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By giving you a credit discount of the costs for the BT sports channels:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/07/13.png

Sky Atlantic is also mentioned:

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...of course all subject to change!

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I'm starting to think the Bomber guy, or whatever his name is, could possibly be talking out of a hole in his anatomy, and not necessarily his mouth, but we all live in hope i guess!.....:nutter:

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Perhaps its time to send out the Cable Forum light brigade to track this man down.:sniper::sniper:

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This is why I never believe anything until its officially confirmed from Virgin Media

There is still 6 days to go until the ESPN channels will broadcast for the final time before BT takes them over so anything could happen by then but know VM they'll leave it extremely late and remember as well the premier league doesn't kick off until August 17th this year so they could even leave it till week commencing the 12th which is another 18 days away yet

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I had many erotic dreams of bomber after the brilliant news he gave... but yes he possibly could have got me all worked up for nothing :erm:

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I am on the job... :sniper:

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That new insider who told me about BT Sports on July 13th has today been back to me with new info.

I will not be posting that info until I get the same info from an other insider.

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Logical. Thanks MB.

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We wait with bated breath while you get it conformed MB :)

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Didn't anyone notice the word "Currently" in that add?

The add is true for today, but who knows if it will be in a few days time?

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Is it just me or on the adverts that have been posted does it not say about the credits "not currently available on virgin" or something to that effect?

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which makes it likely they will be available it just waiting for the announcement and cost

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 

To be fair BomberAF said that the BT Sport/Atlantic deal involved both Sky and BT directly advertising at VM customers in order to give VM a better deal. All the people that switch will be in contracts remember

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:gpoint:

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Also a friend who works within on air presentation at Sky has informed me that a memo has been sent round to avoid using the "exclusive to Sky" in reference to Atlantic in on air presentation...

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After seeing that BT have only signed up 500,000 which includes BT vision customers, can BT really afford not to allow BT sports in XL if only to boost the numbers subing to their premier channels.

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Do you have a URL for this to see it on sky's website?

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An good story is up on the BBC web site about BT and it says:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23446248

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So much for dear Jake and his advert about the top pic Premier League games they have!

23k? Splutter!

What's that expression? Epic Fail or summat?!

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What was the quote BT said at it's launch in May?

"Sports fans are the real winners today"

Well doesn't look like it! :p:

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exactly bt shareholders aint gonna be happy spending that money for no reward and you know sky is sure gonna up bid next time rights come up

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I wouldn't read too much into that people could be in existing contracts and can't move to BT just yet, what happens after when they are free to move?

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I think we can read a huge amount into it after all the publicity and advertising and pushing of the free HD offer which is soon to expire. Yes some will move when contracts are up but not everyone is in contract by any means.

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Good point...:tu:

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Thanks for the update MB I know your not going to post more info for now but is it good news you got again today?

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Wow I am so tempted to move, just costed up with the addition of fibre broadband, movies, HD and ents+ and it will save me £50 a month for 6 months and then be £15 cheaper a month at the end of it.

Might be worth slumming it for 12 months then Virgin will offer me the earth to come back as a new customer in 12 months.

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Thank you!

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Odd how when you click 'Compare Sky and Virgin Media at a glance', for the Virgin L pus Sports they suggest you can watch 'Live sports with Sky Go on mobiles, laptops and tablets via Wifi and 3G' yet not for the Virgin XL plus Sports package....

So nice of Sky to think of the L package users! ;)

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It is tempting isnt it! The thing is if VM have made a deal to allow BT and sky to aggressively target VM customers for channel agreements its a rather foolish move...

Yes we'd get the channels etc but i'm only going to wait out due to the rumours i've found on the forum. Meanwhile average Joe who loves his football will be running to sky with open arms at those deals!

It's such a risky move by VM

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The small print is good as it says they will be on 445,446,433?

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Calling BomberAF, BomberAF come in please..........

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AWOL?!

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Perhaps you should phone Bomber command.;)

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l bet he was one of the masters nasty little spies he sends out all the time.:D

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He/she dropped the load now waiting to be loaded again:D

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BomberAF has already said he / she isn't posting anymore but in the mean time he / she was very confident that BT Sport and Sky Atlantic will launch

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35593086-post332.html

and

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35593105-post340.html

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i'll tell you one thing about bomberaf, they're not new, they've posted 150 times and been a member since 09 according to their profile

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That's because if you read the small print of the offer it says on Skys pricing that HD isn't included , on my HD box BT Sports 1 (SD) is on 445 , BT Sports 2 (SD) is on 446 and ESPN (SD) is on 433.

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And he has had a long line of visitors too.:waving::waving:

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haha bomber if you read this i also live in liverpool i will happily buy you a drink in town tonight if you want to tell me the latest information... 6pm if you're free bomber :D

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Yep this offer is SD only

BT Sport HD is on channels 413 and 414 on the sky EPG

What sky are crediting you for is the SD channels only on channels 445 and 446

And you must take the sky sports pack

Cost for the first year with sky is £68pm but this will rise significantly for year 2

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Lets hope Media Boy's other insider confirms what he knows so he can put us all out of our misery...

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I wonder if media boy can confirm if it is potentially good or bad news at the least........

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He says he already knows something, but doesn't want to commit to saying anything until his second source confirms what MB has already been told, to me this seems to suggest that MB has news that would please most Virgin customers, but doesn't want to say too much until his second source confirms same.

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I agree :)

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Hope so I'm with sky currently for the TV but my contract is out at the end of next month so the sooner I know whats happening with BT sport the better

The premier collection is going to be very tempting if they can get it in there at no additional cost.

Like many I'm getting board of waiting now with VM can never do things the easy way I don't know sky customers have know for ages now that they'll be getting it as ever VM customers are left wondering whats going on with just 1 week till BT Sport launches and 23 days till the Premier leagues kicks off

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I hope so the sooner we know the better I can hand in my 1 months notice to sky on Sunday hopefully we'll have some good news from media boy / VM by then

:tu:

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I'm just wondering if Virgin managed to do a deal for the sd channels but not the hd ones

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Don't think VM would settle they know HD is a big player these days

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Has this article been posted on here http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...057814.article

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Yes it was posted a while back.

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Yes I'm sure it has

for those who can't see what It says

The prospect of Sky Atlantic becoming available to Virgin Media’s 3.8 million TV subscribers has moved closer after it emerged that talks between the two companies have reopened. The channel had a high-profile launch in February 2011, but the UK’s two biggest pay-TV operators never really got close to agreeing a cable carriage deal at the time.

Sources have indicated that the operators have now reopened negotiations and, although a deal is not imminent, they are significantly closer to agreeing a price for Sky Atlantic than they were two years ago. One source said a “degree of realism” had entered the talks. Sky Atlantic launched with a number of flagship series from US premium broadcaster HBO, including Boardwalk Empire and The Sopranos, after BSkyB struck an output deal with the Time Warner-owned network.

It was designed as an exclusive home for premium content, including shows such as AMC’s Mad Men and Showtime’s House Of Lies, and was conceived as a way to attract and hold on to subscribers who were less interested in sport and movie content. Dramas The Following and Game Of Thrones now regularly deliver consolidated audiences of more than 1 million. The channel had a reach of around 11.1 million viewers in the first three months of 2013, according to Barb research, a year-on-year increase of 1.3 million. This puts it level with channels such as Fox and Discovery.

It is thought that Sky could be persuaded that an additional 4 million potential viewers for Sky Atlantic would be a positive move, boosting ratings for its content, which is often accused of rating poorly relative to its quality. Carriage negotiations for Sky’s other channels on Virgin Media are due to be renewed this month, at which time a deal for Sky Atlantic is likely to be discussed.

Virgin Media could also be looking to replace ESPN, which will close this summer, in its premium XL package. It will want to ensure it keeps churn low for its top bundle and has not yet struck a deal for BT’s forthcoming sport channels. A move for a high-profile channel such as Sky Atlantic could help it retain customers. The cable operator’s outgoing chief executive Neil Berkett has previously said that Sky had initially asked for an “unrealistic price for the product”.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 

I really do feel that VM should spill the beans on BT Sport; only a week to launch...

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They mightn't have any beans to spill.

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Well, they should let us know either way then...
I notice BenMcr hasnt been around for a while, doesn't he work for VM?

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Why?

Saying it might not happen or it might happen is silly and very poor business.

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BenMcr is on the forums now but he may not be able to post anything re BT Sport begin a VM employee which could be why he's keeping quiet

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If they don't have a deal they'll be working on doing one.

If they already have one, I imagine they'll have an embargo on when they can announce it.

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You are right, I see him lurking in the 'currently active users' list down the bottom, sneeky man! :)

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They are pushing it with a week to go...

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I'd imagine BT are doing the pushing. They'll do a deal at the last possible second on the chance of people getting sick of waiting and joining BT Vision/broadband instead.

That's if they do one, I still can't see it happening.

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i honestly think it done and dusted but like bomber said there an embargo till 31st let bt sell and most of bt tv ads say offer end 31st july we find out in a week

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Well, if we don't get BT Sport I hope they have other channels to launch to make up for it...

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I hope so...

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Ben very nice man he is would not say a peep.

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Patience my old padawan.:)

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Interesting, but the article's a month old

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exactly still cant see sky changing there stance on SA

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 

And a lot can happen in a month.

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Yes, Ben is a diamond!
What's patience? ;)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 

Personally l can as goalposts and priorities change.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 

Patience is a girl's name or a game of cards for one person....

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good things come to those that wait John ;) remember ESPN was not announced to couple days before launch bt may embargo announcement to day of launch

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None will make up for it if you're a football fan. I don't understand the logic that people will be happy to have Sky Atlantic instead of BT Sport. Football fans can't watch 38 live Premier League games on Sky Atlantic, it would be no substitute whatsoever. Not everyone is into these american "entertainment" shows anyway, I couldn't care less. I want all the sport, and I want it in HD.

I am lucky as I will be getting it anyway, I have an unwanted Sky contract running out on friday and that will turn into a freesat box but it's up here in my room. Would much rather simply upgrade the Virgin setup to VIP and get the benefit of that inccreased internet, movies and free 0845 numbers etc, a VM box up here and BT Sport appearing on both boxes rather than just one. This is a key benefit of it being on VM, should it happen. Surprised more people aren't mentioning it, it's a distinct advantage over Sky (once it happens).

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Patience is also a state of endurance.

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Good point Dave :)

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It seems BT are still posting adverts through doors with the headline "Lots of ways to watch it . One way to get it - BT."
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...&postcount=465

Sky Atlantic is still be advertised as Exclusive to Sky all over sky.com and during nearly all ad breaks it displays the Sky Atlantic logo with 'Only on Sky' below it.

Make of this what you will , I appreciate things could change.

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I have noticed a lot of newbies are posting recently - welcome to the house of fun :)

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I agree if only I could get skys superfast BB I would be taking that offer too.

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Cheers

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But they would do this anyway till things are announced methinks.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 

Funnily enough, in the last week or so any ads on tv for Sky Atlantic programmes have dropped the "only / exclusive on Sky" statement...

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Indeed the more that share in the fun the better.:welcome:

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It isn't the football I am most interested in about BT sport as I am a fan of UFC. So I am really hoping that VM pulls this out off the bag and signs BT.

Also so much for the 18 top picks on the football, I don't think I have seen 5 out the list shown.

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On Twitter -
BT's Gavin Patterson says Virgin may not get BT Sports: "We are in discussions but it depends how those discussions go. It might never."
4:56pm - 25 Jul 13

https://twitter.com/JulietteGarside

Via Digital Spy forum

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Yep just saw it my self

Another tweet

BT hopes losing 38 games a season will push some Virgin homes over to BT so they can get all the Premiership matches there. Are they right?

https://twitter.com/JulietteGarside

We await further news from Media boy to see if this tweet has an truth in it

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Not looking good :(

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23k new subscribers suggests that the ads and the publicity and the anti VM guff have done very little to send people over to BT so far.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 

I need a beer :beer:

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Also that tweet is rubbish... "It might never" indeed... :-)

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:)

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BT sport said they only used 5 top picks so far

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But never say die :)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 

Goonies never say die!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 

Well I am a Gooner :)

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That's the ticket, set up new channels, grab top games then think you can con people into subscribing by picking non top games and promising better later... Hah!

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If it wasn't for the UFC I would just say sod BT sport and go the pub for the 5 decent games they will show.

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there will be no bt sports on 1st Aug. look at sky new ad very interesting and I might have to go!! http://exclusive-offers.sky.com/

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That tweet by the bt guy, they'll prob stick to that until the actual day the BT channels show up on virgin

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Just remember BT Sport is not in HD with that offer

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Away from BT sports, I notice on the virgin media website they have amazon listed as a partner, that makes me convinced that some point there could be a lovefilm app on tivo

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 

More Sabre rattling one suspects.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 

It the same info as before but they now say 'Some things will be confirmed in the coming days'.

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The drama of it all!.

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I'm off for a lay Down.

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2nd insiders has not updated me - yet.