity of the box. Other factors are involved.]

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35900429)
Talking Pictures might be coming.

Or maybe it is just visiting, following the trend set by Amazon Video and Viceland. I tend to think of it along the lines of students getting the feel of a new school on an open day. ;)

OLD BOY 26-05-2017 09:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35900321)
When they actually start using MPEG4 on the linear channels. The last scan data I received showed that it was used on a round number of video streams, that round number being zero. At present, MPEG4 only seems to be used for on-demand content. Let's see how things actually change when the SA V+ boxes are finally removed from service.



Hmmm... I don't know about that. In general, given more space, people just record more to fill it and watch at their leisure. :D

That's right, but more recording capacity is badly needed in my house. I found my V6 99% full two days ago - just got to it in time to prevent arbitrary deletions!

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35900433)
Nobody can put an exact figure on that. Even now, with MPEG2, video streams run at different bitrates. Universal HD generally has a higher bitrate than, say, Fox HD. With a 100% full TiVo you could potentially delete a 1 hour recording made from Universal HD and create enough space to record 2, 1 hour, recordings from Fox HD. Sky Sports HD channels have even greater bitrates than Universal HD. There is no accurate answer, it depends on what you record and the amount of data in the individual video stream being recorded.

The only accurate answer is that MPEG4 would take up less space than MPEG2. Exactly how much less? How long is a piece of string?

[In certain circumstances, MPEG4 can be around twice as efficient as MPEG2. That doesn't really mean that MPEG4 would double the capacity of the box. Other factors are involved.

That's interesting - thank you for that. So maybe I'll get 50% more space on my V6 all in all once all my existing recordings have been watched. That will certainly be handy.

denphone 26-05-2017 10:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35900456)
That's right, but more recording capacity is badly needed in my house. I found my V6 99% full two days ago - just got to it in time to prevent arbitrary deletions

99% full.:shocked:

The Yank 26-05-2017 10:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35900333)
Yes both the Samsung V+ HD and the Cisco V HD boxes are both MPEG4 compatible.

was unaware about the V HD box - can't see Cisco written on mine but would imagine I would have been notified if mine was at risk.

mhatter67 26-05-2017 11:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35900333)
Yes both the Samsung V+ HD and the Cisco V HD boxes are both MPEG4 compatible.

I suppose Ben we are along way off for the SD channels being compressed to MPEG4 because there are a load of legacy SD only boxes out there I suppose?

OLD BOY 26-05-2017 13:02

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Although our new local channel, Made In Reading, commenced broadcasting earlier this month, there is no sign of this on my EPG yet.

I presume VM will be adding this channel before too long.

RichardCoulter 26-05-2017 16:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35900433)
Nobody can put an exact figure on that. Even now, with MPEG2, video streams run at different bitrates. Universal HD generally has a higher bitrate than, say, Fox HD. With a 100% full TiVo you could potentially delete a 1 hour recording made from Universal HD and create enough space to record 2, 1 hour, recordings from Fox HD. Sky Sports HD channels have even greater bitrates than Universal HD. There is no accurate answer, it depends on what you record and the amount of data in the individual video stream being recorded.

The only accurate answer is that MPEG4 would take up less space than MPEG2. Exactly how much less? How long is a piece of string?

[In certain circumstances, MPEG4 can be around twice as efficient as MPEG2. That doesn't really mean that MPEG4 would double the capacity of the box. Other factors are involved.]

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Or maybe it is just visiting, following the trend set by Amazon Video and Viceland. I tend to think of it along the lines of students getting the feel of a new school on an open day. ;)

Lol :D

Thanks for such a comprehensive reply.

As I don't have Sky Sports and very rarely record from Universal, I'm hoping that my recording habits will mean my box effectively being able to record 50% more.

Do you know what DVB-C2 is and if VM would ever be able to easily convert to this as, apparently, this would improve things even more?

Lozenge 26-05-2017 16:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mhatter67 (Post 35900473)
I suppose Ben we are along way off for the SD channels being compressed to MPEG4 because there are a load of legacy SD only boxes out there I suppose?

Lots of platforms still use MPEG2 for SD (even satellite at 28 degrees east which is used by Sky; I assume as you said at least partly due to SD legacy boxes). They only use MPEG4 for HD and its good to see VM are about to follow suit.

A lot of SD channels are already highly compressed with low resolutions and bitrates (which are obvious to see from how awful some look:mad:). I'm not sure that there would be a significant reason for these to change anytime soon. You could say that if they use less space as a whole then each channel could have more space and look better, but we all know that's never going to happen.:D

jj20x 26-05-2017 19:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35900505)
As I don't have Sky Sports and very rarely record from Universal, I'm hoping that my recording habits will mean my box effectively being able to record 50% more.

They were just given as an example to demonstrate that not all HD channels operate at the same bitrate.

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Do you know what DVB-C2 is and if VM would ever be able to easily convert to this as, apparently, this would improve things even more?
DVB-C2 would be a significant improvement over DVB-C if capacity becomes an issue. Put simply, it increases the overall bitrate of a transport stream. So more broadcast channels could be added, within the 8 MHz bandwidth used by each transport stream, without a drop in quality. Equivalent quality basically means that the existing video stream bitrates would be maintained, so no change in the space they occupy on the Tivo.

As with any infrastructure change it would have a cost. So the question is does VM need the extra capacity? At the moment, possibly not.

RichardCoulter 26-05-2017 20:34

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Many thanks for explaining.

The 'Made In' local TV channels are to start simulcasting truTV.

The 'Thats TV' local channels already simulcast 'Talking Pictures'.

Whilst this can be useful for Freeview viewers who cannot receive Talking Pictures, I don't see how simulcasting truTV benefits viewers on any platform:

http://www.a516digital.com/2017/05/l...-teams-up.html

jj20x 26-05-2017 22:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35900555)
The 'Made In' local TV channels are to start simulcasting truTV.

Perhaps Sony could merge trutv and the local channels and then rebrand as Made In Japan...

Seriously though, the local tv channels are now beyond a joke.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35900480)
Although our new local channel, Made In Reading, commenced broadcasting earlier this month, there is no sign of this on my EPG yet.

I presume VM will be adding this channel before too long.

They didn't take very long adding Made in Teesside, so it could be "coming soon". I would have thought that VM would have a problem with both Made in Reading and Made in Basingstoke within the coverage area of Reading headend. With Made TV apparently re-branding and merging the areas into Made in Thames Valley, perhaps it won't be such a problem... "not so local" tv. In the meantime, you can catch most of the content on TruTV. :rolleyes:

I'm told that Reading headend takes ITV Meridian South rather than the correct region of ITV Meridian Thames Valley, so I wouldn't like to guess if that oddity will be repeated for local tv.

DreamRJ 26-05-2017 23:47

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Carl on another forum posted that Talking Pictures launches on Virgin Media on channel 445 on june 1st!

https://www.facebook.com/TalkingPict...type=3&theater

1andrew1 26-05-2017 23:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DreamRJ (Post 35900582)
Carl on another forum posted that Talking Pictures launches on Virgin Media on channel 445 on june 1st!

https://www.facebook.com/TalkingPict...type=3&theater

That's good for VM customers and well done to Talking Pictures for making its business model work.

Mad Max 27-05-2017 00:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35900584)
That's good for VM customers and well done to Talking Pictures for making its business model work.

Is it? Only those who like mostly old black and white movies!

OLD BOY 27-05-2017 00:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35900584)
That's good for VM customers and well done to Talking Pictures for making its business model work.

Not if that's the quality of new channels that Virgin intend to make available.

While some may welcome this predominently black and white channel, and they are welcome to it, I still live in hope that some further quality content will come our way soon. And when I say 'soon', I'm not referring to the celebrated VM definition.

I want to see John Malone's stated vision of bringing maximum content to VM without the need to actually own the rights come to fruition. Preferably, in my lifetime.

RichardCoulter 27-05-2017 00:24

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They claim that they will be FTA on VM too!?

Wonder which pack it will go into, as even some channels on Freeview are encrypted in the M/Player pack.

jj20x 27-05-2017 03:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DreamRJ (Post 35900582)
Carl on another forum posted that Talking Pictures launches on Virgin Media on channel 445 on june 1st!

https://www.facebook.com/TalkingPict...type=3&theater

The first of the month seems like a good date for a channel launch. It was first detected off the EPG on May 10th, so hasn't been hanging around anywhere near as long as the ones that got away.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35900588)
They claim that they will be FTA on VM too!?

Wonder which pack it will go into, as even some channels on Freeview are encrypted in the M/Player pack.

It is, indeed, encrypted but most channels are on VM. Yes, it will be interesting to see which pack it launches in.

denphone 27-05-2017 05:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35900586)
Is it? Only those who like mostly old black and white movies!

B&W movies have been some of the best films produced in the world of the silver screen even to this day.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35900584)
That's good for VM customers and well done to Talking Pictures for making its business model work.

Mr K will be taking his grumpy mask off for once when he hears this news as the old git is not that easily please usually.;)

tpick 27-05-2017 09:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DreamRJ (Post 35900582)
Carl on another forum posted that Talking Pictures launches on Virgin Media on channel 445 on june 1st!

https://www.facebook.com/TalkingPict...type=3&theater

Talking Pictures TV have now confirmed that they will be coming to Virgin Media Channel 445 on Thursday 1st June

https://twitter.com/TalkingPicsTV

RichardCoulter 27-05-2017 13:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35900584)
That's good for VM customers and well done to Talking Pictures for making its business model work.

Indeed. They are only two years old and as other channels close or reduce their presence on platforms to cut costs, they are now on all the major platforms- including being on Freeview twice!

theone2k10 27-05-2017 15:32

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Talking pictures will be in the M pack hmm i wonder who said it was coming to vm 2017 summer?
Then again what do i know eh?


BIB btw is aimed at those plonkers who inboxed me abuse not anyone else :)

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Dominoes pizza app coming soon to v6 boxes. order pizza directly from your tivo box.

OLD BOY 27-05-2017 16:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35900638)
Dominoes pizza app coming soon to v6 boxes. order pizza directly from your tivo box.

Let's hope that this is the first of a much more extensive range of apps. The V6 appears to have so much potential - it would be a pity if this wasn't used to the full.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35900586)
Is it? Only those who like mostly old black and white movies!

Unless, of course, it is in UHD! :p:

Chad 27-05-2017 16:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35900638)
Dominoes pizza app coming soon to v6 boxes. order pizza directly from your tivo box.

We order Dominoes a couple of times a month. Nice little addition. Personally prefer ordering via my PC ahead of the app but I'm sure others will see this as a positive.

ozsat 27-05-2017 17:47

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A good addition to VM - one of my favourites. Listings will be in Radio Times too from next week.
Quote:

Originally Posted by DreamRJ (Post 35900582)
Carl on another forum posted that Talking Pictures launches on Virgin Media on channel 445 on june 1st!

https://www.facebook.com/TalkingPict...type=3&theater


Ddonald2016 27-05-2017 18:59

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Where is the forgotten virgin media store


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