Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Cheers Carbon60

Been looking for a picture of the back for weeks

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Buy them a new HD tv for Xmas then you scrooge ;) :D:angel: - Scart is old news mate, can't see there being much demand on new tech for it anymore. - Plus I wouldn't want my mum paying for a TV package or premium box that she couldn't get the most out of.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

The unlabelled ports are indeed disabled.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

SCART sockets aren't round so that picture is inaccurate.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

The circular port is for a XRBG mini cable that has a normal scart lead on it.


http://thumbs2.picclick.com/d/l400/p...c-Fs-Sanyo.jpg

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

It doesn't say that it's a "scart socket" it says "scart". This is how Now TV's white box works - a small socket which can receive have an adapter cable plugged into it and then the other end of the cable goes into a scart socket in the TV.
In the case of the V6 though, it appears this functionality has been disabled anyway!

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Fair enough.
You'd wonder why a disabled connection is added to a new device.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Cost. I assume it's because in some markets it will be enabled and it's cheaper to manufacture one common design across several markets than have multiple versions.
Probably a bit frustrating if you want to use it with a SCART TV though.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Using a 4K enabled V6 box through a SCART is madness anyway lol

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Unless of course that's all your telly is capable of...

...never mind what the eye can actually see

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

As far as I know all TVs in last 10 years or so have come with HDMI.

It's not much different to when the existing TiVo dropped the aerial connection and only had SCART and HDMI.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Don't forget that many people will want a V6 for other reasons than 4k; it's faster, has 6 tuners and tablet streaming etc. 4k TVs are still a minority across TV ownership.


Scart won't pass HD. It is still useful for old equipment but is being killed off by the industry.


I agree on the 4k bit; have posted similar articles myself. But HDR is worth it and only available on 4k TVs.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Why? There are probably other advantages to the box, such as speed of access, storage capacity etc.

4K makes little or no difference over 1080p unless you are watching on a large screen (possible over 100 inches) as most people cannot actually see the difference. Oh, they may say they see the difference, but I suspect that is as much to do with justifying the cost of the equipment to themselves as it is to do with any visible difference.

TV manufacturers developed 4k purely because it's easier to sell a high pixel count than it is to sell, say, more realistic colours. Purely because people see 4k vs 2k, and think higher is better. It's not so easy to put figures on colour reproduction. The only way I can think of is to use the colour temperature. This would cause most of the public to say "Whoa, colour doesn't have a temperature as it's to do with light, not heat", and isn't a good indicator of the difference between screens anyway.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

But why pay for a premium box and/or a premium TV package to only be able to watch SD channels? Just because the new box is faster and you can record a million hours of blurry SD programmes.

To get the best value out of the V6 you need a 4K tv connected by HDMI cable, not some chonky tv connected by SCART. I understand not everyone will have a 4K tv yet, but as a minimum you need a HD tv which are out there in abundance.

The point I'm trying to make is about getting the most out of the v6, not about what people can/cannot afford.

You wouldn't buy a Blu-ray player just to play normal DVDs.. The same applies to the V6.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Even with an HDMI the only 4k content you'll be watching for the time being is via netflix and amazon anyway, neither of which require a V6. I do get your point about scart though, it's like insisting on still using VHS.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

SCART and HD do not go together my friend.

---------- Post added at 09:48 ---------- Previous post was at 09:46 ----------

Yep, that's my point, Kabaal. I probably didn't word it very well.

I didn't mean to come across so brutal, sorry if I offended anyone. I just want people to get the most out of their box rather than using old tech but paying a premium

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I wasn't talking about SD channels (that was separate reply). The vast majority of people have HD TVs and an upgrade to the V6, for the reasons I mentioned, make perfect sense to those who require those features. You don't need a 4k TV to enjoy the benefits of the V6. For those with 4k TVs, being a 4k box is an added bonus, that is not relevant to the vast majority of viewers. VM were right to make it a 4k box, because eventually all new TVs will be 4k.


But again, the main advantage of a 4k set is HDR, and not all 4k TVs support HDR. Does the V6 support HDR?

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Sorry mate, you've gone off on a tangent...my original post was regarding using a SCART cable for the V6. By using the SCART port, which is disabled anyway, you'd only be able to watch SD content. That's what I was getting at.

I agree with everything you say above though. If the V6 does support HDR I believe that is one up on the Sky Q which doesn't...I could be wrong though.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

The fact that I combined two posts together possibly didn't help things.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Does anyone know if you have to pay extra for the V6 box and / or renew your contract.

Also, will we all eventualy get new ones

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Hopefuuly we'll get answers to this on 30/11.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

... or even on the 28th as that is when the prices/package changes come into effect.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Sky Q doesn't broadcast currently with HDR because the broadcast standard has literally only just been agreed. That doesn't mean HDR won't be introduced on Sky Q.
http://advanced-television.com/2016/...ne-uhdtv-spec/

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I wasn't sure, cheers for the info :)

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

...and watch SD content on them! For most people, SD is fine.

It would be reasonable to expect HD/UHD content to be downscaled on a SCART port. You'd still be getting the benefit of the higher bit-rate even if you weren't getting the resolution.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

And many people think that is actually HD because they know they have a HD TV.


That is not a criticism; most people don't have the interest in this kind of thing that posters on forums such as this one do.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

You've missed the point. I've gone well off topic, so I'll shut up about SCART cables now lol

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Surely, that's an assumption. We may well get additional UHD content via on demand and Virgin Movies.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Lets hope so, OB. Virgin may well surprise us all. I'll keep my fingers crossed :D

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

No need to do that. I still have a few bits of kit that use scart, and are occasionally used. Lets not forget dear old Svideo though, by which I have one seldom used device connected :)

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

In another thread, Ben has kindly shown me how to exclude certain programmes in Wishlists.

Oddly, when I first tried, the cursor moved all over the place but where I wanted it to go to.

I tried new batteries, but it made no difference.

I rebooted the box and that cleared the problem, but had to do a 'connect to VM" as it didn't automatically connect as it used to with my old box.

My heart sank this morning with a couple of brief reappearances of the purple spinning circle, so hopefully this has resolved this too.

I wonder if the V6 will still benefit from the odd reboot; perhaps this clears the cache or something??

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

The 1990's called, they want their technology back...hahahaha :D

Joking aside, what do you use them for? I've ditched all of my scart devices including dvd players and only use HDMI now. DVDs/Blu-Rays all played through PS4, Tivo connected via HDMI, surround sound via optical.

Kids have consoles and VHD boxes all connected with HDMI too.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Seems Sky Q's voice feature will come next year along with the ability to record 6 whilst watching a 7th if this link is correct , plus other features.

http://www.techradar.com/news/sky-q-...ntil-next-year

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Good find, MM

The Sky Q box is turning to be quite a little beast. I've seen it in action a few times and all in all it's pretty good. Flicking between menus is seamless and even loading on demand content is pretty quick, even the 4k stuff.

Will be a tough box for VM to compete with, but I hope they pull something out of the bag :)

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

The V6 already operates as slickly as you describe and can already record 6 while watching a 7th.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Hahaha sweet, Sky have got some catching up to do then :):D

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Whilst it's always nice to have extra tuners I'm hard pressed to find enough to record on the four I currently have available.:D

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I can record all the channels I need but my problem is finding the time to view them.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Plus it's always nice to have more lol. I rarely see the 3 red lights on my Tivo now, but always handy to have just in case :-)

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Watch it you might upset thy most revered.;):D

---------- Post added at 17:38 ---------- Previous post was at 17:33 ----------

Well each to their own but we find one of the worse problems is programmes starting late and finishing late thus its inevitable that there will be clashes and thus 3 tuners is not enough in our household.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Ooops, sorry, Den...I'll hold my tongue :angel::D

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Agreed we are the same in our house.:D

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

What can I say, I hate throwing kit away :D

All Items are connected to AV amps -- bedroom or lounge.


I have the first Panasonic Hard drive/DVD recorder, the HS2, which has scart, for which I use a scart to three phono leads connector.

I also have two later models, the E95 & EH50 which connects via Component. The E95 I occasionally use as it has a good music documentary recorded on it. and also I can archive Tivo recordings on it. The EH50 can record from an ancient Sony Freeview box.

Finally I have a couple of 5 disc DVD players. The Panasonic connects via Component I think and a Yamaha that has an Svideo connection.

I rip my DVDs now, so hardly used but occasionally I find a 6 DVD boxset that won't rip and they are useful then.

My lounge 2013 Yamaha RX-A3030 AV amp, I think was the last Yamaha amp to include Svideo inputs.


Do I really need them? Probably not. But they don't do any harm, and prove useful on the odd occasion :D

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

So it has 7 tuners? I always assumed that the name was derived from Virgin and the number of tuners.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

The 7th is a recording and doesn't need a tuner.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Does anyone know for sure why the V6 needs to be connected to a router, does it actually have to be?

I know the V6 doesn't have a internal modem, but what exactly does the V6 need to pull off the internet that it's not getting from being connected to the cable network? I'm assuming the EPG data, metadata etc is all being piped from the cable network as is the VOD.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

V6 uses your home network for the same things as TiVo used it's own network connection - apps such as BBC iPlayer, Netflix and YouTube. Of course, the slow modem on TiVo would be no use for 4K streams from Netflix and YouTube.
In addition, V6 needs a faster upload to provide download of recordings to TV Anywhere app, something not possible with TiVo's very poor upload on its 10Mb internet connection.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

You realise there are 1000's of kids wondering what the hell Svid,VHS and scart is ,they just think the old farts are babbling again :D

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

They could be right! ;)

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

If you only have an old tv that only has a scart connection you will not get a V6, they will install an old Tivo or cancel the install all together. In theory this should be one of the questions they ask when you ask for a V6.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Thanks for that. Forgot all about recordings. I guess we'll hear a lot more about recordings soon when VM launch their cloud service(s).

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Sorry, thought you meant live TV.

Indeed, as I had to explain to the installer of my V6!

He was under the impression that it had to be connected to my modem, so it's useful for potential V6 customers to be aware of this

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I've seen posts online saying that anyone taking a V6 will need 100mb tier broadband - is that for the upload speed, rather than the download then?

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Maybe that's to ensure that the box is not given to people on the cheaper up to 50Mbps - for commercial reasons.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Or maybe there's another speed boost on the way and 100mb will the lowest broafband tier...?

If 100 is minimum speed required then, as it stands, Player and Mix budle customers wouldn't be able to get a V6 - though Horizon has said packages are being refreshed (again already!) on the 28th...

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I, personally, haven't seen that limitation written down anywhere but the 50Mb tier does only have 3Mb upload which may restrict the ability to download recordings to mobile devices for offline viewing.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

For offline viewing you would download to your phone via your own wifi network, upload speed is irrelivant

---------- Post added at 23:34 ---------- Previous post was at 23:32 ----------

4k takes over 25meg, two v6s in the same house coudn't stream 4k at the same time

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Most people's eyes aren't capable of seeing the difference at normal viewing distances, let alone 4k...unless you sit about 2 feet from the screen :D

---------- Post added at 01:17 ---------- Previous post was at 01:13 ----------

What was I saying about overloading an already saturated network?

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

What price/package changes are you referring to?

They only very recently renamed all their TV packs, moved channels around and introduced new prices.

Surely not another load of changes so soon?

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

...but the recording is sitting on your V6 hard disk so to download it to your mobile device would first require it to be uploaded from there before it could be downloaded to the mobile device.
Upload is important and the reason this function was never available on TiVo which could only upload at 1Mb.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Good point:

Looks like it's finally dawning on them that they have lost customers due to their recent antics.

Bet they are desperately trying to reduce churn to appease the shareholders ie allowing those on lower BB tiers to have a V6 and for only £14.99, trying to get back former customers (who by now have probably made other arrangements).

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Upload and download speeds within your home network are normally symmetrical. It's only once you get out on to the internet does upload become a different thing to download.

Uploads were an issue on the current TiVo because it wasn't required to be connected to your home network, so if Virgin Media had done anything with recordings, they would have had to go over the built in modem.

As mentioned on here, the V6 connects to your Hub, so it won't use the broadband upload speeds if it doesn't need to, but what's available in your home network.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Thank you for the explanation. I now retract my previous statement.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

[QUOTE=OhReally;35871196]Most people's eyes aren't capable of seeing the difference at normal viewing distances, let alone 4k...unless you sit about 2 feet from the screen :DQUOTE]

The difference between SD and HD is easily distinguishable, especially if you watch most of your content in HD these days. SD channels are so blurry.

How we got by before HD, I'll never know lol :D

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

The difference between SD and HD is quite remarkable on a 49" screen. I will let you know whether there is a similar difference when I start getting 4k pictures on my TV shortly. I am expecting these pictures to be quite stunning.

On a small screen, these differences are nowhere near as noticeable.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

[QUOTE=Ultimate.Conj;35871287]
TV screens weren't generally so large in 'SD days' and many people had CRT sets, which are kinder to SD pictures. My Panny 32" CRT looked fine with SD :D

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

[QUOTE=passingbat;35871291]That's true...I forgot about smaller screen and bigger sets lol

These days 55inches seems to be the norm....I bought my mum a 42inch about 10yrs ago, that seemed massive.

But, today on a decent HD tele, the difference between SD and HD is pretty big. The picture of 4K Stranger Things on Netflix on my 55inch looks amazing. And the HDR Grand Tour on Amazon looks stunning.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

PC gamers say different and were gaming at HD resolutions on small screens long before the HD buzz words were flying about. It's about viewing distance in relation to screen size and not just screen size alone. The difference between SD and HD is just as evident at 20" as it is at 49" if both are viewed from the correct distance.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

The lack of scart I can understand but it kills off my slingbox which is annoying.
I use it pretty regularly and it has composite leads into a scart connector.
Looks like there are no composite connectors to go that way either.

Will have to have a ponder about this and what to do as even buying a new slingbox does not look like it will be the fix as does not have HDMI.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

You can get HDMI > SCART

https://www.amazon.co.uk/HDMI-SCART-.../dp/B00NAT0W2Y

or HDMI > RCA

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Musou%C2%AE...qid=1479913661

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

There is a HD Slingbox

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-...23990-pdt.html

But does it have HDMI?? not sure lol

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

It doesn't, you'd need the Slingbox 500 for that, however the 500 didn't support HDCP so it wouldn't work on some channels. I don't think it was ever released in the UK.

I've had to do:

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Getting a few more small problems with the V6.

The problem of the remote reacting to phantom presses briefly reappeared (could this be Bluetooth playing up)? I've never used this.

Also, twice in a row, it's stopped recording a lunchtime show after two minutes or so, it won't let me delete last night's 'Ordinary Lies' and there seems to be a brief loss of signal on some recordings from anything from a couple of seconds to 10 seconds.

The audio is lost and the picture tears or freezes on one frame.

Anyone else with a V6 having any similar problems?

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Should have stuck with your Tivo, mate :D

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Several broadcasters (eg Sky's entertainment channels) have also reduced their SD resolution over the years, which makes the difference even bigger

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Nothing wrong with our TiVo apart from us needing more tuners and a bigger memory.:)

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

If you still have your old Tivo remote, you could try that, as It's IR only and may help to see if it is the Bluetooth aspect.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Hey, Richard, I'd never let you come within 50 yards of my Tivo!! :p:

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Wow Richard you must be really unlucky, with all the equipment problems you have had.;)

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Hehe it is better overall!

Good idea, thanks I'll try that.

:D:D:D

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

You can't surely, you could reduce the bit rate...an SD picture is a fixed size isn't it?

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

They do both I'm afraid, many channels now broadcast 544x576 pixels, which is 3/4 of the proper SD resolution (720x576).

When Sky bought Virgin Media Television, the first thing they did was reduce the resolution of Living etc.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

As I understand it Ofcom and the BBC have looked into the technical standards, what people can actually see etc etc. This isn't noticiable by many and newer TVs have settings which, I believe, work with this standard. It looks like channel's 1-5 will follow with the main channels and the sister channels.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

When was that? 10 years ago most people were rocking 28" TV's and DVD players, nowadays you can get cheap 65" TVs from the likes of hisense for under a grand. What people can notice is much different today than it was yesterday.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I don't disagree although the experts think otherwise

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Personally I'm happy if they make SD worse. It will force all channels with any pretence of quality to move to HD or better.

On the rare occasion, now, I have to watch SD (normally when my wife is watching cookery), I just accept it's **** and ignore it.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

That's terrible mate, you shouldn't put up with that :angel:

No place for SD in my house haha
If someone has put on a SD movie channel, I can tell as soon as I walk into the room and switch it to the HD channel lol

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Having replaced two TVs in the last two years I can say that some sets do a much better job than others of up-scaling the picture. On one of my sets the SD picture quality is almost as good as the HD picture quality on the other. It's still possible to tell the difference especially when viewing text on screen.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

On my 37 inch Panasonic family members notice little difference between the excellent SD and HD picture quality. I put this down to very good upscaling of the Tivo and a high quality TV ( though it is several years old).
The problem with BBC 1 HD is that you do not get the local news.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Hd bbc1 expensive infrastructure needdd for little airtime

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

They manage fine with BBC1 Scotland HD

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I think I may move my 1Tb TiVo to the bedroom along with the Slingbox and try and hope that works for a while longer yet and get the V6 as the main box downstairs.

Otherwise it's getting costly with buying a new Slingbox and converters from what I can tell :(

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

http://www.a516digital.com/2016/11/o...ical-code.html

Ofcom are to scrap the requirement for minimum standards in favour of letting the market decide what is best.

They say that they don't expect TV companies to reduce the picture quality.

The BBC nations have been done, the BBC intend to convert the 15 regions to HD over one to two years from 2017.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/abouttheb...3-7963e8ec1225

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Yes, here's to finally getting Look North in HD by 2017. Peter Levy in High Definition, and Keeley Donovan!

(Now back to the topic at hand ;) )

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Had a good chat with a VM technician today who came to swap out my old TiVo which had failed.

He advised me he'd only fitted one V6, and that all the initial 10,000 that went out have been installed.

He has been advised that the next batch won't be available until February in the East Midlands, so I wouldn't get too excited about the launch next week - seems there aren't warehouses full of V6s ready to install.

He also noted that the idea is that the majority of these will be self-installs, and customers will be able to arrange delivery at a time convenient to them - could possibly involve a system where Yodel and VM link up and customers can book a delivery via Yodel.

Nice bloke, to be fair, and seemed to know what he was talking about

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Well if that is the case I reckon a lot of long standing customers like myself will be pretty fed up as we have had to endure the old technology really slow TiVo box for the last couple of years ,if I was out of contract I would be taking up one of sky deals on the sky q box .If wasn't for the fact sky fibre broadband isn't available in my area until March next year I would buy myself out , being a virgin customer since they went digital and on the VIP contract I am pretty disgusted if I don't get a new box before Xmas .

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Well, be careful. Take a look at the problems some Sky Q users are having.

This technology is fairly cutting edge and things aren't running smoothly!

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I know sky q is not running smoothly but neither is v6 , but I feel Virgin should still give long standing and sufffering TiVo customers a v6 box as the current TiVo box is barely fit for purpose and I am paying them over £100 a month for a good broadband service but a really outdated slow tv service which hasn't been changed for years and has constant price increases . Don't get me wrong I have been a fan of virgin media but if they continue to show distain for loyal customers in favour of new customers I feel I will have to look at my options especially as sky are always doing offers to get virgin customers to join them ,and many have already left to join sky . It would pain me to leave but virgin have shown at this moment in time they are not showing any loyalty so why should I . They used to be really good to loyal customers ,I was one who got given the TiVo box free when it first came out and they way launched it was really great but the box is now very long in the tooth, I hope they have got there act together now .

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Where are you getting your assertion that V6 is not running smoothly from?

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Speculated hearsay one imagines...