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Newcastle in 3rd? :shocked:

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In Scotland......East Fife 3, Forfar 2

One more goal for the home side and 3 for the visitors will make it the greatest scoreline ever :D

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Forfar 5 East Fife 4 did happen in the 60s but I reckon Forfar 4 East Fife 5 would have a better ring to it. :)

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IIRC it was "East Fife 5, Forfar so far 4" or thats what dad always told me anyway :D

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Well done the Saints, best start to our season for 52 years!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15045389.stm

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your doing well but will your mob finish as strong?

do you know anything about Luke Shaw? apparently hes a 16 year old left back Arsenal are linked with.

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Another one of our great academy kids:

http://www.thefa.com/England/All-Tea...rs/S/Luke-Shaw

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/Profi...~58216,00.html

Don't be greedy, you've already had Walcott & Oxlade-Chamberlain.

Develop your own young players! ;)

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Full time scores


Aston Villa2-0Wigan
Blackburn0-4Man City
Everton0-2Liverpool
Man Utd2-0Norwich
Sunderland2-2West Brom
Wolves1-2Newcastle


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/

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Why? Southampton/Arsenal youth academy. Same thing :D

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Everton get what they deserve based on the behaviour of their fans, same story every season with the coin and bottle throwing. They deserve nothing more than contempt.

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l agree exactly as there is no excuse for that type of behavior.

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Chelsea have taken a very early lead at Bolton through Sturridge.


And Lampard has just made it 2-0

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This a shambolic performance by Bolton as Sturridge and Lampard make it 4-0 and Coyle could be getting his P45 next week.

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its now 5-1 to Chelsea as Lampard gets his hat trick and so much for the media saying he was past it and l am sure Arsenal would not mind him in their midfield.

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Full time score

Bolton 1 Chelsea 5

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Gary Neville commentary is irritating. It's a corner, already said...they are taking said corner..Gary's commentary.."They have been given a corner, by the linesman". And now, for all you 3 year olds...the ball is the object that is round.

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HA! Thats rich coming from a Liverpool fan...

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Nice result boyos :D

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What a goal by Kyle Walker. 2 - 1 to Spurs :D :D

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same ol'd, i can't be bother to go into detail, pointless record scratching.

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Just popped up on the bbcnews website

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Wasn't backed by the board. The chairman's also gone, and David Pleat left in midweek.

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Final scores


Bolton 1-5 Chelsea
Fulham 6-0 QPR
Swansea 2-0 Stoke
Tottenham 2-1 Arsenal


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...em/default.stm

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Since it's now 2011 we've learned our lesson and moved on.

Perhaps someone could explain why that place across Stanley Park seems to be the only ground in the country where the stewards stand there and watch their own fans throwing coins from the front rows.

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Another step closer to the edge for Lennon in probably the most poisonous fixture in Scottish football as Celtic crash to a 2-0 defeat at Hearts to put them in third place 10 points behind Rangers.

After last seasons shenanigans with a hearts supporter attacking Lennon and both sides displaying a songbook of sick songs this fixture is likely to have Alex Salmond foaming at the mouth thinking how many new laws he can dream up on the back of it.

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I doubt it but its a funny old situation at the minute. Newcastle have dominated every game so far apart from Arsenal who didnt dominate it was just a quiet game with minimal excitement. I think the praise should go to the excellent midfield and defence. Tim Krul really has been outstanding and IMO should be the real replacement for VDS at Manchester United (Hopefully not though)

If Newcastle can continue to beat or draw against teams lower than us and of course the defeat that will come will hopefully be at the hands of someone like Man Utd or City but even then anything can happen citing the 90's as my example in which we almost took the league just after coming into the top flight.

I'm happy to finish anywhere above 9th at this moment in time.

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Sadly the difference in the league is too great for that to happen anymore. The league always corrects itself into the order that you, more or less, expected. Gravity takes it's toll. Ask Hull and Blackpool about that. The order usually correlates with the wage bill of the clubs.

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No wonder you're after our young defender! ;)

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Do you support Rangers by any chance?

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Bacary Sagna set to miss next three months

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/...d-about-bacary

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Redknapp 'disgust' at sick chants as Allen brands Wenger 'two-bob' after handshake spat

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...don-derby.html

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He's obviously conveniently forgotten the spurs songs about Sol Campbell. :rolleyes:

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Lee Dixon doubts Arsenal's ability to challenge for Europe


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15152030.stm

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Jenkinson will be playing out of his skin then.. beyond his experience. may be it'll make him stronger, may be it'll destroy him.

the chants were out of order but such is the current state of affairs.. well all i can say is it could have been avioded by means of Wenger going out and buying talent ready for the league!

oh boo hoo Wenger didn't shake the hand of a person he felt disrespected him. don't quote me on it though.

tell us Gooners something we don't know. Wenger neglected the need to sign a few extra bodies when our squad was somewhat complete. we're now going through another rebuilding process guaranteed to fail in the same areas as before.

you know what i can't stomach! Arsenal sold off land earlier in the year. that money has become the clubs safety net should it face financial troubles. if the club doesn't make cl next year, that money will cover the losses but heres where us Gooners are ragging. 50+ mil in the transfer pot, all could have been avoided!
without that land sale the financial state to date is poor mainly due to the fact the clubs current sponsorship deals are not as rewarding as they were a few years ago when they were signed. heads at Arsenal think when the time comes to renew sponsorships, the club will be able to balance the books again but their missing something.. Man Utd are doing soo well on sponsorships because they have things to stand up tall against companies wanting their signature. its not even all about trophies. the bad media coverage, vibe around etc. etc. will result in Arsenal not being able to gain a deal as good as Utds, companies will hold the aces not the club itself!

Wengers destroying this club and this self-sustainable bull is nothing short of contradictory. Arsene has to buy in January.

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Arsenal's sponsorship deal was out of need to get funding for the stadium.

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yeah and it was extremely good at the time of signing the deal. what I'm saying is renewals are coming up, 2014 if I'm correct... what will Arsenal use to aid them getting the best possible sponsorship deal(s)? no company dealing with Arsenal will lower its guard to get a deal wrapped up regardless of having to throw a little more money. thats the problem because of Wengers neglect.

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Tottenham vow to ban fans over offensive chants in Arsenal game


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15144151.stm


Everton to take 'firm action' against fans who threw missiles


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15159288.stm

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Everton sign Bradford's George Green, 15, in reported £2m deal

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15160512.stm

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Just thought this was a interesting piece from statistician Josh James who examines the facts and figures from Arsène Wenger’s 15 years as Arsenal manager.


http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...nd-the-numbers

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Everton's Jack Rodwell wins appeal over red card

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15144233.stm




Managerial changes cost clubs £99m last season, says LMA

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15159931.stm

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15176078.stm

Here is hoping Tom Bender will be ok.

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thesuns latest report

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...horror-KO.html

looks like hes doing well :D

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Just heard this morning that he is ok thank god.

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Jack Wilshere voices his support for Arsenal's manager Arsène Wenger

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...-arsene-wenger

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Motherwell player Steve Jennings held in betting probe

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-15196761

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*Waits for Celtic to lodge an official complaint demanding Motherwell are thrown out the competition and 2nd place is handed to them* :erm: ;)

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Yes that would come as no surprise.:)

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Wayne Rooney's father arrested in police betting probe

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-15196761

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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...baby-dies.html

erm.. I wonder what Alan Sugar makes of this? what a clueless *******, "At the time I thought it was banter."... i'm lost for words. being drunk isn't an excuse, being egged on isn't an excuse, everyones got common sense but obviously this guy hasn't judging by him thinking what he said would be taken as "banter".

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Ivan Gazidis insists Arsenal do not need Champions League

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15208498.stm




Jamie Carragher calls for home-grown England manager


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15207114.stm

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I have to say I quite like The Sun naming and shaming internet trolls. Feel dirty...But it's kind of nice to see people who thought their vile abusive posts could be posted without consequence getting their comeuppance.

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I get the whole 'banter' thing in football, IMO that's part and parcel of the game. But it should always be about the team and the players as footballers, not as parents, sons etc. Anything which brings players' families or personal issues like that is completely unacceptable. It should never ever be personal. For example I love to watch Liverpool lose but Hillsborough is WAY off limits, you just don't go there.

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Looks like things could be getting problematic for UEFA. :D

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...tead-of-Celtic

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Look in my mind Sion broke the rules and should face the consequences as other teams have had to.

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PEPE REINA REVEALS ARSENAL BID

http://www.sportinglife.com/football...5.html&BID=165

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Arsenal and Liverpool plotting January swoop for Chelsea's Kalou

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...mon-Kalou.html




EXCLUSIVE: United reward Cleverley for breakthrough with new deal until 2015



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...deal-2015.html

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protests against Wenger planned.. should be interesting. the games live on skysports too.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news...cle809750.html

http://yfrog.com/kkpapsuj

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Russian side Anzhi looking at various players as they would having a lot of money at their disposal...

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11670_7233566,00.html

city were reported to be looking at Van Persie.. will be interesting when the bidding war kicks off.

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I'm waiting for Anzhi to start bidding for supporters..i could use the money, and willing to strip off my shirt and get a beer belly :D

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Never even heard of this group. Certainly doesn't represent the majority of supporters, I was at the last home game and there were 'One Arsene Wenger' chants around the stadium. Despite the poor start these protestors represent a entitled minority.

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yup theres only 1 Arsene Wenger neglecting Arsenal FC

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You sound like what we have as supporters at Barnsley FC:D:D Want to join on a free transfer:erm:

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England under 21


Norway U21 1-2 England U21



http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15251376.stm

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London 2012: West Ham Olympic Stadium deal collapses.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15251893

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Logically couldn't Spurs and West Ham ground share, and I am sure if leyton orient were financially compensated by both sides they would be quite happy. Its like dealing with spoilt kids.

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l know l do not see any problem with ground sharing but many football fans are set against ground sharing with rivals

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The FA are begging for Rooney to get just a one match ban for intentionally kicking a player after they themselves banned him for two games for swearing. Unbelievable...

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What do you expect from a bunch of idiots who could not organise a p*ss up in a brewery

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Whether Rooney is banned for 1 game or 3 we should now use the remaining matched between now and the Euro's playing someone else in the Rooney roll. We all know what a good player Rooney can be but if he is suspended or injured we need to know that we have a good alternative for his position.

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l will second that but Capello has shown in the past his unwillingness to have a plan B or C.

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England don't have a good alternative though, he's by far their best player and thats why they are desperate for his ban to be kept to a minimum. They know if its any more than one game they will struggle to get out the group no matter what other countries are in it.

I just don't understand how they can expect a one game ban when they are giving out longer bans themselves for much more minor incidents.

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Better question is how can they expect a one game ban when its Uefa were talking about? Platini would love nothing more than to see England suffer whether it be club or International football. Get Ian Holloway to tell it how it is again!

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nice read ;)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...=feeds-newsxml

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...-Bergkamp.html

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A good read.

Not sure it could work here. The attitude of players here, would be, teaching the kids to go to the bookies, and get a few pints. The culture doesn't recognise hard work.

I could be getting old (actually, I know i am), but even when working as a youngster, it was the norm for the older guys to think about betting, booze and broads.

I don't think it has changed much.

Not a fan of Beckham, but was always impressed with his work ethic, and attitude.

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just another case of "what could have been"

anywho anyone care to take a trip down memory lane to remember Julio "The Beast" Baptista ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1UyU...embedded#at=57

:LOL:

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I am watching the Spain v Scotland game, and l have never watched so much crap in my life, what the hell are Scotland doing, they are allowing too much space for Spain and the defence is all over the place.

No wonder Scotland never achieve anything, they are poor and need to go back to the drawing board - very poor, l hope in the second half they can produce something, they are 2-0 down and have got to win, on this performance no chance.

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Can you please use the Euro Qualifying thread to discuss the Euro2012 games

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/88...ualifiers.html

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This game has proved that Premier League are petrified of Rooney and Man Utd, here is a ref that has the bottle to send a spolit little brat off for a blatant foul that could have broken the players leg, and the FA are begging for a soft sentence, this is why they don't have a brain.

IF it was a player from a lower division, they wouldn't bother.

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Liverpool have raised the possibility of breaking away from the shared rights deal for Television in the League:

That would be a big game changer...

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Yes most definitely as Real Madrid And Barcelona have shown in selling their rights.

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Manchester City will ban Carlos Tevez for a further four weeks



http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/...ce=twitterfeed

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Will?? Are they mind readers?

Yes it may happen but until MCFC announce it then it's "could" rather than "will"

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Government tells English football: change or be changed




http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15275218.stm

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West Ham midfielder David Bentley out for six months



http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/9613965.stm

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Never going to happen.
Liverpool want it because they know they're the weakest of the top sides at the moment, but have massive overseas support. They'd gain by far the most out of it as they're the team that needs the biggest investment to compete.

All the other teams will laugh and them and tell them to jog on.

We need more even revenue distribution, not less. Football could learn a lot from the revenue models in US sports.

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From Liverpool's point of view though, they are getting overtaken by teams like City and Chelsea who have buckets of cash. Meanwhile they are expected to share the revenue they bring in, due to their brand, from overseas rights to be shared equally amongst all the teams.

Manchester United and Liverpool are by far the biggest draws for that international audience after all yet they get the same amount as Blackpool did last season (not counting domestic tv income).

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And yet Man Utd are against idea of breaking up collective bargaining.

Liverpool's point of view is short sighted. They have the appeal they do because of the strength of the premier league. Break up collective bargaining and everyone except the top few clubs gets a lot weaker. The league gets a lot weaker, and eventually, the top teams get weaker because no one wants to watch a game where the winner is obvious. On their day anyone can beat anyone in the premier league. That's what gives it it's appeal.

That teams can do a Chelsea shows that we need greater financial control, not a free for all.

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Well, for now. If it was actually on the table as an option I would expect them to take it, as I would expect Arsenal to take it. The only 'top' teams that wouldn't stand to gain is Man City because it's in their interest to limit the income of the other top clubs.

Barcelona aren't weaker because of the position they exploit in La Liga and nor are Real Madrid. It's not as simple as that. The rights sell well in places like Asia because of the United/Liverpool brand, not so much because the Premier League is the most competitive league in Europe (it isn't). If it was a case of a exciting league where teams are more balanced then Germany or France would be raking in the case. It's a range of factors that help the EPL, brand is a big one.

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Ivan Gazidis is against the idea > http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...n-Gazidis.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...ue-rivals.html

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Manchester United's Sir Alex Ferguson has no plans to retire



http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15283737.stm

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Exclusive: David Conn meets Liverpool's owners, part one

Liverpool's owners battle boom and bust after Boston Red Sox stumble




http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/b...-red-sox-henry

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Manchester United's Javier Hernández signs new five-year contract



http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...nited-contract

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Paul Merson arrested on suspicion of drink-driving after M40 crash and while that he is alright a leopard never changes his spots and Paul Merson sdtill has not learnt any lessons from his past.




http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...-drink-driving

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Hopefully SKY sack him.

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Yes as l cannot stick him as he is a arrogant think he knows it all prat

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Wayne Rooney has been banned for 3 matches, well cant say he did not deserve it.

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Theres the scapegoat sorted then...

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Wonder if he is worth taking if he misses the first three games?! I guess there is certainly enough room in the squad, and it will probably be reduced on appeal.

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If England scrap through the first three games, then Rooney would be an advantage for knock out games, so I'd probably take him.

Then again, I'm not English, so maybe I'd leave him at home :D

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Daniel Sturridge can be given a chance now

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Yes a good call by you as l have always rated Daniel Sturridge.

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Then de-arrested after a blood test showed he was under the limit.

On most days I'd fail a roadside breathalyser because they're a load of crap.

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De-arrested while they wait for the test to be analysed, it takes a couple of weeks to come back so he will probably still be charged.

And the roadside breathalyser is sensitive enough to be used for airline pilots with a much lower tolerance than driving offences, the station procedure is a throwback to the crystal in a bag days and will probably be scrapped in the near future.

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It doesn't distinguish between alcohol types though.
With my diet I'll fail one most the time because I'm near constantly in ketosis, so my body is producing isopropyl alcohol which is then present in the breath. That gets detected as an alcohol by road side breathalysers even though it's completely unrelated to Ethanol.

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Former manager Roy Evans believes Liverpool are serious contenders to win the Premier League this season The Reds have not won a top-flight title for 21 years, with rivals Manchester United lifting the Premier League 12 times during that period.





http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15234874.stm

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Being a fellow Liverpool fan, I don't think we are ready for the title yet, we need another strong centre back then maybe.