Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I thought it was impossible to clone a modem on DOCSIS 3 or have i invented that up out of thin air?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

its not impossible. qas is taking the pee.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

So much pee, it's asking to be taken.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

no not really.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

VM are quite capable of overselling their bandwidth all on their lonesome imo. Either that or there are an awful lot of clones in operation countrywide.

@thenry With the sort of performance you must be getting have you considered upgrading to ADSL - anything less than a 5km line will probably be better than your cable.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

both.

Infinitys available but im in contract.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

VM said there is oversubscription in my area, just not enough for them to actually care...

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

1) You may be able to wrangle your way out if the service is really poor

2) VM as far as I recall don't charge full price to buy out a contract, so it may be cheaper than you think

3) A lot of people I know have to services (e.g. VM + BT or two BT lines)

4) Some providers (e.g. TalkTalk) have been cold calling me offering to pay off the remaining 17 months of my BT contract to move to them. I'm sure if you dig around a bit... Where there's a will there's a way eh?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Last time I heard it was £10 per service per month upto a maximum (was £120 but no idea atm)

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

i'll try

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I don't think they bother until the cables actually start to melt...

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Here's today's super happy fun graph. Things seem to be quite settled down after the upgrade now.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...10-05-2012.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I wouldnt be paying a cent to get out of your contract Henry, your BB just isnt fit for purpose at the moment, imo that should be enough for a get out of jail free card from Vm.

How long has it been oversubbed,

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

na i wont be giving them anything to end my contract early but theres upgrade work going on i think which makes me think those up top at VM will tell me to hold out. it wasnt bad last week prior to them pushing more down channels and changing both down and up channel(s).

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

In that case it's worth waiting to see if things improve

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Strange dip in latency yesterday about 4pm

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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I had that to on my TBM, you will probably find it increased at 2pm on Tuesday and then decreased back to normal at 4pm Wednesday.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...08-05-2012.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Yes - same here at those times.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

VM XXL 100 with draytec vigor 2850n
Has slightly less ping's than the SH it self
Just set it up
Spikes are from speed tests/ping tests/dns address tests
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...10-05-2012.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Mines looking a lot better than usual

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2014/10/9.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Mines still pretty much the same:
Big red line is when the kettle tripped the RCD :/

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...10-05-2012.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

good for you! good for all of you!! :fit:

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/05/37.png

My god, it's just so pwetty with all the red and yellow...and I hate virgin so much right now! Can't wait to see if these 'fixes' tomorrow do anything.

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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Any idea why there is so much packet loss without the latency spikes being much worse? Mine looks pretty similar to yours but I don't see anywhere near so much loss. Could it be because I downgraded to 10 on DOCSIS3? I don't really understand how it could.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Mine is looking OK same as before my 100mbit upgrade really. Well OKish on a Virgin connection...

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2013/07/9.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/05/35.png

OKish on a Virgin connection

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

what is honestly causing all of these latency spikes?

Using Qasi's graph as an example, what would cause it to be brilliant approaching 4pm, 6pm and 7:30 till around 9:30, and then rubbish the rest of the time even during the night? Something is seriously bodged with Virgin Media.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

That was two months ago. This is now.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/05/34.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Hahahahha!!

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Using the Network causes Slow down on mine, you can use it to see When you or others put Load on the network.
For me It shows When Leeches took all off my upload from Kubuntu 12.04 torrent on Ktorrent. 3am-10pm Currently up to 5.06GB uploaded in just 2 days,
[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]
or when and if the PS3 booted due to PS+ to Auto download with the 10am spike.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I'm seeing similar packet loss to parts of Edinburgh, it would appear to be something wrong on VM's core network as pinging the CMTS from off-net also shows abnormally high latency and packet loss.

P.S. For more fun graphs visit http://qasdfdsaq.com/ping

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I know what the TBB graph is for and what it does... of course using all of your upload especially through a torrent will affect latency and give you packet loss as a result. Someone else doing the same thing on your segment wouldn't produce the same results on your graph, it takes more than a few users to increase the average latency for other people. The fact is, the network shouldn't spike like it does on an almost constant basis in the range of 20-40ms or more for other people.

There is no reasonable explanation for the constant spikes in latency, even in the very early hours of the morning when the usage on the network is very low, which is why i was asking Qasi (well i wasn't directly but i thought he may answer) if he had any knowledgeable theories on why.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

local upstream SNR issues :rolleyes:

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Yuck. Different problem to what's causing the poop on my graphs then, Edinburgh seems to have been shot to hell since I left, odd since at the time it had only just fixed after 16 months of crawling.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

heh you remember when I said it wouldnt last long?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Yeah, but going from near-perfect to four times worse than I've ever seen on VM in the space of a month and a half is still pretty impressive, even for them.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Something that occurred to me later is that it just might be high noise causing CRC errors. Worth checking error counts and SNR in the modem stats imo. Most packet loss only shows in the graphs when there is obviously high congestion and I assume then it's timeouts. Unless I'm totally out on my understanding of how it works in which case I'd love to see an explanation of this.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

This is the graph to the CMTS itself, there's severe problems there:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/05/32.png

but the core node here isn't having issues:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/05/33.png

Points to link between core and CMTS, affecting everyone's modems in the area. As I say, problems in Edinburgh are probably unrelated to craigj2k12's.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Now overloaded 18 hours a day:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/05/28.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Anyone signed up to Sky's fibre service yet ?, I'd be interested to see how it fairs up using the TBB ping monitor.

I've taken the plunge and signed up yesterday (install date 28th), fingers crossed it's half decent :)

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

better than VM probably!

which package you taken pabs?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I don't know what it's called but it's up to 40Meg down and 2 up and is apparently unlimited. Which is ample for me, I only really want it for the improved latency while gaming as I'm on the end of the long line at the moment

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

it should do you nicely for gaming, if not tell them and therell try to correct it. did you consider the pro deal? you get more upload bandwidth as well as down

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I'm coping fine at the moment with just 796Kbps upload, can host full lobbies with 8 friends all using voice chat with no probs so 2 meg is ample for me.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

enjoy your new product mate :D do share a ping monitor and feel sorry for me :(

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Here is mine from the Cosham UBR 11

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...12-05-2012.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

...and me

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I will be setting a TBB ping monitor as soon as it's up and running, rest assured ;).

I know how you guys feel, been there and bought the frickin T shirt.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Oh lookey here, VM sgyl core has just gone tits up as well.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Look - save electrons - if you find some bit of the VM network that's actually working well post about that.

TIA.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Guildford core still looks fine, but that's 400 miles away :P

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Crawley :(

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Whole of east Scotland on VM is buggered by the looks of http://ukinternetreport.co.uk/cmts/

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

This is mine now. Actually not as bad as it has been.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...12-05-2012.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Using electrons to celebrate this:-

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...12-05-2012.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Now this!
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...14-05-2012.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Something weird is happening, although I am reliably informed that it will be rectified in good time.
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...15-05-2012.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

here is mine and virgin says their is nothing wrong

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...15-05-2012.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Now, there's a worry. Just to add to all the others :(

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Don't worry, we shall see soon if these terrible ping charts are isolated cases or symptoms of increasing issues across VM's network as a whole. Course by soon I mean two months :(

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Virgin have now said there is a fault on my section of cable, after they said there is nothing wrong with it, even after an engineer coming out and putting a powered box in-line of my inside cable to boost the power-levels after they where -6.0 to -6.5 across all channels

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

2 months time the 120mb upgrades start! should imagine theres far worse to come

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Strangely enough, after I did a dance when CS had assured me there was nothing wrong with my connection, someone higher up at VM has now admitted that there is a congestion problem in the Crawley area. Talk about stating the obvious! However, I too was given a "guesstimate" of two months for the upgrades to be implemented. In the interim I have half price BB for the next two months. As well meant and welcome gesture as that is, I would still rather have a connection that doesn't fall over all the time.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

WHAT!!!!!!!

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

My graph, 100meg, :uddingston


Attachment 23476

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Just saw this one over on TBB....

Luckily VM are well on top of the problem - the blokes been told to clear his internet history regularly and all will be well. See - we didn't need Liverpool support after all.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

:doh:

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...15-05-2012.png

First red outage was when the Virgin engineers were decimating the green boxes at the end of the road, second one was the switch from 4 -> 6 downstreams. Quite an obvious difference in jitter, will be interesting to see how that changes when they bond the upstream as well.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Yeah, well we'll have to wait till next January's results to see the effect of those.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I wonder if they've began upgrade work in my area?

I've never once seen the ping spikes as low as 40ms on a constant basis like this at any time during the day, granted its in the middle of the night, but i suppose wishful thinking might mean that they have upgraded something

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...16-05-2012.png

The other day i did swap myself over from CPC11 to CPC2 and latency was noticeably better, im hoping its just a coincidence that last night i've seen the most stable latency i've ever seen for nigh on two years.

BTW this is mostly an idle connection with only browsing taking place during the frame, no downloading of any kind.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Someone please assure me that this is not overutilisation:
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...16-05-2012.png
And in return I will swear quietly under my breath.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Best day I've seen in months. Not sure what the short outage was around 8:30am - nothing in the modem log.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...16-05-2012.png

Maybe they've actually started to fix it up but as it's only been dross for 6 months or so that seems a bit too quick - maybe the DDoS on TPB?

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Just gone onto 60mb with the shub. Tried setting up a broadband monitor but I'm getting 100% dropped packets.
The 'Respond to Ping on WAN Port' is ticked on the DMZ Host page on the shub.

Any ideas why it's not working?

cheers

J

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I only got it this good after a shed load of complaints and threats of OfCom / CEO office. Before it was unusable in the evenings and constantly disconnected.

Using SHUB in 144mbps mode, otherwise it will constantly reboot and crash. Get max 75mbps depending on time of day via wireless with laptop in the same room.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...17-05-2012.png

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http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...16-05-2012.png

Was all peachy till BT cocked up some maintenance work and caused a half hour outage. Still, could be worse...

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]Gee thanks qas, I feel so much better now :)

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Even VM aint that bad in the Burgh right now, now that they've fixed the core:
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...16-05-2012.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I've seen reports that it won't work if you are using port forwarding.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...17-05-2012.png :cool:

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

It's a funny old thing the Superhub, when I was using it (over 12 months ago now) for port forwarding it would only forward 1 port I think at a time, so I ended up using the DMZ in order to achieve an open NAT on one of my consoles.

I'm also reasonably :erm: sure that when the DMZ was being used, it then would'nt respond to the pings from the TBB ping monitor.

I always used to do a full reboot after any changes just to make sure.

In all fairness my current Sky router behaves in much the same way.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I think what you recall is that the thing would reboot itself after each and every addition or removal from the forwarding table (or maybe it was fixing an IP to a MAC).

As I have a number of devices I access remotely that was a PITA. What was an even bigger PITA was that on one occasion it managed to completely corrupt or lose either the forwarding or fixed IP table - on reflection while typing I think it was the fixed IPs as I remember going round everything taking them off DHCP and allocating fixed IPs.

Whatever it was the many bugs in the firmware and the fact it simply couldn't reliably do a TrueImage backup over WiFi (set to 300 it would hang inside a couple of minutes, 145 - maybe it would complete eventually or maybe not) made me eventually ask for a VMNG300 from the CEO office.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/05/25.png

Look ma, no interleaving!

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Assuming default is on how did you get it turned off?

In my ADSL days on a line that could just manage 8Mbps I found that overall performance was considerably better with interleaving on and as I'm not into gaming I'd just leave it to whatever the default is myself.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/05/12.png

Just got 4 new Downstream Channels :o

Locked QAM256 47 55616000 Kbits/sec 315000000 Hz -1.0 dBmV 38.3 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 45 55616000 Kbits/sec 299000000 Hz -0.6 dBmV 38.6 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 46 55616000 Kbits/sec 307000000 Hz -1.1 dBmV 38.6 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 48 55616000 Kbits/sec 323000000 Hz -1.5 dBmV 38.2 dB Hybrid
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown
Upstream Channels
Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Max Raw Bit Rate Frequency Power
Locked ATDMA 8 20480 Kbits/sec 35800000 Hz 49.0 dBmV

Is my upstream power level too high?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

no its fine

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Online Status
-------------
Physical Connection System Uptime: 3:51:4
IPv4 IPv6
-------------------
LAN Status Primary DNS: ******* Secondary DNS: ********
IP Address TX Packets RX Packets
192.168.1.1 807109 711021
---------------------------------------------
WAN 1 Status >> Drop PPPoA
Enable Line Name Mode Up Time
Yes ADSL TT PPPoA 1:58:37
IP GW IP TX Packets TX Rate(Bps) RX Packets RX Rate(Bps)
78.**.***.*** 78.**.***.* 40645 130 56319 126
----------------------------------------
WAN 2 Status
Enable Line Name Mode Up Time
Yes Ethernet VM Static IP 2:10:07
IP GW IP TX Packets TX Rate(Bps) RX Packets RX Rate(Bps)
94.175.119.188 94.175.119.1 158014 155 256988 156
---------------------------------------
WAN 3 Status
Enable Line Name Mode Up Time Signal
No USB --- 00:00:00 -
IP GW IP TX Packets TX Rate(Bps) RX Packets RX Rate(Bps)
--- --- 0 0 0 0
-------------------------------------
ADSL Information ( ADSL Firmware Version: 232201_A)
ATM Statistics TX Cells RX Cells TX CRC errs RX CRC errs
274034 5810770 0 1555
-------------------------------
ADSL Status
Mode |State |Up Speed |Down Speed |SNR Margin |Loop Att.
ADSL2+| SHOWTIME | 1020958 |13788289 |12 |29
(G.992.5)
Both having the vigor 2850n stimulative connection

Talk Talk currently in use for testing connection (first day connection & hope will be more stable the next days)
12mb on speed test at 2 pm
it use the default 2850n modem and not the suplied from isp for TT connected at adsl/vdsl wan
ping with TT are between 27-36 ms i guess not bad for adsl line 2.4 kilometers or miles far from exchange
(loot atternuator 29 = 2.1 m or km)
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...17-05-2012.png
Virgin media 100 connected at wan 2
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...17-05-2012.png
LETS SEE HOW both will be by tonight

PS
my lady is at youtube almost day using TT

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

:notopic: That 12dB noise margin is restricting your speed. Any idea why it isn't the default 6dB? That 29dB attenuation should see you at ~ 15Mbps or better.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Default is off, you cannot manually change it. It is automatically turned on by the DSLAM if it detects line instability and turned off again once BT's magic sauce determines your line is "stable enough" again. Neither you, your ISP, or even BT Openreach themselves can manually set a specific interleaving state. The only option is "auto".

The "auto"-magical secret sauce can be reset by an engineer but I left it "on" just as an experiment this time round. It took over 3 weeks to gradually turn interleaving off, and the line's still not back to full uncapped speeds but it's only one step away... That's the one thing that bugs me about FTTC, but I hear they're introducing a manual override option Soon(tm)

---------- Post added at 15:53 ---------- Previous post was at 15:48 ----------

Hiding your IP fail?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

i will not really use TT but only as back up
they gave me a special loyalty offer £ 21 to keep me with adsl after moved house(had fttc before) unlimited calls and unlimited internet and 36 countries international calls free plus free call id and voice mail call waiting etc
it seems i will downgrade from virgin at least with VM phone

BUT yes i would like to have the best of adsl
i think there is a 10 day training for adsl
i will give them a call in few days to reset my profile if will not go up

78.149.193.147
is just if i get disconnection the IP adress will change and will not be the same so i thought is not point
the TT monitor will go all red as well

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

There's no 10-day training period on anything. The whole concept has been an urban myth for years (there used to be some justification for it, not anymore).

The "best" you can get is a 3dB SNRM, not sure if TT allows you to customize or override yours but some other providers do, e.g. Be, which can increase your speed by a couple megabits over 6dB. You could probably hit 20mb if you're lucky.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

talktalk allow you to change your line profile quite considerably, just post on their support forums and they will sort it out within a couple of days ;)

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

do they turn off interleaving completely, or is it like sky

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

they turn is off completley, they have names for the profiles, its like 6FSNR for 6db SNR fastpath and 12ISNR for 12db SNR Interleaved etc etc ask for the 6FSNR profile

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I've had some similar strange effects with port forward too. I discovered that the ICMP got forwarded to the machine also. Discovered this because when I pinged my IP from work I got a TTL of 119 rather than 55. (my machine TTL is 128. Also when I disconnected the machine that was the subject of the port forward I lost the WAN side echo.

I can't replicate it though.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

That's it - thanks. Had 5 port forwarding rules set up, knocked them off, rebooted and it's responding fine to a ping from t'internet.

Eldest will have a fit 'cos he runs a minecraft server:(

cheers

J

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

That's been around for ages and was reported in a firmware trial forum back in the day when I had a shub. There has been at least one new firmware since then (the WiFi driver bug) and now a new trial but I don't see that bug mentioned as one they'll fix. I've never seen any other router have a bug in this area either.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

To save your eldest's sanity there is a work round. Specify a particular protocol type rather than both. If you need both TCP and UDP than use two rules.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Or spend a fiver and get a real router.