Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

I see a pattern of the numbers 4 and 7 :D

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Tivo related question to Alibi move. Will it pick up the move of +1 ?
( I have records set on this) Hence the reason I like +1 channels !

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I'm assuming that was intentional ;)

Yes it will. This is one of the nice things about Tivo and something that I do not think either the V+ or Sky+ do.

ETA:

To clarify... any SLs on the original, SD, channel or it's +1 will be fine. You will, of course, have to manually re-create any SLs if you want them on the HD variant.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

I agree with the poster on here who said it would be nice to watch Rizzoli and Isles in HD. Not sure whether it is Angie Harmon or Sasha Alexander I am looking forward to seeing in HD more.

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Indeed :)

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Thank you can not say that HD is of any interest to me. TV is only 32" so really can not see the difference.
The Fact That TiVo can do this is a plus point, which makes a change ! However if you know ( and thats a BIG if) its no a real problem :p:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Launch times for new channels confrimed.

Info from V+.
-Q will close at 6am next Tuesday - Box TV will broadcast ''Tellyshopping'' from 6am to 5pm - Then Heat TV will launch at 5pm on Virgin Channel 338.
-Ailbi HD will launch at 7am on Channel 131 next Tuesday.

Info from Radio Times.
-4seven will launch on Virgin Channel 195 next Wednesday at 7pm to 5am then everyday from around 9am to 5am.

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Mine's only a 37" and I can tell the difference; even with my bad eyesight!

Not that I care much myself either. I wouldn't not watch something just because it wasn't in HD :)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

We as a family can not see the difference -The TV can`t be that good,Unless its just plain poor ! ( its an LG by the way)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Have you actually tried HD? Is your TV "full HD" capable?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

His TV only needs to be HD ready for HDTV on VM - as nothing is broadcast in 1080p from VM. At least the last time I checked.

Of course that's only for TV.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Oh, right. Yeah. Of course. My mistook :blush:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Hi. Rather than start a "Wimbledon" thread, does anyone know if its the BBCs' decision to only be showing 4streams this year instead of 6?

Thanks.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Right now the TiVo has 6 streams and the stream from BBC 1.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

I have seen the later post , still you would have to explain that one to me. So in answer to your question.Leaving aside the later post . I have no idea what you are saying :(

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

It down to BBC I think.

In 2013 it will only be ONE stream for viewers not using TiVo.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Ok then thanks. So I guess its VM who are choosing to only show 4 streams via the V+HD box is it? when you are still receiving 6 via TiVo.

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Again MB that will be VMs choosing will it or the BBC? Seems were getting penalised for not have TiVo (again)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Sky are only broadcasting 4 streams as well.

Info from BBC Sports web site:

Link not working on this post see post 1320 for link.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Some things you can see the difference between HD and SD. Golf for instance, you can all the contours on the course. And wildlife programmes are great in HD as well.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/16660418

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You will need to ask an Virgin worker that.

But I do know that BBC are cutting the Red Button streams on Virgin (For viewers not on TiVo) and Sky down to one stream soon - After August 10th.

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:D

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The BBC choose what to show. It is their application and their streams.

It appears they will be using the two remaining streams for other sports from tomorrow.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tv_a...io/5345480.stm

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V+ series links will continue to work if the channel number changes, and I'd be surprised if Sky got it wrong.

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:confused:


(Are we trying for a conversation just with emoticons? :D)

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Not completely correct HD Ready is anything has a resolution of 1280x720.

Full HD is 1920x1080 all HD broadcast on Sky and Virgin is in 1920x1080 althoght some channels may broadcast at a slightly lower res to skimp on bandwidth cost the output to your TV is still 1920x1080. And your Tv will deinterlace the signal for you.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

See! Knew I was too quick to capitulate :(

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

You ruined it by using words!

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:blush:

:doh:

:bigcry:

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Hi Zantarous, query, if Sky do broadcast in FULL HD are there any tv shows (i.e. Sky 1 HD... Mad dogs for example) available on Blu-Ray? Secondly, is 1920x1080not progressive as apposed to interlaced?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

It is a completely different channel. One is music, the other is celebrity based news.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Not completely correct ;). To be classed as HD Ready a display needs to have a minimum of 720 lines, and support both 720p and 1080i inputs (and a couple of other conditions). Full HD is a widely-used but unofficial term for 1080p.
http://www.digitaleurope.org/Portals...heet_logos.pdf

1920x1080 can be either progressive or interlaced, but all broadcasts on both Sky and VM are interlaced.

A quick search on Amazon says Mad Dogs is available on Blu-ray.

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Reminders have finally arrived on tivo.

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1080i is NOT full HD.

In any event a HD ready TV will show 1080i so still no need for a full HD TV for sky / VM.

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Still confused - not bothered but confused:monkey:

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Did not see anything this morning - but then I was not looking for it .

How does it present its self :confused:

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1080p will show a full HD picture on the screen at once.

1080i will show half of it then the other half.

Mind you it makes no odds to me - I can's see any difference between vhs quality and blu-ray.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Even more confused :D

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Not here in London they haven't.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

They have arrived on some TiVos on Andover, Ashford, Preston and Stoke.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

What about Plymouth SP.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Nope, not yet. It's a pilot of the new firmware in those areas.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

And how long does that last for Ben before full rollout?.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

at the moment it seems u can only set reminders on yer recording programmes

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Well until l get it l can't really comment about it.

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Pilot is for 5 weeks

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As far as I understand it, any reminder will also record the programme. So it's like an announced recording

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Seems pointless to me ( & I want reminders) the red light does that -
! O look its come on what recording ? type of job. Still no doubt it will be hailed as a great step ( not sure if thats backwards or forwards) by some
- Hi guys :cool:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

This has been my point all along. Yet VM have had to waste time getting Tivo to implement this when they should have been doing something with a higher priority. (Basically anything but reminders.)

It is a huge step backwards.

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Well being someone that's got the new feature and using it this morning my initial reaction is that this a positive addition to the TiVo, I reckon most people will like it when they've used it a bit.
I can't see that it detracts in any way from the original software.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

So the record light coming on doesn't remind you that something was recording? :confused:

It doesn't, but it's the wasted development time that I object to.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

How is adding a feature a step backwards? :rolleyes:

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I personally think that the money could could have been spent on far better things, but how is it a 'huge step backwards'?

People will get what they wanted: auto switching of the channel when their selected show starts.

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All it does is pop up a reminder that it is starting, TiVo will still record it. Which I think is a waste of time but I'm guessing due to the y TiVo works is the only way they could implement it.

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It isn't wasted time, how can it be the customers want it, Virgin wouldn't have done it without a demand for it.
Running a business should be about looking after your customers wants and needs, and with this update Virgin have done that, so it can't be wasted time

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Someone has posted that it auto switches to output the 'reminder channel'. Is this not the case?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Yes it is, the default is to change channel.

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If it's a pilot of the next firmware update (in full? Ben was't specific), then can anyone with the update advise what else there is in addition to reminders - I'd hate reminders to be the ONLY noticable change.......

Specifically, if anyone can test if they have enabled Multiroom Streaming that would be great :)

Cheers
T

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

I believe you can now set global recording options for single recordings, series links and Wishlists, and that there are less screens in playing VoD from a Search

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Many thanks for the info Ben, much apprecaited!

No MRS then <sobs>....;)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

It's debatable as to wheather that was a small proportion of customers who moaned very loudly.

In my view, some people just get stuck in old outmoded viewing habits and won't move with the times.

That development money could have been spent on other things; for example, a way of backing up series links and Whishlists. Because, unlike with V+ or Sky boxes, series links last forever (not just for a season), you need these and whishlists protecting in case of a box failure.

Maybe we would have multiroom by now if resources hadn't been tied up in providing reminders?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

I look forward to trying this tonight.

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Now, that will be a good upgrade!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

MRS doesn't need a firmware update as it's already there.

What it will need is a full end to end support model and product i.e. how Virgin recommend connecting two TiVos together

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What I meant was that it still records the program. So reminders seem a bit pointless.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Hi Ben,

Thanks for that - I appreciate MRS is down to a licencing issue and a 'How to do it in a user friendy way' - I guess i was just hoping that they would use this next update to turn it on, in much the same way they used the last update to turn the Sky PIP on, even though that was only disabled due to a licencing agreement, rather than needing any technical work to fix.

Looks like this isn't going to happen this time.

Just out of interest, do you beleive that even if the licencing is sorted, that deployment will be delayed untill the connection improvement method is decided upon - even though many of us are more that happy to use Cat5/6 cables that we already have in place?

Dont take this as having a go - i'm genuinly interested - I just cant see the logic in denying those of us that can use it today, whilst you wait for something that can help the masses tomorrow.

Regards
T

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

To be honest, I've got no idea as to the progress of any connection solution

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You don't need to tell me that; implementing reminders was a waste of development resources in my view. But those who wanted auto channel change for a specific show have now got that, so hopefully they will be happy.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

They probably won't be as the program still gets recorded.

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You must take care of your wife then mate:D

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

And that's why you wouldn't last long in VM's TiVo team. VM understand their customers and what their needs are. Maybe not the majority, but enough to listen and respond.

I think you'll find that not everyone has precisely the same methodology when watching, or recording television and that reminders, as has been discussed over and over, do suit some and not others.

'Reminders' hasn't broken or changed anything else, so the impact is zero to anyone who doesn't use them.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Can someone who has the new software test the info button on a scheduled recording please and report back?
I bet that has still not been fixed from it's bodged implementation previously

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I repeat it seems pointless to have a reminder that records. Its just a glorified red light!

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Apart from using limited money and time resources that could have been used to add new, rather than outdated, functionality.

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No it's not. It auto switches to the 'reminder channel' which is what people have been asking for.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Well that makes all the difference. Switch & record what a great idea :shocked:
You wanted to see this,here it is & we will record it as well :sleep::sleep::sleep:

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It would be interesting to know just how much time and money was spent on implementing them, but I have to say, if it was expensive or time consuming, then I doubt VM would've bothered.

It's not really outdated functionality if people are using it. Technology is there to serve needs, people aren't there to adapt to technology.

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Agreed, it's not a perfect implementation of a reminder system, but it does provide the auto switching that was the main point people made in regard to wanting reminders.

Presumably, it was because Tivo was never designed to have reminders that this compromise implementation happened? I'm sure they could have got it to not record the reminder, but that would have cost even more development time and money.

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Yes, but we all resist changing our established ways of operating, even when the new way is better.

The V+ did need a reminder function because one of the 3 channels didn't record. People have been asking for years for the V+ to make all it's 3 tuners record, rather than just 2 out of 3. Tivo did that, and eliminated the need for reminders.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

It is outdated tbh, however VM customer are used to the feature and been using it for years when there was no PVR so it was the only option and still think they need it. However they just need to update their mind set to the modern world of 3 recordable tuners ;)

People should adapt and they do, otherwise we would still be living in caves.

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Even if I had 10 tuners (which may come, who knows!), I think I would still set a reminder for a live event, or even a movie, that's starting that I'm keen and available to watch.

I have a 14 week old baby, and so more and more I'm finding that time flies by when it's feeding time, so a wee reminder that something's starting (and just as importantly - that recordings won't do) and switch the channel over for me (when I'm feeding a baby and can't quite reach the remote!).

I consider myself to be very adaptable and open to technology changes, but this is one wee bit of old school tech that still has a place in today's ever increasingly developing tech world of television viewing.

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I use reminders on the V+ to watch a programme live, when I am unable to record a programme due to all tuners being in use.

If all TiVo tuners are in use, so it is unable to record the reminded programme, will it still remind users and switch to that channel?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

So does it "offer"
This is on do you want to record . If not do you want to switch,
Or is a case of "TiVO don`t care". This is what you get and it is "record & switch" ( now were have I heard that catchy name before). Yet again nearly there but not quite. What I wanted is - This is on in "x" minutes would you like to change at start. As simple yes or no would be great.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Reminders were useful on V+

Sorry, I don't know. Only a few people have the upgrade.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Bio HD will not launch on Virgin Media after all - as Sky Viewers say goodbye to it on Monday.

An Sky worker via DS Forum has confrimed that Bio.HD is to close next week on the 3rd July 2012.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...&postcount=109

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Well seeing we never had the HD version on Virgin then we certainly will not miss it MB.:)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Story now updated on this thread.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Sky showcase to be renane sky summer from the 3rd on virgin epg 433

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

The trouble with that name change is there is not much of a summer to get excited about.:D

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

true mate :)

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We're did you here that , not seen anything about it.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Is this the first time that a major(ish) HD channel (which I believe that Sky partly own) has closed down?

I'm very surprised at this, as Sky seem more interested in playing the numbers game with HD channels, rather than their individual popularity. As I believe that HD will be the norm for all channels in the future, perhaps this casts doubt on the long term future of Bio SD??

It might also suggest that Sky would rather close down an unprofitable HD channel, than try and make it profitable by letting VM have it to increase ad revenue and subscription costs.

Talk about cutting your nose to spite your face!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Well Richard nothing surprises me about Sky but then again others will sing its praises loudly.

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Perhaps the masters eyes for once deceive him.;):D

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

It does baffle me that people need to be reminded to watch live sport, but that's another issue. This update had nothing to do with cost or taking resources away from other development, it's about removing a barrier to TiVo for customers who so far haven't upgraded, because in the long term, Virgin want everybody on the new system.

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Thanks for info - good find.

How long will Sky Movies Summer last for???

If Sky Movies Summer are anything like the Scottish Summers it will only be 10 to 14 days:):):)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

A lot longer than our summer that's for sure :LOL:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

We're is the info for this ?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Info on what Sky Movies Summer will show - http://skymovies.sky.com/your-summer-on-sky-movies-hd

I have just seen the rebrand in my copy of next weeks Radio Times (It will happen on Sunday).

UPDATE: Sky Movies Summer dates confrimed.

Sky Movies has confrim that Sky Movies Showcase will become Sky Movies Summer from July 1st 2012 to August 26th 2012 on Virgin Channel 403 and also in HD on Virgin Channel 433.

http://skymovies.sky.com/sky-movies-summer-1

NOTE: Radio Times confrim that Sky Movies are to use Sky Movies Showcase for Sky Movies Summer.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

A self-selecting group of less than a couple of hundred people does not mean that it is wanted by the majority of customers.

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Nice!

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Which is what Tivo has done from the very beginning. :rolleyes:

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If all tuners are in use (excluding suggestions) then it would have to stop recording something which kinda defeats the purpose :)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

l think you will find a clear majority wanted reminders and a minority did not Carl.:erm:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

That one actually did require a technical fix.

As Ben says, the MRS software is ready to go and has been since last year. Enabling it isn't tied to a new software update.

But how do you separate those who know what they are doing from those who only think they do?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Prove it. Show me the survey/questionaire and results.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

There is several polls that were done rest assured that stated a majority wanted them carl but its nice nevertheless that you are in such denial.:)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

MB Your so wrong we're lucky if we get a day here and there. it was nicer in March than we will have with a summer!;)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Polls on this and other such forums? Those responding would be a self selecting sample and not representative of the customer base as a whole.

I personally don't know anyone who uses/ used reminders on V+

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 

Then perhaps Andy you need to look a bit deeper as there are many who wanted reminders and alas we are finally going to get them.:)