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From what I heard, only Ronaldo was any good, and he can't pass the ball to himself and was on the bench!

Mind you, earlier on Arsenal were rubbish till van Persie came on - maybe these rape allegations spur them on. He ought to be first choice at the moment, really.

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I heard today that Ronaldo would not be considered due to the rape allegation plus the recent passing away of his father, but hey presto, there he is on the bench, yes he did make a difference when he came on.

Nistelrooy annoys me by wanting the ball on a plate all the time, hence the fact being thrown around now that all his goals for united have been inside the box.
Rooney's display was mediocre, but the lad cannot do it on his own.
No single person on the pitch was to blame, it was just a very bad team performance.

Arsenal seem to be picking up a bit since the return of Henry.
Van Persie is a good player with good individual skills, plus he has decent players around him which helps.

I am supposed to be going to OT on the 22nd of Nov to watch the Villareal game, at the moment, I am thinking of returning my tickets.

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Still a lot of crocks about - Ljungberg's been injured again (only cramp apparently) and Sol and Henry have each been injured twice already. The results are tending to flatter the team slightly too, except the West Brom debacle.

Personally, I hope we can keep things tighter at the back with Sol back and give van P a run up front. We tend to come good after new year, but I sense things'll be done and dusted by then. Still, the Carling Cup looks good, home to Reading next round.

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You need to keep an eye on Dave Kitson in that game ;)

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Seems like Alex the cry baby Ferguson is Loseing his Touch. :p: me thinks he's going to have Another sulk. :D

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Is he the ginger one who was complaining about something or other the other day? I'd be more worried about Sidwell, if he's fit - saw him for Arsenal's youth team a few years ago and he nearly made it at Highbury.

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What a disasterous peformance - our only hope for silverware this year has to be the cups.

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Doesn’t look good.

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I don't think you're eligible to enter the LDV Vans Trophy, are you?

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Why would we enter that? AFAIK it's only for non-Premiership teams.

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Non Premiership or Championship teams. :)

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ownage...
forest win
Derby lose
Man U lose.

:woot: very happy tonight.

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Enjoy it while it lasts ;)

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Well the Swans didn't do too badly :D

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I understand the rivalry with derby, but how long have man u been direct rivals of forest ? My geography isn't what it used to be.

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Yep, thats him, formerly at CUFC
He usually gets the rise taken out of him because he is ginger haired

Link :D

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They're like Marmite, you either love them (ie support them) or hate them (don't support them)- most Forest fans hate united probably because they are united, I'd say probably the same applies for fans of most other sides...

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Then you could have referred to other clubs, because you don't support them either, but you didn't.

That's like saying you hate southampton because they are southampton, that statement has no logic at all.

The hatred fans of other clubs towards man u has snowballed, because of the long term success they had for a decade. If chelsea do this, and there's no reason why they can't, everyone will hate them too. The hatred is called "the bandwagon".

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Arsenal (and, indeed, Spurs) fans have hated them for years, successful or not. Yet again London leads the way.

:D

League One, League Two and selected Conference sides. So technically not, but in a couple of years, who knows? :disturbd:

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Well I never !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did I read this right :D

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?h...orts_home_page

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saw him play a few times Forlan has loads of skill and is a very good player he just wasn't suited to the English game.. with more time on the ball on Spain he is showing what he can really do

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This prompts me to do something pointless and add up the success of top flight clubs in the main competitions over the last five years (Premiership, FA Cup, League Cup, UEFA Cup, Champions League). Seasons 2000/2001, 2001/2, 2002/3, 2003/4, 2004/5.

In alphabetical order:

Arsenal - 2xPremiership, 3xFA Cup
Chelsea - 1xPremiership, 1xLeague Cup
Liverpool - 2xLeague Cup, 1xFA Cup, 1xUEFA Cup, 1xChamps League
Manchester Utd - 2xPremiership, 1xFA Cup
Middlesbrough - 1xLeague Cup
Blackburn - 1xLeague Cup

So the long-term success is rather in the past, Liverpool and Arsenal have each won 5 trophies in the last five seasons, so presumably everyone should hate them now?

He'd heard it from the Sun, thus making it a circular story and worthless. We'll have Torres, please.

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The last time I checked a decade was not five years. Now post some updated info for a decade.
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And just to add..........I never said the last decade, I said FOR a decade.

As in 1993-2003 now post the success during that period, and let's compare shall we :naughty:

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Thanks for proving my point, which was that Man U are *still* hated even after five years of not being the top dog or anything like it, which suggests that the hatred for them is not entirely derived from their success on the pitch, and possibly looking elsewhere, perhaps at the manager or captain's attitudes.

Liverpool aren't still despised for being top dog in the 80s, after all, so if you change your manager, your team and have ten years of being rubbish, the hatred might subside into a mere slight dislike. Start now, is my advice, there's no time like the present.

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Agreed !!!!!!!!
So, it makes you wonder why Arsenal want him, if the story is true that is.

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Five years is nothing in terms of it still being fresh in the memory of bitter football fans such as yourself. And having lived in the east end for more than a year, I can say that arsenal are hated with a passion. Why.....because of their success, and the fact that arsenal fans enjoy to ram it down the throats of rival supporters.

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This report is very amusing


The Times

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Do you think he's hinting at a possible fetish of Wenger's? I mean, most of us have heard the story about which way he 'swings' but accusing him of getting off on 'watching' people?? Whatever next?? :D

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This guy has to be a Chelsea fan.....


The Independent

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Man U are hated because they are Man U, live with it :)

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Substitute the second 'Man U' from that with "the most successful British club in the last 15 years" and you'll have a point.

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George Best isn't he only famous footballer in hospital at the moment

probably the greatest ever player has been in hospital for the past few years.. nice article on him below.. shame the book isn't in English

http://www.uefa.com/magazine/news/Ki...Id=357946.html

i've got the 6-3 match on DVD and the whole team were just on a different planet to us that day

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They say the truth hurts, it's a shame it never went out first.

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Yep ! Another half witted reply, from someone who has been on the "we hate man u" bandwagon for so long, they don't know why.

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Possibly it'll have to go out post-watershed, knowing Keane's usual manner of speech. According to the grauniad, he wasn't impressed with:

. So only half the United team are rubbish according to the captain, then. That's positive news.

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_...605711,00.html

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i read that he said the following players weren't good enough for the club in general not sure their performances in that match


Rio hasn't performed all season and doesn't deserve to get paid this week.. neither does Van Der Sar

O'Shea had a great first season at the club.. anyone one remember all those nutmegs when he made runs from left back ? He's never reached that level again..

never rated Richardson..

Smith has so much passion and effort it puts the rest of the squad to shame.. he's still learning to be a midfielder though.. couldn't maintain his levels on Sat though... unlike alot of the team if he loses the ball he'll work to get it back

Miller has never really been given a chance to show what he can do

add in Scholes and Giggs being past it and not able to reach the hieghts they could.. both have done nothing in the past 2 years.. a season lasts for 38 games and being good in one or two isn't enough at this level.. and you can see why we are in trouble.. still never replaced Beckham either and our play is now so narrow and slow it's too easy for other teams to break up

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Miller didn't play at Boro, though, so it seems a bit unfair to slag him off, if that's what happened. His last contribution in a United shirt was scoring against Barnet, surely? Perhaps it's attitude in training or not calling Keane 'sir' often enough, or failing to serve his tea at the right temperature. I guess we'll Never Know (until some public spirited MUTV employee puts it on the net).

Bet you still beat us though!

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you can see what Keane is talking about by looking at Jermaine Pennant.. a man who has already been to prison for drink driving.. after Birmingham lost on Sat the team were called in on Sunday for extra training..

what did he do on sat night then.. did he think about his performance.. no.. he just went out and got drunk.. so drunk that he couldn't even train on Sunday.. none of these players care at all.. apart from Keane, Lampard and Gerrard there are very few players who actually about about whether they play well or not

the same thing is happening at United and the team is in decline.. Scholes, Keane, Giggs and Beckham need to be replaced and i don't think we have the money to do it.. plus who would want to to United looking at how we play and perform at the moment

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TBH, I think the same thing is common at most clubs, look at Forest's players making the nationals with their drinking extravaganza last season, and if rumours are to be believed, the same thing exists this season too.

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Keane used to be a prominent member of the Old Trafford drinking troupe.

Sharpey's book has a few tales about him and Keane on the booze.

Don't think Keane drinks that much these days though.

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And did Arsenal get any credit for giving him a second chance, which he blew, before shipping him out? Nope, the little sod went running to the tabloids and we got the 'Englishmen are frozen out at Arsenal' bollox, as usual. And the 'Arsene doesn't want a drink with me' bleating too from Ferguson (well, no one in their right mind would, plus alcohol is banned in the Highbury player's bar so it would be rather hypocritical for the manager to go tanking up after the game).

Alcohol problems are way better than they were in football - the game now is such that drunkards don't often get to the top and if they want to stay there they have to come off the booze before it affects their game. Money problems, however, are a different matter. Wage cap now, please, before it eats football.

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It would have to be worldwide or the UK game will end up like a local sunday league.

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having read some of the stories about Pennant i think he is lucky he didn't get kicked out of arsenal sooner.. trouble is he's still got a club and any problems there and his agent will get him into another top club

a wage cap would be a great idea but where would the surplus of money go ? plus i can't see real madrid and barca sticking to it.. the money would end up being paid in bonuses and stuff

at United it used to be we paid less because you had to want to play for us

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There is a good article in the latest FourFourTwo - 7 Steps to save Football.

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If that's not true, Wenger has a funny way of showing it. Spurs have 7 english players, in their regular first team, 5 of whom are England first teamers. The other two are looking good for the future. One of the whopping two English regular first teamers you do have, one is from Spurs, through their youth team

Won't make a difference. They'll just find another way of putting it through the books. Instead of £99k/week, they'll just put it through as 3 different jobs at £33k/week or something. Or do what Beckham wants - get royalties of shirt sales, etc.

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When people talk about wage bills i don't think they mean cap what an individual player earns but cap the total wage bill - e.g no more than 60% of a clubs turnover can be wages.

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http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...201126,00.html

Handbags at dawn......

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Ahh, I see...

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No he hasn't threatened legal action. Don't read Sky's report, read or listen to the original, which is on the radio now in fact. He called Mourinho disrespectful, which is perfectly fair comment, so why Sky want to invent a different quote I don't know. Tabloid journalists, eh?

The point isn't how many Englishmen are in the starting line up (because the name of the game is winning, and having a line up based on nationality rather than skill isn't guaranteed to work, quite the opposite in recent years), it's whether an Englishman coming through the ranks at Arsenal will be more likely to succeed than at a lesser club like Spurs. He's got competition from the entire world, and only the best will make it, so it's not a total surprise most of them go on somewhere else. It's often a measure of whether letting them go was a bad idea to see how they're getting on.

As for Pennant, getting done for drink driving twice isn't going to help get you in anyone's first team, let alone one of the Europe's top clubs, so he really should shut up. OK, it seems to help you get into Birmingham's team, but since they now have three Englishmen who didn't make it at Arsenal and are currently second-bottom in the league, that rather supports Wenger's decision to show them the door. The most successful ex-Arsenal youth is probably Andy Cole, and that was a while back when most Arsenal players were British.

In modern football, a club's home-grown players are just as likely to come from Sweden as Stockport. Doesn't mean they are any less worthy of the shirt, as long as the put the performances in. I can point to a few first-teamers who grew up through the youths at certain clubs who don't pull their weight. Evidently, so can Roy Keane (a foreign player bought in ready made, of course).

Glad you're proud of Big Sol. We'll have Ledley King when he grows up and fancies winning some trophies for a change.

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Even more so these days with the FA restrictions on how far away a youth player can live from a club i.e you can only sign with a club when your under 16 if you live less than 2 hours away. These restrictions don't apply to foreign players.

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You will have to wait a while, he is about to extend his current contract (due to expire in 2008). Judging by our performance last saturday, versus yours, not a bad descision.

Proud of Sol? Not really. His best is behind him now, and you can tell he is Arsenal through and through now, by the way he elbows 2 Spurs players in the face, causing one to have an open gash and bloodstained shirt, and the fact that he got away with it. He used to have a decent disiplinary at Spurs (no red cards), he goes to Arsenal, and gets no less than 3 in 2 years. How many red cards have Arsenal got now under Wenger? 55-60 odd?

No, the point is English teams need decent youth academies like West Ham (and Spurs to a lesser degree). Build up our own British talent, let them flourish, and then flog them elsewhere at a big profit. That's how clubs, including the national team, and the league benefit. Not just by throwing money at a load of foreigners.

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personally the influx of foreigners has never appealled to me and has distanced the clubs from the fans that are turning up.. I still can't understand how the judge in the Bosman case got rid of the 3+2 rule when that wasn't what the case was about.. as has been stated the situatio is now so bad that even at youth level the teams are full of foreigners

personally i'd like all under 18 side to be made up of local players.. it helps the the clubs but money back into the local community.. it helps the national game and team develop and it's better for the players themselves as well..

the problem is in some areas.. the boarders between England and Scotland and France and Spain, Basque region etc signing someone from across the border is still signing a local

you only have to look at the team sheets in the Championship and even league one to see how bad the foreign influx has got and this isn't just a problem with the English league either

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Well, he's been there a few years and more than a few games. Being a Spurs fan, you'll be used to changing managers rather more often than us. Also, you won't be used to having European games. Or cup runs, for that matter. The number of red cards is best seen in context (unmentioned by the journos when it gets dragged up again) when you're looking at a decade of football and over 500 games in charge. Check the Fair Play league for the last two seasons some time.
http://www.thefa.com/Features/Englis...l_FairPlay.htm

His best has come in an Arsenal shirt, of course, where he got his hands on some meaningful silverware. If we going to have a tit-for-tat of derby warfare, I see your Sol elbow and raise you any number of incidents of spiteful Teddy Sheringscum needling violence plus Tim Sherwood kicking Vieira up the groin a few years ago, which was followed by spurs scoring a goal after we kicked the ball out so he could get treated. You've had some right thugs in lillywhite lately, so the injured amour propre doesn't really wash.

These rules are pretty silly, because they're so easy to circumvent for big clubs - just move the whole family over. The whole concept of a 'local' player is a bit daft in itself anyway - is Fabrice Muamba (arrived 1999 as an asylum seeker from the Congo, signed for Arsenal as a 16 year old) more or less 'local' than Sol Campbell (from Newham), who came through the youth system at another club and didn't sign until he was 26? There are plenty of other examples.

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One in the eye for Ferdinand maybe ?
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About man u been hated I have my own reason's I am just unsure if its the same as most other's. People tend to see them as a glory club with fans supporting them because of their glory, man u seem to have more fans outside manchester then in manchester with most manchester football fans supporting manchester city. I also hate them because they take so much tv coverage up, itv love them, and they take too many of sky's slots also.

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In my opinion Ferdinand should never captain United again after what he has done with the contract talks. He wasnt showing any loyalty to a club that stood by him during the time he was banned so he shouldnt be rewarded with the captaincy. His recent performances also show why he shouldnt be captain aswell :rolleyes:

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I am glad I do not fall into any of the above categories. :rolleyes: apart from being outside Manchester that is.

I have been a fan of united since 1963.

I do admit that there are glory hunters fan wise, I think I could be right in saying Chelsea's gates have risen.
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I couldn't agree more :tu:

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Name me a team that doesn't have glory hunters ? In the last 10 years I have seen blackburn and arsenal shirts on the streets of manchester. And a few years before that, Leeds shirts.

Propoganda spread by our rivals Man City, Bolton, Liverpool etc etc. There have been several polls on the manchester radio station Piccadilly, stating everytime that man u fans outnumber city by 2 to 1.

This is called supply and demand, if you were a television executive wouldn't you want to have as large an audience as possible ?

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well said Keane half current Utd players need reality check they think they are better players than what they are!!!

O'Shea is an average defender, who needs to put more work in every match, take Heinze as an example John!

Rio is Rio ive never seen him play route one defending, when 9/10 it calls for it to be lobbed up field.

Fletcher don't even get me started on him, how does he get onto Utd team? would he even get on any other premiership squad, i somehow don't think so. hes a championship player at best! get him out Fergie!

We are missing key players yes, thats true, but its no excuse, the fact of the matter is fergie hasn't bought right in last few windows we need to be bringing in not only first teamers but squad players too to help us when we are missing players.

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well i've got to say I agree with alot of what Keano says..

despite what the papers say Van Der Sar punches the ball too many times.. do they not realise that if the ball is in your hands no one can touch it but if you punch it it can go in the back of the net.. he's looked shakey a few times

O'Shea 0 has looked rubbish every since his first season when he could do no wrong.. can't believe he was offered a new contract

Fletcher - does well in the odd game then goes missing but never been given a clear defined role for us yet

Ferdinand - never really delivered on his price tag or weekly wages.. happy to get the money and not bothered about putting the effort in

Richardson - not a defender anyway and not great as a winger. might look good at West Brom but not Man U class

Smith- the only one i don't agree with.. he's been played out of position all season but his levels of commitment and passion but the rest of the team to shame.. if he could learn the Keane roll will do a job for us

add in

Scholes - no confidence and showing poor form for the past 2 years

Giggs - plays well in one game every 3 years.. if that

Ronaldo - to greedy and wants to dive all the time ( abit of a Forlan player here.. but him in Spain and will be brilliant each week ) still not really a replacement for Beckham

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Hi mate lol not sure i agree with some of what you say haha,

Giggs - has been a legend for Utd his level of commitment and passion is always their to see, even in his later years he stills tracks back puts the tackles in and delivers for us.

Van Der Sar - may look shakey sometimes but how many points has he already saved us from loosin this season alone so far!

rest i agree with, scholes is off the pace but then who else can you play?? i go back to my point that we lack depth in midfield. need alot of signings their. and possibly let some people go. Fletcher and Richardson need to shape up or be shipped out.

Ronaldo is greedy and dives alot but! he is only 20 and has alot of time to develop and more importantly mature.

question on i think most Utd fans lips are who can we bring in for midfield, and not just one signing we need 2/3 maybe 4!!!! you just have to goto man utd website and look at the squad for tonight and look at midfield section and see how thin we are.

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well we'll agree to differ on Giggs.. i've seen them quite a few times over the past few seasons and giggs my look ok on some of the TV highlights but during a game he doesn't he goes out of it for long periods and relies on past glories.. he great at running very quickly into a player from the other team but not at going past them and crossing the ball.. which is what a winger should do ( would like to Ronaldo do more of that as well)

Giggs hasn't had a great season since 99.. a season goes on for 40 games or more and playing well in a few of them isn't good enough at least not for United

i've said a few times we need to spend about 60-80m on a new midfield..

we need to buy Ballack ( get him in January and not in the summer when his contract expires), he can replae Keane.. we need to get Schneider from Ajax who can play on both wings .. plus add in anyone from Mescarano ( not spelt that right but he plays in Argentina.. very similar to Keane and only 20 ) Ferdandes from Benfica.. plys try bring in Eagles, Jones or someone from the youth ranks.. can they really be any worse than what we have at the moment.. could drop Rio and give Pique a few games at centre half.. he's only 18 and does brilliant for the reservers.. plus we have Rossi who can play in the Scholes type role or as a striker

i've heard all the comments from Fergie and the team before about bouncing back from bad performances and not see it so far and frankly i don't think some of the team are capable of performing any better any more.. remember we started pre season training early so we could come out of the blocks flying.. thank God for that eh or we could be in a worse state

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yeah, totally, ive always said that we need to rebuild the midfield and one signing a season isnt good enough; where would you include park/ronaldo in new midfield, on their day they are excellent players. park especially has been great for us. Ballack do you not think is more of scholes role gets close to box for late goals? i ve never really seen him play a deep deep role. Id buy in someone else for that role, i ve heard gattusos' name knocked around but i don't think hes good enough. I really believe we missed out big time on Essien! he is a powerhouse.

i just don't see were a new midfield is gonna come from. and were Utd is gonna get money for it? ? ?

i don't worry as much about defence or attack we have options at each end in rossi/rvn/ole/ebanks/saha until we get rid lol (still think we should have signed owen) etc. . and in defence we have baardsley/brown/pique coming through to name a few.

look at were we need to buy;

Ronaldo Ballack?? ?????? Park?

thats my midfield four only one of them i would confirm as starter and rest who would go in?

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The alarm bells are sounding and the mancs are waking up.

Who'e really to blame,the players or the guy who buys and selects them!

Giggs,Scholes and Keane were your driving force but no decent players have been brought in to replace them.

Ferguson could be out by next year if there are more EASY 4-1 results.
But who'll come in.....Erikkson!!

Biggest club in the universe?
Not according to Cantona,he said it was Sardinboata on planet GaGa.

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As long as he didn't say scouse then he's still King Eric :D

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well if it was up to me i'd play a midfield and we had champ manager can sign who we want i'd play

Schneijer - Left winger al la Giggs 99 when he was good

Ballack - as a box to box player who can drift into the box and get goals similar to Gerrard

Mescarana - as the Keano type player to hold up and ball and go box to box

Ronaldo - to play as a proper right winger

with Rooney play in the hole behind Ruud you don't really need a new Scholes although Ballack can fit into that role

we have some money from Glazer but i don't think it is enough.. plus if i was any of those players why would you go to Man U when Barca, Real, AC and Inter were after you as well

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thats problem in past few years we have missed out on robben/ronaldinho/essien/cicinho recently/duff etc to what is now bigger more attractive teams!

i am lookin forward to January but utd cannot muck about in transfer market they must get in get the players and get out. Sometimes it seems they try to haggle way to much with clubs.

I dont think Fergie is that much to blame, although more and more i think a fresh approach is needed. maybe with fergie retiring or movin up in the club. i am gonna come out with this but i really want to see Keano take over! look at what stuart pearce is doing at Man City he is fantastic and Keane would be just the same if not better; he has done or is finishin up his coaching badges and would in my mind be the only replacement for fergie, i dif wouldnt go foreign!

what about Graveson for midfield! beside ballack? then ronaldo and park on wings; i have never really seen much of snjeider so can;t comment.

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from what i've seen of Park so far i don't think he should be in the team.. might be great at selling shirts in Asia but he's not done much else so far..

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hes been one of the only ones that has working 110%, he came on against lille and was only one who sparked up the game and against boro 3-0 down he was only one trying and showing any determination!

again what you think bout Graveson???

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I see the tse fly has returned :rolleyes:

Nice to see you again, hardly heard a peep from you since the crystal palace and fulham games. I'm surprised you didn't login straight after the west ham game. But it's best not to be too premature huh, best to wait until after the following european game just to be safe. :naughty:

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You guys need David Friio :LOL:

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not really a fan of graverson.. think he's lucky to be at Madrid.. same with Gattuso at AC Milan..

don't think either of them are United quality

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I like Gravesen. You only have to look at everton after he left.

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yeah exactly he was their makelele ! plus he can bomb forward n get goals a midfield of him and ballack would be very strong!!

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pedantic

Seeing as i posted after the Fulham game saying we were crap and after the Palace game saying they deserved it,
what are you going on about?

If i wanted to lower myself to posting mundane drivel like you i would have been straight on after the Boro game! :)

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Re-read my post, I said we hardly heard a peep which is a fact. And yet as soon as you win in europe you feel the need to post about man u yet again. And you acuse me of drivel :rolleyes:

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Don't worry about it lippy, you're in good company. Quite a few Arsenal supporters only post after their team have won, and when they lose......you can hear the tumbleweed all the way from North London, so you won't feel alone ;)

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Found out our game abandoned when losing :)

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Hardly heard a peep!
Sorry,i'll make sure i post more,
....just for you!
I'll also keep an eye out for your posts after Man U a bad game,see what excuses you come up with.

Although i did ask you what your question was the other night, but it seemed like you were stuck for words!

My post today was nothing to do with our win,i didn't even mention it.
More to do with Keane's comments and Ferguson losing his marbles.


Not worried about the company Russ,
prefer people who know a little about football! :)

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You'll find us here - although we don't come out with excuses - you sound like you're stuck in the 90s when scouse fans were so desperate for United to become unstuck that whenever we lost, we'd have little gems such as "this is the begining of the end" etc etc....

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You still won't win the replay :) 8)

How's Williams doing?

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The other night ? That was over a week ago, time really does fly when you talk nonsense. I never give excuses, I tell it as it is. I never said your post was anything to do with your win, you just came on ranting as per usual about man u as per usual. And I never get stuck for words, as you shall find out. I merely told you to go to bed and get ready for school the next day, either you are a juvenile, or have a child like mind as all you do is express opinions about a team you hate. Try and post constructively or don't bother.

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HT Lille 1 Man Utd 0 :mad:


Actually Lille are not a bad footballing side, but united's performance so far is mediocre with a lot of 1st team regulars missing, maybe it is the kick up the backside Ferguson needs to do something about it come January.

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I don't have sky or cable :( but have found it on video stream :naughty:

Pics a bit choppy though, probably watch it later for a decent piccy lol.

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Looks like Keano was right :(

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I think we've known that long before keane said it though.

5 minutes after the final whistle and no lippy, he must be slacking :rolleyes:

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I've been saying it for ages. Nice of you to catch up. As for lippy, he's probably finding it hard to see the keyboard through the tears of laughter. Still, Chelsea next. Wouldn't have thought both teams would be coming out with something to prove at Old Trafford next weekend. Still, that's football.

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Continuing in that form, united won't qualify

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...es/default.stm

Group D

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Very true, but then again I'd rather hear it from within Old Trafford and not a bitter Highbury-ite with a penchant for good ol' "Arsenal logic".

Yeah, probably! Just as we were with you and West Brom.

Yep, it'll be a good 'un.

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Catch up ? So because I never posted it before means you are way in front of me with that conclusion. :rolleyes:

Let's all bow to BBKing's vast knowledge of the game.

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No, please, don't encourage him......

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priceless :LOL:

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And there is more here about what Keane has said apparantly.....

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I thought the performance from saturday couldnt get much worse but come on! Lille arent a strong side, if they had of had two decent strikers they could have slotted 3/4 past that defence the number of times they cut rio n wes open only to sky their shots.. thank god they were rubbish at shooting or scoreline could have been worse. In utd teams of old if you went goal down you knew utd could come back to 2-1,3-1 etc. . i don't have same faith in this team, and if that was the team last night without seniors i am worried cause what happens when Keane/Neville and Scholes and Giggs all leave/retire. Richardson on one wing and greedy ronaldo on other???

Keanes right in what he thinks fergies tranfser dealings in last lot of seasons have been really shambolic!

Djemba-Djemba
Kleberson
Miller
Saha
Bellion

compared to who we could have had; Ronaldinho, Essien, Robben, Owen, Viera. . all these players at one time or another in previous seasons have been done deals that just collapse.

we should never have let go of Veron! maybe some Man U fans won't agree with me, but he won a league with us and his passing and vision was just as good as Beckhams. he could easily be playin scholes role at moment . .

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Really!

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I just come on ranting as per usual?
I think you'll find my posts have been few and far between, and in response to a previous post!

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Taken from 3 posts.
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So you don't post what you think, not exactly telling it as it is! :rolleyes:

BB,good win for you! :)

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*high five* Yes, it does appear we've got one or two future superstars amongst the youth, unlike some clubs. Still a bit of an experience gap and the defence would have been troubled by a better side than Sparta, but you can't knock the joint best record in Europe and qualification with two games in hand, however poor the opposition.

As for Liverpool, do tell me what the point of Sissoko is, please? I didn't see him pass to a Liverpool player more than a couple of times in the match! ;)

Posting about Man Utd all the time; I think there are two Liverpool fans who post on here, a couple of Gooners, punky's a spurs fan (poor sod) and there are one or two lower leaguers. However, there are at least five Man U supporters who post regularly here (Russ D, pedantic, gazzae, akane1984, yesman off the top of my head and there are more), plus there's a crisis there. Given that very few of you would be interested in the minutiae of Arsenal's youth policy or Liverpool's new ground, the banter will tend to gravitate towards the Red Devils, as their current predicament is of interest to virtually anyone.

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Don't like some of the signings Benitez has made, i think Sissoko will be one of the better ones.
Sissoko seems unsure at times to what his role is, but he has also shown that he's a good ball winner and gets forward.
He'll settle in more when Benitez starts with the same team each week,
don't know when that will be though!

Want to swap VanPersie for Crouch? :angel: