Originally Posted by Jonnymeg (Post 35044802)

Just installing now!

Originally Posted by Thomas T (Post 35044838)

Can someone do me a little favour please :) (who has a 3gs / iPod touch 3rd gen).

Can you confirm that iBooks is in the update. If it is can you please tell me if the voice over can read out the book like it can do in the iPad?

This is what I'm after - but on the iPod / iPhone

Thanks for your help,

Dilli :)

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35044859)

Doesn't appear to be out yet...

Originally Posted by MadGamer (Post 35044863)

update installed. Havent worked out how to add folders to the home screen yet though. :)

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35044920)

Downloaded iBooks (it's now on the store). Can't seem to get VoiceOver working I am afraid to say :( Sorry Dilly.

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Opps! You need to switch on Voiceover. It's OS wide. Switched it on. Can now do as the demo shows. It's not very good though, An Audiobook would be better. Useful feature to navigate around the phone though. Changes the way you interface so pressing an icon will read it and you need to double tap to open it.

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35044873)

My phone is locked to 02 so can't upgrade as I need to jailbreak it :(

Originally Posted by Thomas T (Post 35044938)

That is excellent - thanks for doing that :tu: :)

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35045035)

No Problem. Like I said the reading is rubbish. Can't see why you would use that over audiobooks...

Originally Posted by nick1984 (Post 35045001)

you can unloack your iphone for free if it is on o2, it takes up to 14 days tho.

here is the link

https://www.o2.co.uk/apps/help/help?...locking%20Form

Originally Posted by nffc (Post 35045938)

for those wondering how to close apps, if there is no close button

double tap the home button, you then get a list at the bottom
hold one of the apps, and a - will appear, press the - and it will close (there will probably be loads, until they catch up on the fact home won't close them and update their apps)

Originally Posted by haydnwalker (Post 35046148)

Well... It finally happened, I've gotten rid of my 8gig 3G...replaced with a HTC Touch Pro 2 running WinMo 6.5 ... Sold 3G to someone at work...

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35046149)

WinMo :shocked: terrible OS.

Originally Posted by *sloman* (Post 35046155)

dont get iphone 4 look:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/s...d-left-handed/

Originally Posted by *sloman* (Post 35046155)

dont get iphone 4 look:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/s...d-left-handed/

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35046160)

It doesn't affect all the phones and also once there is a case or the iPhone bumper on the phone the issue is resolved :)

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35046160)

It doesn't affect all the phones and also once there is a case or the iPhone bumper on the phone the issue is resolved :)

Originally Posted by haydnwalker (Post 35046148)

Well... It finally happened, I've gotten rid of my 8gig 3G...replaced with a HTC Touch Pro 2 running WinMo 6.5 ... Sold 3G to someone at work...

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35046165)

still a design flaw

Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 35046179)

If my experience of WinMo is anything to go by, get used to having to reboot the phone.

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35046149)

WinMo :shocked: terrible OS.

Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 35046179)

If my experience of WinMo is anything to go by, get used to having to reboot the phone.

Originally Posted by haydnwalker (Post 35046203)

But it has the HTC Sense UI on it which is supposed to be good. I would have loved to be able to get the TP2 with Android on but it isn't to be.

I'm not a great fan of WinMo but it does the job and hopefully its more stable than 6.1

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Not really an issue for me...I can take a reboot every so often :)

Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 35046234)

My record was 15 times in one weekend.

Originally Posted by Thomas T (Post 35046063)

This one's for MadGamer really....

I recalled this thread earlier where you were asking for windows live messenger for your Nokia.

I was just wondering if you knew you could get it for iPhone / iPod touch now?

Anyway it's on the app store.

I know there are others (I use beejive myself) - but this is the 'proper' one for want of a better word.

Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 35046202)

Htc tytn 2

Originally Posted by punky (Post 35046190)

I think what helped this slip under the radar is that the iPhone had to be tested outside with a case on that disguised it as a 3GS. Although this should have been detected in a lab really.

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35046413)

im right handed and hold my phone when talking with my left hand

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35046236)

WHICH have just done a test of smartphones and HTC come bottom. Now my experience of my HD2 has been good but I have modded it and installed custom firmwares. I had an Omnia for nearly 18 months without issue on WinMo6.1 and later in its life 6.5

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35046413)

im right handed and hold my phone when talking with my left hand

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35046477)

Re. Three's pricing:

24 month contract only. Pushes the total cost of ownership up quite a bit...

I think the best deal is probably still with Tesco, despite the discrepancy in data limit (the main tariff table says 1GB, yet the Terms underneath say 500MB). Higher up front cost, but only £20pcm for 12 months.

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35046528)

Three's £15 a month, rolling contract, unlimited internet SIM only deal is good. How did you get your phone, unlocked or did you go for contract (and which one?).

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35046528)

They do that in London as well. Especially those people that camp overnight as well as providing blankets and such.

Originally Posted by vanman (Post 35047465)

Apple delays white iPhone 4 due to manufacturing "challenge"

http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/20...-challenge.ars

Originally Posted by Product 13 (Post 35048511)

It couldn't have anything to do with the left handed signal fault and the other iPhone 4 issues that are beginning to emerge, could it? :D

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35047302)

I personally think the iphone 4 deserves the class of epic fail lol

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35048496)

well on the face of it this is the launch of a prize lemon. Apple need to recall the phone address the issues and relaunch a working product imo. They wont though old Mr Jobs proved his stance with the buy a bumper or hold the phone differently release.

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35048593)

I hope for the use thats the case but the videos ive seen of it doing it wouldnt seem to point in that direction. However I know nothing about it so Apple must be telling the truth

Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 35048906)

The rumour I read today would suggest that Apple think the problem is that the natural attenuation caused by people holding the phone (which occurs with *all* phones) is made worse by the way the iOS baseband software handles frequency shifting.

Originally Posted by punky (Post 35049970)

lolz

http://www.viddler.com/explore/engad...s/1633/70.766/

Originally Posted by Apple

Dear iPhone 4 Users,

The iPhone 4 has been the most successful product launch in Apple’s history. It has been judged by reviewers around the world to be the best smartphone ever, and users have told us that they love it. So we were surprised when we read reports of reception problems, and we immediately began investigating them. Here is what we have learned.

To start with, gripping almost any mobile phone in certain ways will reduce its reception by 1 or more bars. This is true of iPhone 4, iPhone 3GS, as well as many Droid, Nokia and RIM phones. But some users have reported that iPhone 4 can drop 4 or 5 bars when tightly held in a way which covers the black strip in the lower left corner of the metal band. This is a far bigger drop than normal, and as a result some have accused the iPhone 4 of having a faulty antenna design.

At the same time, we continue to read articles and receive hundreds of emails from users saying that iPhone 4 reception is better than the iPhone 3GS. They are delighted. This matches our own experience and testing. What can explain all of this?

We have discovered the cause of this dramatic drop in bars, and it is both simple and surprising.

Upon investigation, we were stunned to find that the formula we use to calculate how many bars of signal strength to display is totally wrong. Our formula, in many instances, mistakenly displays 2 more bars than it should for a given signal strength. For example, we sometimes display 4 bars when we should be displaying as few as 2 bars. Users observing a drop of several bars when they grip their iPhone in a certain way are most likely in an area with very weak signal strength, but they don’t know it because we are erroneously displaying 4 or 5 bars. Their big drop in bars is because their high bars were never real in the first place.

To fix this, we are adopting AT&T’s recently recommended formula for calculating how many bars to display for a given signal strength. The real signal strength remains the same, but the iPhone’s bars will report it far more accurately, providing users a much better indication of the reception they will get in a given area. We are also making bars 1, 2 and 3 a bit taller so they will be easier to see.

We will issue a free software update within a few weeks that incorporates the corrected formula. Since this mistake has been present since the original iPhone, this software update will also be available for the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 3G.

We have gone back to our labs and retested everything, and the results are the same— the iPhone 4’s wireless performance is the best we have ever shipped. For the vast majority of users who have not been troubled by this issue, this software update will only make your bars more accurate. For those who have had concerns, we apologize for any anxiety we may have caused.

As a reminder, if you are not fully satisfied, you can return your undamaged iPhone to any Apple Retail Store or the online Apple Store within 30 days of purchase for a full refund.

We hope you love the iPhone 4 as much as we do.

Thank you for your patience and support.

Apple

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35056334)

I can't see Apple doing a full recall... even though it probably is what they should do.

If they give in, it'll just be free Bumpers, at best, IMO...

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35056534)

Problem is there will be no unity. If every early adopter took the iphone 4 back then they would do something about it but I am sure loads of those ( even those who have this issue) would not want to be without their beloved gadget

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35056789)

I don't have the problem though. I wouldn't mind swapping for one without the fault but not if it required me to be without it for a few days. I need the phone so.

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35056870)

I bought a sim free emergancy phone from e2save. Ok you have to buy £10 credit but the phone cost me 99p £10 credit but got £7 cashbashback through topcashback. So you could have a phone and get your new Apple without a design flaw ( spose you could call it grade B or a Second hehehehehehehe)