Cable Forum

Cable Forum (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/index.php)
-   Virgin Media TV Service (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/forumdisplay.php?f=11)
-   -   General : Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2 (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/showthread.php?t=33702866)

cupcakes aka dd 18-07-2016 17:26

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35850157)
Hold onto your hats Amazon instant video may be on it's way to vm tivos this year.
I say may as for now it is treated as a rumour a new source so we shall see.

Lets hope it comes with 5.1 sound as well. PS3 does.

Chad 18-07-2016 20:12

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35850175)
I know this doesn't apply to yourself theone, but I don't get why people are making such a big deal over Amazon being added to VM. It's available on numerous devices, many of which will already be in peoples' homes, and if that isn't the case, can be watched on a £35 Fire Stick.

Access on these devices will be way faster than via the current Tivo.

If you don't have broadband being able to access Netflix, Hayu and potentially Amazon Instant Video without an internet connection is a massive selling point. My parents don't have the internet and get their TiVo upgrade in the next week or so. Definitely getting them set up on the old Netflix account. I

---------- Post added at 20:12 ---------- Previous post was at 19:49 ----------

News from Ireland:

"Virgin Media to drop Eir Sport and BT from cable offering. Pay TV group says price sought is too high for former package of Setanta and BT Sport channels."

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/m...ring-1.2726352

"Virgin has signed a new multi-year deal with Sky to carry a range of its sports and entertainment channels, including its new station, Sky Sports Mix. This channel will be offered as part of Virgin Media’s basic TV pack, replacing Setanta Sports (now Eir Sport), which it had carried since its launch in 2004."

passingbat 18-07-2016 20:14

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35850215)
If you don't have broadband being able to access Netflix, Hayu and potentially Amazon Instant Video without an internet connection is a massive selling point. My parents don't have the internet and get their TiVo upgrade in the next week or so. Definitely getting them set up on the old Netflix account. I

Fair point, but VM customers with no internet, I would imagine, would be a small proportion and less likely to be interested in Netflix/Prime type services anyway?

Chad 18-07-2016 20:19

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
SKY Sports Mix to launch on 24th August:

http://www.balls.ie/football/explain...ustomer/340089

https://www.virginmedia.ie/finalwhistle

Reallysad 18-07-2016 20:27

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
New to this. It looks like Virgin media Ireland is getting rid of BT Sport for Sky Sports mix.

see link

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/m...ring-1.2726352

muppetman11 18-07-2016 20:30

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35850219)

Your talking balls :D

Chad 18-07-2016 20:34

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reallysad (Post 35850220)
New to this. It looks like Virgin media Ireland is getting rid of BT Sport for Sky Sports mix.

see link

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/m...ring-1.2726352

I wonder what impact that will have on the relationship between Virgin Media and BT Sports in the UK?

---------- Post added at 20:34 ---------- Previous post was at 20:33 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35850221)
Your talking balls :D

:shocked:

RichardCoulter 18-07-2016 20:38

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35850222)
I wonder what impact that will have on the relationship between Virgin Media and BT Sports in the UK?

Apparently, Irish VM customers can only subscribe to BT Sport via Eir Sport.

As Eir Sport is being removed, it is for this reason alone that BT Sport also has to be removed, therefore, I don't think it will have any impact on the operational relationship between BT and VM in the UK.

denphone 18-07-2016 20:40

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reallysad (Post 35850220)
New to this. It looks like Virgin media Ireland is getting rid of BT Sport for Sky Sports mix.

see link

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/m...ring-1.2726352

Lets hope this is not a prelude to doing the same thing to its UK customers.

RichardCoulter 18-07-2016 20:46

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35850226)
Lets hope this is not a prelude to doing the same thing to its UK customers.

The three year deal comes up for renegotiation next month (15/8/16).

Chad 18-07-2016 20:49

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35850224)
Apparently, Irish VM customers can only subscribe to BT Sport via Eir Sport.

As Eir Sport is being removed, it is for this reason alone that BT Sport also has to be removed, therefore, I don't think it will have any impact on the operational relationship between BT and VM in the UK.

True I suppose. Great measuring stick for Virgin to see what would happen if they ever dropped BT Sport from the XL package. Just playing Devil's Advocate :devsmoke:

---------- Post added at 20:49 ---------- Previous post was at 20:48 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35850218)
Fair point, but VM customers with no internet, I would imagine, would be a small proportion and less likely to be interested in Netflix/Prime type services anyway?

Probably. I can hear my Dad just now...

"Netflix, what's a Netflix?"

denphone 18-07-2016 20:49

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35850229)
The three year deal comes up for renegotiation next month (IIRC 15/8/16).

Will MB be the bearer of bad tidings soon?.

RichardCoulter 18-07-2016 21:11

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35850230)
True I suppose. Great measuring stick for Virgin to see what would happen if they ever dropped BT Sport from the XL package. Just playing Devil's Advocate :devsmoke:

Could be, after all the BT Sport in the XL pack deal/strategy was implemented by VM and not LG.

Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35850232)
Will MB be the bearer of bad tidings soon?.

Possibly, but unless it's an experiment by VM as mentioned above by Chad, I doubt it will be removed.

It's Eir Sport that VM Ireland have a problem with, not BT- they are just a casualty.

However, now would be the ideal time for LG to revisit the former VM management strategy regarding BT Sport...

---------- Post added at 21:11 ---------- Previous post was at 20:57 ----------

In other news, BBC Olympics 1-8 SD and 1-8 HD are currently testing off the EPG.

theone2k10 18-07-2016 21:36

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35850232)
Will MB be the bearer of bad tidings soon?.

Nope :)

Media Boy UK 18-07-2016 22:37

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35850229)
The three year deal comes up for renegotiation next month (15/8/16).

We feel Virgin Media UK and BT resign that deal last summer when BT did launch both BT Sport Europe and BT Showcase - so we feel the BT Sport deal will be up in 2019.

But in Ireland you need to buy Eir Sport to get BT Sport so maybe Eir Sport was asking to much for just 42 games from England as Sky Sports have got the rights to Saturday 3pm kick off games this season - It was with Eir Sport last season.

OLD BOY 19-07-2016 11:53

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35850157)
Hold onto your hats Amazon instant video may be on it's way to vm tivos this year.
I say may as for now it is treated as a rumour a new source so we shall see.

I think it's inevitable, theone. Most apps providers seem to be offering both Netflix and Amazon. Just Now TV left then as the next big thing for Virgin!!

---------- Post added at 11:48 ---------- Previous post was at 11:43 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35850175)
I know this doesn't apply to yourself theone, but I don't get why people are making such a big deal over Amazon being added to VM. It's available on numerous devices, many of which will already be in peoples' homes, and if that isn't the case, can be watched on a £35 Fire Stick.

Access on these devices will be way faster than via the current Tivo.

You are right of course, but you neglect the fact that many, many people are still ignorant of how they can receive these apps, and of course there are also many people who cannot afford to buy additional equipment on top. I still say that Tivos with these apps built in will be hugely popular, provided VM resolve the speed issues.

---------- Post added at 11:53 ---------- Previous post was at 11:48 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35850182)
No chance in Hell is what you have.

I don't know, though. If they incorporated the cost in the TiVo charge, that would work as long as a deal could be made with either Netflix or Amazon.

I don't think that would be possible with Now TV for quite a few reasons, including the fact that 'Sky is Sky'!!!

Nightdeamon 19-07-2016 12:59

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
When did CN+1 and Boomerang+1 join M+?

And cartoonito too?

1701-e 19-07-2016 13:24

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35850226)
Lets hope this is not a prelude to doing the same thing to its UK customers.

Not likely.

BT Sport wasn't in a general pack like XL.
Eir will probably come crying to VM (IE) for a last minute deal. E22 p/m isn't great for what is on offer and VM are right to pull the plug.

RichardCoulter 19-07-2016 13:45

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 35850288)
Not likely.

BT Sport wasn't in a general pack like XL.
Eir will probably come crying to VM (IE) for a last minute deal. E22 p/m isn't great for what is on offer and VM are right to pull the plug.

I think so too...

Horizon 19-07-2016 16:58

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Sorry folks, but can we stick to services that may (or not) be coming to this country?

Ireland is a foreign country and what happens over there has no baring on what happens here. In the same way that we don't discuss what services UPC or Ziggo get because they are based in different countries, even though they'll all owned by Liberty. What happens elsewhere does not effect what we get here. Can we just stick to our country, please?

Who knows, the Scots might be leaving us soon too, so this could just be the English Cable Forum in the end...

passingbat 19-07-2016 18:40

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35850311)
Sorry folks, but can we stick to services that may (or not) be coming to this country?

Ireland is a foreign country and what happens over there has no baring on what happens here. In the same way that we don't discuss what services UPC or Ziggo get because they are based in different countries, even though they'll all owned by Liberty. What happens elsewhere does not effect what we get here. Can we just stick to our country, please?

Who knows, the Scots might be leaving us soon too, so this could just be the English Cable Forum in the end...

Whilst I completely agree with you, I believe there was a vote several months ago on whether to include Ireland in this thread. The 'in Campaign' won that time ;):D

RichardCoulter 19-07-2016 18:59

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35850311)
Sorry folks, but can we stick to services that may (or not) be coming to this country?

Ireland is a foreign country and what happens over there has no baring on what happens here. In the same way that we don't discuss what services UPC or Ziggo get because they are based in different countries, even though they'll all owned by Liberty. What happens elsewhere does not effect what we get here. Can we just stick to our country, please?

Who knows, the Scots might be leaving us soon too, so this could just be the English Cable Forum in the end...

AIUI, Media Boy asked if people would prefer a separate thread for VM Ireland and the answer was no, any information should be posted in this thread.

There are times when action elsewhere (company or country) can have a bearing on VM customers in the UK eg when Sky kicked Current TV out of the Sub Club, they could no longer afford to broadcast on satellite. This meant that VM customers lost the channel too as it would not have been viable to broadcast on cable only.

Chad 19-07-2016 19:02

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35850317)
Whilst I completely agree with you, I believe there was a vote several months ago on whether to include Ireland in this thread. The 'in Campaign' won that time ;):D

Very true:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...l#post35811254

Saying that though "Don't Care" won by a landslide :D

RichardCoulter 19-07-2016 20:30

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Unconfirmed reports that a playout centre has suffered a major fire, so some channels on VM may be affected.

The only one that I am aware of so far has been Talking Pictures, which I don't think that VM carry.

This was knocked out on Freeview, not sure about the satellite feed.

---------- Post added at 20:30 ---------- Previous post was at 19:16 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightdeamon (Post 35850283)
When did CN+1 and Boomerang+1 join M+?

And cartoonito too?

Hot on the heals of Vintage TV, Nollywood & Motors TV.

Since LG bought VM, there has been a steady trickle of channels moving down the packages, perhaps VM feel that this will stop customers leaving entirely.

The latest childrens channels might be in response to Now TV charging separately for kids programming??

theone2k10 19-07-2016 22:26

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35850325)
Unconfirmed reports that a playout centre has suffered a major fire, so some channels on VM may be affected.

The only one that I am aware of so far has been Talking Pictures, which I don't think that VM carry.

This was knocked out on Freeview, not sure about the satellite feed.

---------- Post added at 20:30 ---------- Previous post was at 19:16 ----------



Hot on the heals of Vintage TV, Nollywood & Motors TV.

Since LG bought VM, there has been a steady trickle of channels moving down the packages, perhaps VM feel that this will stop customers leaving entirely.

The latest childrens channels might be in response to Now TV charging separately for kids programming??

Nowtv doesn't have Disney channel anymore either.

Horizon 19-07-2016 23:35

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Ah, I missed this other referendum folks, fair enough.

---------- Post added at 23:35 ---------- Previous post was at 23:32 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35850325)

[/COLOR]

Hot on the heals of Vintage TV, Nollywood & Motors TV.

Since LG bought VM, there has been a steady trickle of channels moving down the packages, perhaps VM feel that this will stop customers leaving entirely.

The latest childrens channels might be in response to Now TV charging separately for kids programming??

Could be, but also with 4k on the horizon VM has to do some thinking as regards to channel packages and EPG slots. If, as I assume it will, that 4k becomes the new HD and HD becomes the new SD.

vincerooney 20-07-2016 15:14

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35850182)
No chance in Hell is what you have.

hahaha always good to dream.

remember then they did a survey on whether we'd like netflix as part of the subscription? Nothing happened. Except price rises....:o:

japitts 20-07-2016 15:56

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35850325)

Since LG bought VM, there has been a steady trickle of channels moving down the packages, perhaps VM feel that this will stop customers leaving entirely.

The latest childrens channels might be in response to Now TV charging separately for kids programming??

In some ways you can't blame them, but I feel they need to tread a fine line of keeping value in XL too.

RichardCoulter 20-07-2016 16:39

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35850129)
Also moving BBC 4 HD to channel 163 left Channel 164 free for maybe an NBCUnviersal channel?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35850143)
Have you got an NBCUniversal channel in mind?

Quote:

Originally Posted by undertakereddie (Post 35850146)
I hope its Universal Channel HD That Fills The Old BBC FOUR Slot.

The first episode of Mr Robot which starts this Thursday on Universal Channel is now available in HD on Virgin Media with the Universal Channel HD DOG.

Could this suggest that Universal Channel HD is finally launching on Virgin Media, in time for this new series?

telegramsam 20-07-2016 17:20

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
No content added from yesterday on the bbc I player on my box,is it the same for others? I wanted to watch The Living And The Dead.

sminkypinky 20-07-2016 17:31

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Searched for Mr Robot and the HD showing is on Syfy HD ch165.

muppetman11 20-07-2016 18:16

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sminkypinky (Post 35850433)
Searched for Mr Robot and the HD showing is on Syfy HD ch165.

It's showing the same on my Sky Q EPG , it appears to be available on both Universal Channel and Syfy.

Tomorrow's showing on Universal Channel/HD at 9pm
Showing on Syfy/HD at 11pm.

DaMac 20-07-2016 18:40

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
I loved Mr Robot the Mrs didn't, she did not get it.
The second series has already started on Amazon, it is just a shame that it was not filmed for HDR, the strange angles would have looked amazing in HDR.

Ultimate.Conj 21-07-2016 10:03

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35850440)
I loved Mr Robot the Mrs didn't, she did not get it.
The second series has already started on Amazon, it is just a shame that it was not filmed for HDR, the strange angles would have looked amazing in HDR.

What's wrong with women mate? My Mrs didn't fancy it either...strange, as it looks really good.

Universal HD would be a great addition to VM ;)

denphone 21-07-2016 10:20

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Yes it would be but alas l think some of us said that 5 years ago.

1andrew1 21-07-2016 10:20

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35850533)
Universal HD would be a great addition to VM ;)

Presumably it needs to test first, it won't just suddenly materialise though.;)

Mobes 21-07-2016 10:52

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Now we know 4k sky Cinema is coming to VM later this year (presuming they will roll out the new TIVO first?)

Presuming that 4K Sky Sports ISN'T coming?!

denphone 21-07-2016 11:01

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35850539)
Presumably it needs to test first, it won't just suddenly materialise though.;)

Well you are in the know so perhaps you can tell us Andrew?.;)

theone2k10 21-07-2016 11:02

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35850533)
What's wrong with women mate? My Mrs didn't fancy it either...strange, as it looks really good.

Universal HD would be a great addition to VM ;)

It is a superb show a bit confusing at first but stick with it.

Ultimate.Conj 21-07-2016 11:37

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35850539)
Presumably it needs to test first, it won't just suddenly materialise though.;)

I don't expect it to just appear...I meant after negotiations and testing....when/if it finally launches, it will be a great addition...but you knew what I mean haha :angel::D

---------- Post added at 11:36 ---------- Previous post was at 11:35 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35850545)
It is a superb show a bit confusing at first but stick with it.

Cheers mate, I'll try to watch it over the weekend.

---------- Post added at 11:37 ---------- Previous post was at 11:36 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35850541)
Now we know 4k sky Cinema is coming to VM later this year (presuming they will roll out the new TIVO first?)

Presuming that 4K Sky Sports ISN'T coming?!

Is there an actual 4K Cinema channel launching or is it just on-demand titles that you have to pay for that are in 4K(UHD)?

Media Boy UK 21-07-2016 12:18

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35850234)
In other news, BBC Olympics 1-8 SD and 1-8 HD are currently testing off the EPG.

Our sources has now sent us photos of them testing.

---------- Post added at 12:18 ---------- Previous post was at 12:05 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35850427)
The first episode of Mr Robot which starts this Thursday on Universal Channel is now available in HD on Virgin Media with the Universal Channel HD DOG.

Could this suggest that Universal Channel HD is finally launching on Virgin Media, in time for this new series?

As of Tuesday Universal Channel HD is not testing on Virgin Media UK.

DaMac 21-07-2016 12:57

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35850545)
It is a superb show a bit confusing at first but stick with it.

I did stick with it and really enjoyed it, now I have watched the first 2 episodes of series 2 and I'm confused again lol.

vincerooney 21-07-2016 13:12

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35850538)
Yes it would be but alas l think some of us said that 5 years ago.

haha we did den! i remember 2 odd years ago it was rumoured to be testing. ah how time flies!

Media Boy UK 21-07-2016 13:24

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Sky Cinema to launch Harry Potter Channel.

Sky Cinema is to launch an Sky Cinema Harry Potter Channel from Monday on Virgin UK Channel 304 and in HD on Virgin UK Channel 334.

Also on Virgin Ireland Channel 307 and in HD on Virgin Ireland Channel 337.

Mobes 21-07-2016 13:39

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35850551)

Is there an actual 4K Cinema channel launching or is it just on-demand titles that you have to pay for that are in 4K(UHD)?

The email didn't say. Just said Sky Cinema UHD coming later in the year.

blue666666 21-07-2016 14:21

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
have sky said anything regarding 4k sport channels?

theone2k10 21-07-2016 14:32

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35850566)
I did stick with it and really enjoyed it, now I have watched the first 2 episodes of series 2 and I'm confused again lol.

Glad i'm not the only one confused haha, apparantly like season 1 it'll all make sense in the end lol.

Media Boy UK 21-07-2016 20:40

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
July List update - July 21st update.

Keep up-to-date on the latest news on upcoming channel launches and other important events across all platforms of Virgin Media UK and Virgin Media Ireland.

NOTE: I DO NOT WORK FOR VIRGIN MEDIA UK OR VIRGIN MEDIA IRELAND SO ALL THE INFORMATION ON THIS LIST IS STILL SUBJECT TO CHANGE

Colours on my list are as followed:

Media Boy = New Info just added.
Media Boy = Virgin Media UK/Ireland News and links.
Media Boy = Local TV news, other Media news/Things.

=== Coming up on Virgin's Digital TV ===
=== Freeviews on Virgin Media UK OR Ireland ===
(Put start date here). (Put channel name here) is having an freeview to all TBC Customers on Virgin UK/Ireland Channel TBC right now until (Put end date here.)

=== Soon ===
-Virgin Media UK will launch Arabic Hafla soon on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
-Virgin Media UK will launch BBC Olympics 1 soon on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
-Virgin Media UK will launch BBC Olympics 1 HD soon on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
-Virgin Media UK will launch BBC Olympics 2 soon on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
-Virgin Media UK will launch BBC Olympics 2 HD soon on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
-Virgin Media UK will launch BBC Olympics 3 soon on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
-Virgin Media UK will launch BBC Olympics 3 HD soon on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
-Virgin Media UK will launch BBC Olympics 4 soon on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
-Virgin Media UK will launch BBC Olympics 4 HD soon on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
-Virgin Media UK will launch BBC Olympics 5 soon on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
-Virgin Media UK will launch BBC Olympics 5 HD soon on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
-Virgin Media UK will launch BBC Olympics 6 soon on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
-Virgin Media UK will launch BBC Olympics 6 HD soon on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
-Virgin Media UK will launch BBC Olympics 7 soon on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
-Virgin Media UK will launch BBC Olympics 7 HD soon on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
-Virgin Media UK will launch BBC Olympics 8 soon on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
-Virgin Media UK will launch BBC Olympics 8 HD soon on Virgin UK Channel TBC.

-Virgin Media UK will launch Fox News Channel soon on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
-Virgin Media UK will launch NDTV India soon on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
-Virgin Media UK will launch NDTV Spice soon on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
-Virgin Media Ireland will launch W soon on Virgin Ireland Channel TBC.

=== July ===
25th. Sky Cinema will rebrand Sky Cinema Star Trek as Sky Cinema Harry Potter on Virgin UK Channel 404 and Virgin Ireland Channel 307.
25th. Sky Cinema will rebrand Sky Cinema Star Trek HD as Sky Cinema Harry Potter HD on Virgin UK Channel 434 and Virgin Ireland Channel 337.
26th. Virgin Media UK to move Gold from Virgin UK Channel 126 to Virgin UK Channel 124 today.
26th. Virgin Media UK to move W from Virgin UK Channel 124 to Virgin UK Channel 125 today.
26th. Virgin Media UK to move Alibi from Virgin UK Channel 130 to Virgin UK Channel 126 today.
26th. Virgin Media UK to move Dave from Virgin UK Channel 128 to Virgin UK Channel 127 today.
26th. Virgin Media UK to move Drama from Virgin UK Channel 190 to Virgin UK Channel 128 today.
26th. Virgin Media UK to move Really from Virgin UK Channel 283 to Virgin UK Channel 129 today.
26th. Virgin Media UK to move Alibi +1 from Virgin UK Channel 131 to Virgin UK Channel 130 today.
26th. Virgin Media UK to move W +1 from Virgin UK Channel 125 to Virgin UK Channel 131 today.
26th. Virgin Media UK to move BBC Four HD from Virgin UK Channel 164 to Virgin UK Channel 163 today.
26th. Virgin Media UK to move Gold +1 from Virgin UK Channel 127 to Virgin UK Channel 190 today.
26th. Virgin Media UK to move Dave ja vu from Virgin UK Channel 129 to Virgin UK Channel 211 today.
26th. Virgin Media UK to move Sky Sports 1 HD from Virgin UK Channel 502 to Virgin UK Channel 501 today.
26th. Virgin Media UK to move Sky Sports 2 HD from Virgin UK Channel 503 to Virgin UK Channel 502 today.
26th. Virgin Media UK to move Sky Sports 3 HD from Virgin UK Channel 504 to Virgin UK Channel 503 today.
26th. Virgin Media UK to move Sky Sports 4 HD from Virgin UK Channel 505 to Virgin UK Channel 504 today.
26th. Virgin Media UK to move Sky Sports 5 HD from Virgin UK Channel 506 to Virgin UK Channel 505 today.
26th. Virgin Media UK to move Sky Sports HQ HD from Virgin UK Channel 501 to Virgin UK Channel 506 today.
26th. Virgin Media UK to move Sky Sports F1 HD from Virgin UK Channel 507 to Virgin UK Channel 508 today.
26th. Virgin Media UK to move Sky Sports 1 from Virgin UK Channel 502 to Virgin UK Channel 501 today.
26th. Virgin Media UK to move Sky Sports 2 from Virgin UK Channel 503 to Virgin UK Channel 502 today.
26th. Virgin Media UK to move Sky Sports 3 from Virgin UK Channel 504 to Virgin UK Channel 503 today.
26th. Virgin Media UK to move Sky Sports 4 from Virgin UK Channel 505 to Virgin UK Channel 504 today.
26th. Virgin Media UK to move Sky Sports 5 from Virgin UK Channel 506 to Virgin UK Channel 505 today.
26th. Virgin Media UK to move Sky Sports News HQ from Virgin UK Channel 501 to Virgin UK Channel 506 today.
26th. Virgin Media UK to move Sky Sports F1 from Virgin UK Channel 507 to Virgin UK Channel 508 today.


=== August ===
1st. Virgin Media Ireland will close Eir Sport 1 on Virgin Ireland Channels 105 and 400 today.
1st. Virgin Media Ireland will close Eir Sport 2 on Virgin Ireland Channel 401 today.
1st. Virgin Media Ireland will close BT Sport ESPN on Virgin Ireland Channel 407 today.
1st. Virgin Media Ireland will close BT Sport 1 on Virgin Ireland Channel 409 today.
1st. Virgin Media Ireland will close BT Sport 2 on Virgin Ireland Channel 410 today.
1st. Virgin Media Ireland will close Eir Sport 1 HD on Virgin Ireland Channel 412 today.
1st. Virgin Media Ireland will close BT Sport Europe on Virgin Ireland Channel 413 today.
1st. Virgin Media Ireland will close BT Sport ESPN HD on Virgin Ireland Channel 416 today.
1st. Virgin Media Ireland will close Eir Sport 2 HD on Virgin Ireland Channel 431 today.
1st. Virgin Media Ireland will close BT Sport 1 HD on Virgin Ireland Channel 439 today.
1st. Virgin Media Ireland will close BT Sport 2 HD on Virgin Ireland Channel 440 today.
1st. Virgin Media Ireland will close BT Sport Europe HD on Virgin Ireland Channel 443 today.
1st. Virgin Media Ireland will close BT Sport Extra 1 on Virgin Ireland Channel 460 today.
1st. Virgin Media Ireland will close BT Sport Extra 2 on Virgin Ireland Channel 461 today.
1st. Virgin Media Ireland will close BT Sport Extra 3 on Virgin Ireland Channel 462 today.
1st. Virgin Media Ireland will close BT Sport Extra 4 on Virgin Ireland Channel 463 today.
1st. Virgin Media Ireland will close BT Sport Extra 5 on Virgin Ireland Channel 464 today.
1st. Virgin Media Ireland will close BT Sport Extra 6 on Virgin Ireland Channel 465 today.
4th. BT will rebrand BT Sport Europe HD as BT Sport 3 HD on Virgin UK Channel 529.
4th. BT will rebrand BT Sport Europe as BT Sport 3 on Virgin UK Channel 533.
By 5th. Virgin Media UK may move BBC Red Button 1 from Virgin UK Channel 991 to Virgin UK Channel TBC.
By 5th. Virgin Media UK may rebrand BBC Red Button 1 as BBC Olympics 1 today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
By 5th. Virgin Media UK will launch BBC Olympics 1 HD by today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
By 5th. Virgin Media UK will relaunch BBC Olympics 2 by today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
By 5th. Virgin Media UK will launch BBC Olympics 2 HD by today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
By 5th. Virgin Media UK will relaunch BBC Olympics 3 by today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
By 5th. Virgin Media UK will launch BBC Olympics 3 HD by today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
By 5th. Virgin Media UK will relaunch BBC Olympics 4 by today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
By 5th. Virgin Media UK will launch BBC Olympics 4 HD by today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
By 5th. Virgin Media UK will relaunch BBC Olympics 5 by today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
By 5th. Virgin Media UK will launch BBC Olympics 5 HD by today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
By 5th. Virgin Media UK will relaunch BBC Olympics 6 by today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
By 5th. Virgin Media UK will launch BBC Olympics 6 HD by today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
By 5th. Virgin Media UK will launch BBC Olympics 7 by today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
By 5th. Virgin Media UK will launch BBC Olympics 7 HD by today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
By 5th. Virgin Media UK will launch BBC Olympics 8 by today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
By 5th. Virgin Media UK will launch BBC Olympics 8 HD by today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
22nd. Virgin Media UK will rebrand BBC Olympics 1 as BBC Red Button 1.
22nd. Virgin Media UK may move BBC Red Button 1 from Virgin UK Channel TBC to Virgin UK Channel 991 today.
22nd. Virgin Media UK will close BBC Olympics 1 HD today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
22nd. Virgin Media UK will close BBC Olympics 2 today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
22nd. Virgin Media UK will close BBC Olympics 2 HD today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
22nd. Virgin Media UK will close BBC Olympics 3 today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
22nd. Virgin Media UK will close BBC Olympics 3 HD today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
22nd. Virgin Media UK will close BBC Olympics 4 today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
22nd. Virgin Media UK will close BBC Olympics 4 HD today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
22nd. Virgin Media UK will close BBC Olympics 5 today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
22nd. Virgin Media UK will close BBC Olympics 5 HD today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
22nd. Virgin Media UK will close BBC Olympics 6 today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
22nd. Virgin Media UK will close BBC Olympics 6 HD today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
22nd. Virgin Media UK will close BBC Olympics 7 today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
22nd. Virgin Media UK will close BBC Olympics 7 HD today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
22nd. Virgin Media UK will close BBC Olympics 8 today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
22nd. Virgin Media UK will close BBC Olympics 8 HD today on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
24th. Sky Sports will launch Sky Sports Mix today on Virgin UK Channel TBC and Virgin Ireland Channel TBC.
24th. Sky Sports will launch Sky Sports Mix HD today on Virgin UK Channel TBC and Virgin Ireland Channel TBC.
-Sky Cinema will rebrand Sky Cinema Harry Potter as Sky Cinema Greats on Virgin UK Channel 404 and Virgin Ireland Channel 307.
-Sky Cinema will rebrand Sky Cinema Harry Potter HD as Sky Cinema Greats HD on Virgin UK Channel 434 and Virgin Ireland Channel 337.


=== September ===
No News...

=== October ===
No News...

=== November ===
No News...

=== December ===
No News...

=== Before 2017 ====
-ITV will launch an HD Channel for ITV Anglia (East) region on Virgin UK Channel 113 soon.
-ITV will launch an HD Channel for ITV Tyne Tees region on Virgin UK Channel 113 soon.
-ITV will launch an HD Channel for ITV Yorkshire (West) region on Virgin UK Channel 113 soon.

=== January 2017 ===
No News...

=== February 2017 ===
No News...

=== March 2017 ===
No News...

=== April 2017 ===
No News...

=== May 2017 ===
No News...

=== June 2017 ===
No News...

=== July 2017 ===
No News...

=== August 2017 ===
No News...

=== September 2017 ===
No News...

=== October 2017 ===
No News...

=== November 2017 ===
No News...

=== December 2017 ===
No News...

=== Local TV on Virgin Media ===
-All the following Local TV broadcasters may launch by 2017 on Virgin UK Channel 159:

-Bay TV Swansea
-YourTV Manchester
-YourTV Blackpool & Preston
-That’s Basingstoke
-That’s Surrey
-That's Solent - CHANNEL TESTING ON VIRGIN MEDIA UK.
-That’s Reading
-That’s Salisbury
-That's Oxford


=== Unknown dates ===
-The BBC hope to launch English regional variants of its existing BBC One HD service as well as Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland editions of BBC Two HD - but still need to be approved by the BBC Trust.

=== Channels ONLY in Virgin Media Ireland areas ===
List last updated on February 8th 2016.

ONLY TV CHANNELS THAT ONLY BROADCAST IN THE UK ON OTHER NETWORKS WILL APPEAR ON THIS PART OF THE LIST.

ALSO THE FOLLOWING LIST OF CHANNELS IS CURRENTLY BROADCASTING ON VIRGIN MEDIA IRELAND BUT NOT ON VIRGIN MEDIA UK:


Documentaries/News:
-History HD
-Crime + Investigation HD
-RT

Lifestyle:
-Fashion TV

Music:
-MTV Classic

Kids:
-Disney Channel HD

Specialist:
-EWTN

Radio:
-UCB Ireland

Channels only in Virgin Media Ireland areas.

©copyright 2016 Media Boy 2006 - 2016. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

==== Virgin Media's Deals with broadcasters ===
Full list now at: http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/p...adcasters.html

This part of list has now moved to my blog - follow link.

=== What is Media Boy on about??? ===
Here is what I mean when I post the following on Cable Forum:

Virgin Sources - means just that.
'Do Not Post' order - means an Virgin insider has given me some info on things that set to happen but has told me not to reveal it right now.

=== Media Boy Extra info: ===
Liberty Global - http://www.lgi.com/
Media Boy Blog - For all things Virgin UK and Ireland - http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/
Follow Virgin Media UK on ''twitter'' here - http://twitter.com/virginmedia
Follow Virgin Media Ireland on ''twitter'' here - https://twitter.com/VirginMediaIE
See Nialli's blog on Virgin Media High Definition & TiVo Services here - http://vmhd.blogspot.com/


=== Ask Media Boy ===
Last updated January 4th 2016.

Q: WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFORMATION ABOUT VIRGIN MEDIA FROM?
A: Media Boy HQ gets all info from Virgin Media viewers, some Virgin Media workers (I called them Virgin Sources) and Web Sites (NOTE: When I used web sites I will post an link to that web site).

Q: WHY HAVE YOU ADDED 'ONLY IN VIRGIN MEDIA IRELAND AREAS' AND INFORMATION ON VIRGIN MEDIA IRELAND ON THIS THREAD IS FOR VIRGIN MEDIA UK?
A: Virgin Media Ireland is now part of Virgin Media and are both owned by Liberty Global. And you voted for Media Boy HQ to join both Virgin Media UK and Virgin Media Ireland threads up for 2016.

Q: WHY AM I NOT GETTING ''DISNEY CHANNEL HD'' FOR?
A: Disney Channel HD is only broadcasting in Virgin Media Ireland areas right now.

==== See you later ===
List last updated on July 21st 2016.

Next update: TBC.

A) If Virgin Media UK/Ireland are set to launch more than TWO channels (TV or Radio) in Virgin Media UK/Ireland areas.
B) If Virgin Media UK/Ireland are set to move more than TWO channels (TV or Radio) about in Virgin Media UK/Ireland areas.
C) If Virgin Media UK/Ireland are set to close or repackage more then TWO channels (TV or Radio) in Virgin Media UK/Ireland areas.

©copyright 2016 Media Boy 2006 - 2016. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

Media Boy UK 21-07-2016 22:55

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35850427)
The first episode of Mr Robot which starts this Thursday on Universal Channel is now available in HD on Virgin Media with the Universal Channel HD DOG.

Could this suggest that Universal Channel HD is finally launching on Virgin Media, in time for this new series?

With Virgin Media UK moving BBC Four HD down an channel slot on Tuesday we feel Virgin Media UK are set to launch something on any channels from 164 to 166.

A)

164. Universal HD
165. Syfy HD
166. S4C

B - Base on NBCUniversal SD Channels)

164. Syfy HD
165. Universal HD
166. S4C

C)

164. Syfy HD
165. S4C
166. S4C HD

We are maybe putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5 - Our sources has not confirmed any more channels set to move to new slots after Tuesday.

bennyhill 22-07-2016 13:44

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
BBC Olympic Channel Numbers (courtesy of A516Digital)

Virgin Media

BBC Olympics 1 - HD channel 561
BBC Olympics 2 - HD channel 562
BBC Olympics 3 - HD channel 563
BBC Olympics 4 - HD channel 564
BBC Olympics 5 - HD channel 565
BBC Olympics 6 - HD channel 566
BBC Olympics 7 - HD channel 567
BBC Olympics 8 - HD channel 568
BBC Olympics 1 - SD channel 571
BBC Olympics 2 - SD channel 572
BBC Olympics 3 - SD channel 573
BBC Olympics 4 - SD channel 574
BBC Olympics 5 - SD channel 575
BBC Olympics 6 - SD channel 576
BBC Olympics 7 - SD channel 577
BBC Olympics 8 - SD channel 578

The channels will launch automatically on the Virgin Media EPG - viewers should not need to do anything. These streams replace the current Red Button service.

Watch 24 streams of Olympic action via BBC Red Button+ or the BBC Sport App on compatible connected TVs and boxes.

undertakereddie 22-07-2016 14:22

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Just Been Announced: Channel 5 are scrapping 5+24 channel and are replacing it with my5 a simalir channel to 4seven according to tvwise.

jj20x 22-07-2016 17:37

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bennyhill (Post 35850685)
BBC Olympic Channel Numbers (courtesy of A516Digital)

Virgin Media

BBC Olympics 1 - HD channel 561
BBC Olympics 2 - HD channel 562
BBC Olympics 3 - HD channel 563
BBC Olympics 4 - HD channel 564
BBC Olympics 5 - HD channel 565
BBC Olympics 6 - HD channel 566
BBC Olympics 7 - HD channel 567
BBC Olympics 8 - HD channel 568
BBC Olympics 1 - SD channel 571
BBC Olympics 2 - SD channel 572
BBC Olympics 3 - SD channel 573
BBC Olympics 4 - SD channel 574
BBC Olympics 5 - SD channel 575
BBC Olympics 6 - SD channel 576
BBC Olympics 7 - SD channel 577
BBC Olympics 8 - SD channel 578

Interesting. The BBC Blog lists the channel numbers but doesn't state which ones are HD. It does, however, indicate that Sky & Freesat will make the HD versions available on the lower EPG numbers, suggesting that Virgin Media will use the lower set of numbers for SD.

I wonder if a516digital has another source of information or if it is just guesswork.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/abouttheb...3-3ef9d90e3403

Mad Max 22-07-2016 19:22

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35850427)
The first episode of Mr Robot which starts this Thursday on Universal Channel is now available in HD on Virgin Media with the Universal Channel HD DOG.

Could this suggest that Universal Channel HD is finally launching on Virgin Media, in time for this new series?


We don't have that channel in HD!

RobboEdin 22-07-2016 19:51

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Mr Robot is also on Syfy HD.

telegramsam 22-07-2016 19:54

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35850717)
Mr Robot is also on Syfy HD.

It's gone off on demand now which is very anoying as I was only about half way throughwatching it!

RobboEdin 22-07-2016 19:55

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35850719)
It's gone off on demand now which is very anoying as I was only about half way throughwatching it!

..then record it as only Ep 1 and 2 have broadcast.

theone2k10 22-07-2016 19:58

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35850711)
We don't have that channel in HD!

Yet ;)

RichardCoulter 22-07-2016 21:36

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35850711)
We don't have that channel in HD!

That's why I mentioned it, i'm hoping its a sign that Universal HD is coming for those that want it.

telegramsam 22-07-2016 22:17

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35850721)
..then record it as only Ep 1 and 2 have broadcast.

It was episode 1 & 2 I was watching! At least I presume it was 1 & 2 because although it said the length of the on demand program was 45 minutes I was up to 55 minutes when I stopped watching.

Mad Max 23-07-2016 00:39

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35850719)
It's gone off on demand now which is very anoying as I was only about half way throughwatching it!

Similar, my wife and I settled down to watch the first episode of this as we were really looking forward to it after reading positive reviews etc, but guess what? yup you've got it " VOD is unavailable at the moment, with a code number 6096 at the bottom" please try later, so we did, 15 mins later, same scenario, 20 mins later after 2nd try, yup, same scenario, 1 hour after last try, and again, same scenario. VOD from Virgin is a complete friggin joke, what do we pay them for? Their service is fast becoming a farce, and we the customers are being royally ripped off!
Why publish a service that you cannot provide, and at the same time expect people to pay for it, it's totally unacceptable and a complete mess!

DaMac 23-07-2016 07:28

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
At my previous address I had VOD problems for nearly 2 years, if I could get a competent engineer out they said it was due to the amount of splitters being used in the green box, basically lazy installers.

RichardCoulter 23-07-2016 09:00

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Just had a thought, when my5 takes over from Channel 5 +24, there's nothing to stop Viacom from adding programmes from Spike, 5USA and 5Star if they wanted to.

This would also be a way for Viacom to get Spike programming onto VM at no extra cost.

johnasimmons 23-07-2016 10:53

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35850755)
Just had a thought, when my5 takes over from Channel 5 +24, there's nothing to stop Viacom from adding programmes from Spike, 5USA and 5Star if they wanted to.

This would also be a way for Viacom to get Spike programming onto VM at no extra cost.

I was just thinking the same thing! :)

theone2k10 23-07-2016 13:58

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
New rumour and source to us VM are in talks with Netflix to offer Netflix original content on vm on demand.
Not sure if this is true or not but in the USA and a few other countries Netflix original content is on other services for example el rey show from dusk til dawn the series.
We will keep you all updated with any further info we find out but we think it's a 10% chance of happening.

telegramsam 23-07-2016 14:03

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35850781)
New rumour and source to us VM are in talks with Netflix to offer Netflix original content on vm on demand.
Not sure if this is true or not but in the USA and a few other countries Netflix original content is on other services for example el rey show from dusk til dawn the series.
We will keep you all updated with any further info we find out but we think it's a 10% chance of happening.

Be good if it happens.

muppetman11 23-07-2016 14:04

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35850781)
New rumour and source to us VM are in talks with Netflix to offer Netflix original content on vm on demand.
Not sure if this is true or not but in the USA and a few other countries Netflix original content is on other services for example el rey show from dusk til dawn the series.
We will keep you all updated with any further info we find out but we think it's a 10% chance of happening.

I think you may find it actually launched on El Rey , in other countries it was marketed as a Netflix Original.

theone2k10 23-07-2016 14:42

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35850783)
I think you may find it actually launched on El Rey , in other countries it was marketed as a Netflix Original.

Thanks for info :) yeah netflix do same with Scream it launched on MTV in USA but in uk it's marketed as Netflix original.
Maybe that's the route vm are going down?
I'm going to ask my source to dig into this a bit.

Mad Max 23-07-2016 17:30

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35850781)
New rumour and source to us VM are in talks with Netflix to offer Netflix original content on vm on demand.
Not sure if this is true or not but in the USA and a few other countries Netflix original content is on other services for example el rey show from dusk til dawn the series.
We will keep you all updated with any further info we find out but we think it's a 10% chance of happening.


Not good odds mate...

denphone 23-07-2016 17:39

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
l would say the chances are nil pure and simple.....

theone2k10 23-07-2016 22:42

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35850806)
l would say the chances are nil pure and simple.....

Really and what grounds are these chances based on?
Netflix have already done a deal with Canadian network City to air Netflix original between so who knows? money talks, actually this is vm we're talking about so yeah i can see what you mean.

jj20x 24-07-2016 01:12

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35850634)
-Virgin Media UK will launch Arabic Hafla soon on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
-Virgin Media UK will launch Fox News Channel soon on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
-Virgin Media UK will launch NDTV India soon on Virgin UK Channel TBC.
-Virgin Media UK will launch NDTV Spice soon on Virgin UK Channel TBC.

When spiderplant commented earlier in the month that much of what gets called "testing" on this forum actually isn't, I linked to a website showing all services on all of VMs transport streams in a certain region. I was quite surprised that none of the above were listed in any of the recent scans. Although I don't have any equipment to check for myself, I know an SDR hobbyist and asked if he could figure out what is happening. He wasn't interested enough to obtain the drivers but knew someone who would have suitable equipment.

As spiderplant suggested, there are many services in the service description table which are hidden from the EPG, including every regional variation of BBC, ITV & C4, every local tv station carried by VM, listings for "channel moved" placeholders that at have long since been removed, and many others.

Arabic Hafla, Fox News Channel, NDTV India and NDTV Spice all fall into that category. They are all listed in the service description table and each has EPG data associated with it. None of the services were carried on any of the transport streams, so the conclusion has to be that they are certainly not testing across the entire VM network.

He suggested that they may have been added in preparation for future channels, or that they may have tested in the past and subsequently been removed. The number of "Channel moved" entries seems to suggest that VM doesn't necessarily remove the service description entries when the "service" is removed. No reason why they should as this isn't visible to the customer under normal circumstances. The final possibility being that the services are being tested on an isolated segment of the network, available only to VM staff, but if that was the case, why add the service descriptions globally?

Arabic Hafla: this service is listed as being on transport stream TSid 44 with a service id of 4412. There was no service id 4412 active on TSid 44.

Interesting that the EPG data refers to this as a TIVO service, other services on that transport stream are TIVO related services such as Netflix, Worldbox, Vevo etc. So it may eventually show up as an Arabic version of Worldbox.

Tsid 1 lists various "tiers", "Spanish Tier", "Portuguese Tier", "French Tier" and "Polish Tier". Definitely not new channels but presumably associated with the new Worldbox apps such as Spanish Viva and Portuguese Coleta, which VM don't seem to be giving much publicity. Maybe an indication that French & Polish Worldbox apps may be "coming soon to Virgin Media". Alas, nothing in there for an "Arabic Tier" that could be linked to Arabic Hafla.

NDTV India and NDTV Spice are listed as being services 1031 and 1032 on TSid 10. Again, these services are not actually running on TSid 10.

Fox News Channel is listed as being on TSid 20 with a service id of 2015. As with the above services, there was no service id 2015 present on TSid 20.

Quite disappointing overall to discover that these "tests" are just entries made in service description tables with no active services actually "testing" across the network.

So are there any tests taking place?

Other than the possible indication of future apps and the BBC Olympic channels, not really, not new channels at least. He discovered some additional transport streams on frequencies above the regular channels. These were labelled "Freq Test" and clearly there to test the frequency range rather than test new channels. The service description tables also listed other services on transport streams which were not actually active. TSid 389 listed as carrying various test streams labelled Test 1 to Test 12 and TSid 399 listed as carrying 2 services: Top Left 4KTV test and Bot Left 4KTV test - he said there were no services listed as carrying Top Right or Bot Right.

I won't speculate about that last one but I daresay that there won't be a flood of 1/4 screen UHD TV channels coming soon to VM. ;)

That's about it, he said that examining the network information table might reveal more but with the hundreds of entries in there, he wasn't inclined to spend vast amounts of time trying to unravel it. On the whole, he said that cable tv is of little interest to the hobbyist. Most of what is carried on VM is encrypted and there is generally a much wider choice of FTA channels available on Freeview and satellite, so no incentive for anyone to explore DVB-C in this country.

blue666666 24-07-2016 02:56

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Thank for info jj20x

denphone 24-07-2016 07:30

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35850827)
Really and what grounds are these chances based on?
Netflix have already done a deal with Canadian network City to air Netflix original between so who knows? money talks, actually this is vm we're talking about so yeah i can see what you mean.

Come on us Virgin customers have to be realistic old chap.;)

The Yank 24-07-2016 10:16

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35850781)
New rumour and source to us VM are in talks with Netflix to offer Netflix original content on vm on demand.
Not sure if this is true or not but in the USA and a few other countries Netflix original content is on other services for example el rey show from dusk til dawn the series.
We will keep you all updated with any further info we find out but we think it's a 10% chance of happening.

It is not something I have watched (yet) so I don't know how many series there have been but Netflix USA has series 1 + 2 on it plus 3 movies of it I think I saw listed.

theone2k10 24-07-2016 12:02

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Yank (Post 35850847)
It is not something I have watched (yet) so I don't know how many series there have been but Netflix USA has series 1 + 2 on it plus 3 movies of it I think I saw listed.

2 seasons plus 3 movies the 3rd movie is awful lol, 3rd season airs this year i el rey and netflix i think.
It's not a bad show i really hope my source is correct that vm are in talks with netflix as it will be a nice treat for VM customers.

---------- Post added at 12:02 ---------- Previous post was at 12:00 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35850836)
Come on us Virgin customers have to be realistic old chap.;)

I know that feeling my friend after being with BT but the nightmare is over thanks to BTs price rises although sse who i'm with now have no tv yet.
As i said though i hope vm and netflix do work together it'll be a nice treat for you guys on vm.

muppetman11 24-07-2016 12:23

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35850827)
Really and what grounds are these chances based on?
Netflix have already done a deal with Canadian network City to air Netflix original between so who knows? money talks, actually this is vm we're talking about so yeah i can see what you mean.

It's not a case of broadcasters showing Netflix originals , it's the broadcaster in question commissions and shows the content in their home country whilst Netflix jumps in co-producing and distributes in every other region across its global footprint.

Horizon 24-07-2016 13:26

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35850831)
That's about it, he said that examining the network information table might reveal more but with the hundreds of entries in there, he wasn't inclined to spend vast amounts of time trying to unravel it. On the whole, he said that cable tv is of little interest to the hobbyist. Most of what is carried on VM is encrypted and there is generally a much wider choice of FTA channels available on Freeview and satellite, so no incentive for anyone to explore DVB-C in this country.

Plus, it wouldn't tell you whether a channel was going to launch or not anyway as cable is a closed off system, unlike satellite.

Satellite capacity costs money, so if someone wants to launch a channel on satellite they either have to do a deal with Sky, or with the satellite operator Astra. So when a test appears, knowing that this costs money to lease capacity, it is likely something will happen and a channel will launch.

But VM's cable system is their own. They could privately have every satellite channel on the cable system "testing", that wouldn't make any difference to cost as they're not renting capacity from anyone, its their's already.

The costs to VM come when they increase capacity and that last happened in 2010 when the amount of streams increased from around 36 to 48. Mediaboy has said new streams are testing in his area, but I have not seen them in my area yet.

Many of the tests are done when these new streams are created to check that they are working properly so that when and if VM want to launch new services, they can do so immediately, ie like when BT Sports channels launched. They just appeared.

When VM want to launch something, they will, and I doubt there will be many tests or anything to warn us about this before hand.

Analogue cable was more fun!;)

RichardCoulter 24-07-2016 16:46

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35850865)
Plus, it wouldn't tell you whether a channel was going to launch or not anyway as cable is a closed off system, unlike satellite.

Satellite capacity costs money, so if someone wants to launch a channel on satellite they either have to do a deal with Sky, or with the satellite operator Astra. So when a test appears, knowing that this costs money to lease capacity, it is likely something will happen and a channel will launch.

But VM's cable system is their own. They could privately have every satellite channel on the cable system "testing", that wouldn't make any difference to cost as they're not renting capacity from anyone, its their's already.

The costs to VM come when they increase capacity and that last happened in 2010 when the amount of streams increased from around 36 to 48. Mediaboy has said new streams are testing in his area, but I have not seen them in my area yet.

Many of the tests are done when these new streams are created to check that they are working properly so that when and if VM want to launch new services, they can do so immediately, ie like when BT Sports channels launched. They just appeared.

When VM want to launch something, they will, and I doubt there will be many tests or anything to warn us about this before hand.

Analogue cable was more fun!;)

Never had analogue cable, did they test channels prior to launch in full view of the public?

Horizon 24-07-2016 17:12

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
...not in full view, no, but there were ways and means. These days, only VM staff would be able to see real tests on specially modified boxes. Everything else is just "noise".

jj20x 24-07-2016 17:27

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35850865)
Plus, it wouldn't tell you whether a channel was going to launch or not anyway as cable is a closed off system, unlike satellite.

True, but I don't think he was really concerned about possible launches, more about what additional FTA services cable has. SDR enthusiasts are generally more interested in unusual services they can use than rather than basic tv services they can't use. He did point out that a local tv channel was "present" and encrypted. It isn't available on Tivo, so presumably this is only made available at specific local hubs and not to all properties served by the regional headend. Perhaps a little over-restrictive for a channel available to everyone over the internet.

Quote:

But VM's cable system is their own. They could privately have every satellite channel on the cable system "testing", that wouldn't make any difference to cost as they're not renting capacity from anyone, its their's already.
But if they are running infrastructure and not renting it out to anyone, there would be operating costs. Having said that, the digitalbitrate scans indicate that TSid 44 had reserved capacity for additional BBC RB services off the EPG.

Quote:

The costs to VM come when they increase capacity and that last happened in 2010 when the amount of streams increased from around 36 to 48. Mediaboy has said new streams are testing in his area, but I have not seen them in my area yet.
Indeed, locally Tivo claims there are 52 transport streams. Ok, there's 45 transport streams carrying national channels (TSids 1-45) and 3 carrying regional services (TSids 101, 102 & 104), 4 used to deliver VOD and a further 4 carrying frequency tests. That's 56 in total, presumably Tivo ignores the frequency tests.

I'd be interested to see confirmation of what is actually testing with actual video/audio streams present in the transport streams in mediaboy's area. If the "tests" are just service descriptions picked up by scanning for cable channels on a basic tv with a cable tuner, they aren't necessarily real tests. I would say that a service description not linked to an actual service doesn't qualify as a test, although it could still be an indication of a service "coming soon".

You raise a point about services testing in certain areas. I thought that NGTV was supposed to bring a uniform delivery across the network. I don't see why different versions of the national transport streams (1-45) would be made available in different regions. All of these "tests" are on those transport streams.

Quote:

Many of the tests are done when these new streams are created to check that they are working properly so that when and if VM want to launch new services, they can do so immediately, ie like when BT Sports channels launched. They just appeared.
BT Sport channels share capacity with pre-existing channels on various transport streams, so it's a given that the transport streams are working. If the feeds arriving at the central headend and the EPG data is correct, substantial testing shouldn't be required and new services should be able to be added quickly. Sure, there are still procedures to follow and tests to be done but it shouldn't take months. ;)

TSid 22 and 23 seem to be held in reserve for new services and have recently populated with BBC Olympics HD channels. The service description tables have entries for "hidden 22" and "hidden 23", so these transport streams presumably go dormant when not in use. Similarly there is a "hidden 103" in the service description tables, so presumably a dormant TSid 103. I'm not quite sure how much demand there is likely to be for a pop-up regional transport stream.

Quote:

When VM want to launch something, they will, and I doubt there will be many tests or anything to warn us about this before hand.
Unless they are BBC channels and the BBC Blog warns everyone long before VM does. ;)

Quote:

Analogue cable was more fun!;)
Although it didn't have the capacity to satisfy the current level of demand for "more channels".

RichardCoulter 24-07-2016 19:25

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35850914)
...You raise a point about services testing in certain areas. I thought that NGTV was supposed to bring a uniform delivery across the network. I don't see why different versions of the national transport streams (1-45) would be made available in different regions. All of these "tests" are on those transport streams.

I thought this too and assumed that eg all the BBC1, ITV regions would be carried everywhere and only appear on the EPG in the relevant areas.

However, I was told that, like the local TV channels they are only inserted into the headend in the appropriate places :confused:

jj20x 24-07-2016 19:54

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35850931)
I thought this too and assumed that eg all the BBC1, ITV regions would be carried everywhere and only appear on the EPG in the relevant areas.

However, I was told that, like the local TV channels they are only inserted into the headend in the appropriate places :confused:

I was referring to the national channels on TSids 1 to 45. As you say, regional variations and local channels are inserted onto regional transport streams at the regional headend. TSid 101 carries BBC regions and local TV stations served by the regional headend plus RTE in Northern Ireland. TSid 102 carries ITV / Ch4 (regional advertising) variations served by the regional headend plus, I think, TG4 in Northern Ireland. TSid 104 carries regional BBC One / ITV HD variations. Obviously, the channels carried on these transport streams will be different at each regional headend. There's no obvious reason for regional headends to vary the content of the transport streams (1-45) carrying only national channels.

Horizon 24-07-2016 21:47

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35850914)
True, but I don't think he was really concerned about possible launches, more about what additional FTA services cable has. SDR enthusiasts are generally more interested in unusual services they can use than rather than basic tv services they can't use. He did point out that a local tv channel was "present" and encrypted. It isn't available on Tivo, so presumably this is only made available at specific local hubs and not to all properties served by the regional headend. Perhaps a little over-restrictive for a channel available to everyone over the internet.

There's no such thing as FTA - Free to air on cable. As said, its a closed system which is why we don't get all the Freeview channels as separate deals have to be done for them to appear on cable. You used to be able to plug a tv straight into the cable socket and get some channels without a box as they were FTA, but as far as I know now all channels are encrypted, Local channels differ from area to area.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35850914)
Indeed, locally Tivo claims there are 52 transport streams. Ok, there's 45 transport streams carrying national channels (TSids 1-45) and 3 carrying regional services (TSids 101, 102 & 104), 4 used to deliver VOD and a further 4 carrying frequency tests. That's 56 in total, presumably Tivo ignores the frequency tests.

I'd be interested to see confirmation of what is actually testing with actual video/audio streams present in the transport streams in mediaboy's area. If the "tests" are just service descriptions picked up by scanning for cable channels on a basic tv with a cable tuner, they aren't necessarily real tests. I would say that a service description not linked to an actual service doesn't qualify as a test, although it could still be an indication of a service "coming soon".

You raise a point about services testing in certain areas. I thought that NGTV was supposed to bring a uniform delivery across the network. I don't see why different versions of the national transport streams (1-45) would be made available in different regions. All of these "tests" are on those transport streams.

Last time I checked, there was still only 48 transport streams in my area. But with the broadband upgrades, VM are no doubt increasing this especially if you are seeing 52. 8-12 streams/channels will be used for downstream broadband and 2-4 for upstream. As you say, the others are VOD services and the rest are tv.

There are different versions of some channels especially the main BBC/ITV ones for local news and regional versions too.

The service information table SI, is just that, a table, a list. All those hidden channels are not tv channels but red button services, links to vod services, pvr & information for the stbs etc.

The only people who can see genuine channel tests now are VM staff with modified stbs that unblock the signals.

jj20x 24-07-2016 22:20

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35850951)
There's no such thing as FTA - Free to air on cable..

If you had checked the digitalbitrate link I posted earlier you would be aware that your statement is nonsense, not all channels are encrypted. I won't go into what is and isn't encrypted, it's beyond the scope of what I was trying to discuss.

Quote:

Last time I checked, there was still only 48 transport streams in my area. But with the broadband upgrades, VM are no doubt increasing this especially if you are seeing 52. 8-12 streams/channels will be used for downstream broadband and 2-4 for upstream. As you say, the others are VOD services and the rest are tv.
Again, the link I posted shows that there are the number of transport streams I indicated previously. Feel free to confirm that for yourself.

The TS count doesn't include DOCSIS streams.

Quote:

The service information table SI, is just that, a table, a list. All those hidden channels are not tv channels but red button services, information for the stbs etc.
Right, and that is what TVs (with a cable tuner) load so probably why mediaboy is being told of "tests" which aren't actually active.

The red button and stb support streams are clearly labelled. I don't really think that anyone would mistake DL_Cisco8685_10072 or PVR_EPG for Fox News. ;)

Quote:

The only people who can see genuine channel tests now are VM staff with modified stbs that unblock the signals.
Nevertheless, if the tests were actually happening, there would be encrypted video / audio streams related to them in the actual transport streams. Again, feel free to examine the actual streams present on TSids 10, 20 and 44, where these tests are supposed to be taking place. There is nothing there, nothing for the customer to see, nothing for staff to see either. Not even VM staff can watch streams that simply don't exist. Check the link, check the streams, you won't find these tests.. the channels only exist in the SDT.

Sure, there may be different versions of the transport streams available to staff at, say, the central headend. If there is, that still wouldn't mean that these channels are testing across the whole VM network. They aren't.

OLD BOY 25-07-2016 09:18

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35850865)
Plus, it wouldn't tell you whether a channel was going to launch or not anyway as cable is a closed off system, unlike satellite.

Satellite capacity costs money, so if someone wants to launch a channel on satellite they either have to do a deal with Sky, or with the satellite operator Astra. So when a test appears, knowing that this costs money to lease capacity, it is likely something will happen and a channel will launch.

But VM's cable system is their own. They could privately have every satellite channel on the cable system "testing", that wouldn't make any difference to cost as they're not renting capacity from anyone, its their's already.

The costs to VM come when they increase capacity and that last happened in 2010 when the amount of streams increased from around 36 to 48. Mediaboy has said new streams are testing in his area, but I have not seen them in my area yet.

Many of the tests are done when these new streams are created to check that they are working properly so that when and if VM want to launch new services, they can do so immediately, ie like when BT Sports channels launched. They just appeared.

When VM want to launch something, they will, and I doubt there will be many tests or anything to warn us about this before hand.

Analogue cable was more fun!;)

Interesting. So when we are told by our crystal ball gazers that x channels are testing, this does not indicate that these channels are launching, or may launch, at all!

So there is absolutely no point in these posts, they are just misleading. If we get any more 'channels testing' messages on the 'Coming Soon' thread, we can safely ignore them as totally meaningless!

It's just like April Fools Day all over again!! :Sprint:

Horizon 25-07-2016 10:35

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35850957)
If you had checked the digitalbitrate link I posted earlier you would be aware that your statement is nonsense, not all channels are encrypted. I won't go into what is and isn't encrypted, it's beyond the scope of what I was trying to discuss.



Again, the link I posted shows that there are the number of transport streams I indicated previously. Feel free to confirm that for yourself.

The TS count doesn't include DOCSIS streams.



Right, and that is what TVs (with a cable tuner) load so probably why mediaboy is being told of "tests" which aren't actually active.

The red button and stb support streams are clearly labelled. I don't really think that anyone would mistake DL_Cisco8685_10072 or PVR_EPG for Fox News. ;)



Nevertheless, if the tests were actually happening, there would be encrypted video / audio streams related to them in the actual transport streams. Again, feel free to examine the actual streams present on TSids 10, 20 and 44, where these tests are supposed to be taking place. There is nothing there, nothing for the customer to see, nothing for staff to see either. Not even VM staff can watch streams that simply don't exist. Check the link, check the streams, you won't find these tests.. the channels only exist in the SDT.

Sure, there may be different versions of the transport streams available to staff at, say, the central headend. If there is, that still wouldn't mean that these channels are testing across the whole VM network. They aren't.

I currently don't have a dvb-c pc card, so I cannot check whether all channels are encrypted or not. Or, whether tests are happening or not, so I cannot check whether the information from that foreign based site is accurate.

If anyone has a dvb-c card, perhaps they can have a look. Even a tv with a built in cable tuner, samsung does them, would tell if some channels are FTA.

---------- Post added at 10:35 ---------- Previous post was at 10:27 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35851008)
Interesting. So when we are told by our crystal ball gazers that x channels are testing, this does not indicate that these channels are launching, or may launch, at all!

So there is absolutely no point in these posts, they are just misleading. If we get any more 'channels testing' messages on the 'Coming Soon' thread, we can safely ignore them as totally meaningless!

It's just like April Fools Day all over again!! :Sprint:

As I just said above, I don't have the equipment to check myself so cannot argue with 100% certainty one way or the other. But my position remains the same, unless proven otherwise.

If anyone wishes to buy me a dvb-c card as an early Christmas present, I will check!;)

1andrew1 25-07-2016 12:15

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35851008)
Interesting. So when we are told by our crystal ball gazers that x channels are testing, this does not indicate that these channels are launching, or may launch, at all!

So there is absolutely no point in these posts, they are just misleading. If we get any more 'channels testing' messages on the 'Coming Soon' thread, we can safely ignore them as totally meaningless!

It's just like April Fools Day all over again!! :Sprint:

I guess it means that there may be a chance that they will launch and presumably they have a higher chance of launching than channels that are not known to be testing. It infers some form of relationship with VM even if a carriage contract has not been signed.
In other news - additional Worldbox channels have arrived. Antena 3 and Atreseries have been added to VN's Spanish Viva. http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2016/...ers-uk-market/

RichardCoulter 25-07-2016 12:55

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
A relatively recent thread discussing the VM FTA channels:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...vm-page-2.html

Is the Fox News that is broadcasting off the EPG the SD or HD version?

passingbat 25-07-2016 12:55

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35851008)
Interesting. So when we are told by our crystal ball gazers that x channels are testing, this does not indicate that these channels are launching, or may launch, at all!

So there is absolutely no point in these posts, they are just misleading.

Personally I see nothing wrong with these posts. They are people passing on rumors of possible channels that may appear. What is wrong with that? They are not stated as a fact.

If they irritate you so much, as appears to be the case, why not just skip these posts and move on to the next one?

denphone 25-07-2016 13:21

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Indeed it would be nice if some would get off their high horses now and again.

jj20x 25-07-2016 14:00

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35851017)
I currently don't have a dvb-c pc card, so I cannot check whether all channels are encrypted or not. Or, whether tests are happening or not, so I cannot check whether the information from that foreign based site is accurate.

If anyone has a dvb-c card, perhaps they can have a look. Even a tv with a built in cable tuner, samsung does them, would tell if some channels are FTA

I'm guessing then that you have failed to understand the point of the last several posts you have replied to. The SDR hobbyist running the tests, used an SDR tuner with a DVD-C driver. Basically the same as a DVB-C PC card but far more stable across the entire frequency range and heavily shielded, so less likely to inject noise into the cable network than a basic DVB-C PC card.

Your point about the digitalbitrate site possibly being inaccurate because it is foreign is just plain silly, it has DVB / DAB scans from all over Europe, it has to be based somewhere. The scans are clearly made in Liverpool. I referred you to that site as the independent scans made by the SDR hobbyist confirmed the details on the site. Each transport stream was run through a TS Analyser and I have seen csv files detailing the content of each transport stream.

---------- Post added at 13:47 ---------- Previous post was at 13:40 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35851008)
If we get any more 'channels testing' messages on the 'Coming Soon' thread, we can safely ignore them as totally meaningless!

It's just like April Fools Day all over again!! :Sprint:

LOL, "there's no smoke without fire". If a new channel name shows up it's always going to be an indication that it could be "coming soon".

The purpose of checking the actual transport streams was to reconcile the difference between claims on here of channels testing and the absence of these channels on the digitalbitrate transport stream scans. The conclusion was that the channel description and EPG data has been added to the SI tables but the services aren't present on the transport streams. "Testing" tends to suggest that the video and audio streams are up and running, waiting to be added to the EPG, that's not the case for all of the channels. The BBC Olympic channels are, largely, up and running and ready to be added to the EPG. The other "tests".. not at such an advanced stage.

It does make me wonder why VM use actual channel names at such an early stage, it would be better, for them, to use a vague service name until the service is ready to be added to the EPG.

---------- Post added at 13:49 ---------- Previous post was at 13:47 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35851048)
Is the Fox News that is broadcasting off the EPG the SD or HD version?

Hard to tell in the absence of a video stream...

---------- Post added at 14:00 ---------- Previous post was at 13:49 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35851039)
In other news - additional Worldbox channels have arrived. Antena 3 and Atreseries have been added to VN's Spanish Viva. http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2016/...ers-uk-market/

Also news here http://www.tvbeurope.com/atresmedia-coming-to-the-uk/

If VM are actually "looking to invest in foreign-language offerings" they don't seem to be giving it much publicity!

theone2k10 25-07-2016 14:08

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35851008)
Interesting. So when we are told by our crystal ball gazers that x channels are testing, this does not indicate that these channels are launching, or may launch, at all!

So there is absolutely no point in these posts, they are just misleading. If we get any more 'channels testing' messages on the 'Coming Soon' thread, we can safely ignore them as totally meaningless!

It's just like April Fools Day all over again!! :Sprint:

A bit like your constant predictions of linear tv dying then?

1andrew1 25-07-2016 14:18

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35851055)

Also news here http://www.tvbeurope.com/atresmedia-coming-to-the-uk/

If VM are actually "looking to invest in foreign-language offerings" they don't seem to be giving it much publicity!

Probably just a soft launch now as it's summer and VM will publicise Worldbox properly later on in the year.

jj20x 25-07-2016 14:37

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35851063)
Probably just a soft launch now as it's summer and VM will publicise Worldbox properly later on in the year.

Probably but as the new Worldbox channels appear to be subscription based, I would have thought that some publicity to bring in new subscribers would be in order.

RichardCoulter 25-07-2016 14:42

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35851064)
Probably but as the new Worldbox channels appear to be subscription based, I would have thought that some publicity to bring in new subscribers would be in order.

I'm not sure what the minimum level of subscription is for Worldbox, as I receive it as part of XL.

Is it available as a stand alone service?

I didn't realise that Fox News was just a label at this stage and did not have video/audio streams.

jj20x 25-07-2016 14:48

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35851068)
I'm not sure what the minimum level of subscription is for Worldbox, as I receive it as part of XL.

Is it available as a stand alone service?

I didn't realise that Fox News was just a label at this stage and did not have video/audio streams.

I also get the basic Worldbox app as part of TV XL.

Check out the apps section and the new Spanish Viva and Portuguese Coleta Worldbox apps, selecting these brings up a message stating: To see this you'll need to upgrade...

Horizon 25-07-2016 15:16

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35851055)
I'm guessing then that you have failed to understand the point of the last several posts you have replied to. The SDR hobbyist running the tests, used an SDR tuner with a DVD-C driver. Basically the same as a DVB-C PC card but far more stable across the entire frequency range and heavily shielded, so less likely to inject noise into the cable network than a basic DVB-C PC card.

I fully understand what you're talking about, I am just surprised that FTA channels exist on cable as I was told several years ago they would be axed. If they're still there, great. It will give me something to look at when I do get a new cable pc card.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35851055)
Your point about the digitalbitrate site possibly being inaccurate because it is foreign is just plain silly, it has DVB / DAB scans from all over Europe, it has to be based somewhere. The scans are clearly made in Liverpool. I referred you to that site as the independent scans made by the SDR hobbyist confirmed the details on the site. Each transport stream was run through a TS Analyser and I have seen csv files detailing the content of each transport stream.

If most of the transport streams are encrypted, I accept some are not, how does he know what the contents of the streams actually contains, unless you are saying he has equipment which can crack VM's encyption system?

RichardCoulter 25-07-2016 16:16

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35851069)
I also get the basic Worldbox app as part of TV XL.

Check out the apps section and the new Spanish Viva and Portuguese Coleta Worldbox apps, selecting these brings up a message stating: To see this you'll need to upgrade...

Ahhh right, didn't realise that they wanted extra money for these- think i'll pass :p

I assumed that niche channels like this would be free with XL in order to encourage those who want foreign language channels to upgrade or keep XL.

vincerooney 25-07-2016 16:17

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
So is uncle Vince not likely to get Fox News? What a crying shame.

Never mind let's hope the new bloke in charge of tv acquisitions can provide me with some more tasty treats

jj20x 25-07-2016 16:21

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35851071)
I fully understand what you're talking about, I am just surprised that FTA channels exist on cable as I was told several years ago they would be axed. If they're still there, great. It will give me something to look at when I do get a new cable pc card.

If you look at the digitalbitrate site and click on "details" where you see an FTA channel, there is a screencap taken at the time of the scan. I think that should really be sufficient "proof".

Quote:

If most of the transport streams are encrypted, I accept some are not, how does he know what the contents of the streams actually contains, unless you are saying he has equipment which can crack VM's encyption system?
The transport streams aren't encrypted, individual video / audio streams within them are. Things have moved on since the days of analogue, a transport stream can contain a mixture of encrypted and FTA services.

The individual streams still conform to the DVB standard, e.g. an encrypted video stream will still show up as, say, an MPEG2 Video stream and would be identified as such in the Program Map Table for that service. Basically, each video stream on each transport stream can be identified to an existing service and there were no additional, unidentified video streams. A Transport Stream Analyser does all of that automatically. Encryption doesn't "hide" the video streams within the transport stream, it just means there are additional ECM/EMM streams present to deal handle encryption and decryption in the set top box. The presence of the streams can be validated, that doesn't mean that the actual video/audio content of the streams can be decrypted and viewed (by the TS Analyser), that's simply not necessary.

Basically, encrypted channels carry extra streams to unscramble the contents of the video/audio streams in conjunction with the VM STB rather than hiding the streams. Again, the presence of these streams can be seen on the digitalbitrate site, which presumably uses some sort of TS analyser but uses a fixed template to display the results. Just click on "details" for an encrypted channel listed on that site, it will show the presence of the ECM streams and the type of encryption used.

The information on that site is accurate, although becoming out of date as the TS scanner appears to have been turned off recently.


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:53.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
All Posts and Content are © Cable Forum