Cable Forum - Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

Yes, OK, arguably right. But then what?

Suppose the US carry out a decapitation strike, kill the ‘Supreme Leader’, many if not all of the government - what do you think will happen? There is no opposition party (presumably pro-western) ready and organised to take over. Most likely the entire country will collapse into anarchy, unless the US is prepared to ‘put boots on the ground’ in large numbers and, basically take the country over and run it.

And that is easier said than done, although people may have no real love for the existing regime, they tend to resent a regime forced on them from outside. I do fear that this will make Vietnam and Iraq and Afghanistan look like a bad cold in terms of US and Iranian casualties.

Always, always have a clearly defined exit strategy, not just ‘oh this isn’t working and the polls are against us, so we are basically going to just pull out and leave chaos behind us, and naturally this wont foster a load of terrorist groups, all of which now have a hatred on the US - well it’ll be something for a future administration to deal with’.

For the US, removing the current regime in Iran is fairly easy, dealing with the consequences, isn’t. Unfortunately, I'm not convinced that the current US administration has the foresight to understand this.

thenry

09-01-2026 22:39

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Can the Arab nations step up, middle easterns ? Or will they battle in Mecca :rolleyes:

Hugh	09-01-2026 22:53

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Main clause = good question
Subordinate clause = wibble!

thenry

14-01-2026 17:29

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36204785)

modern society!

Football without fans is nothing. Unless it's COVID. And government action. Yet this goes amiss.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36205041)

Maccabi Tel Aviv FC fans will not be able to buy tickets to Aston Villa match in Birmingham
The Tel Aviv side won't sell their supporters any tickets - irrespective of whether the current ban on attendance is overturned or not.Maccabi Tel Aviv FC fans will not be able to buy tickets to Aston Villa match in Birmingham

https://news.sky.com/story/maccabi-t...match-13454141

looks like their thugs won't be meeting our thugs after all

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Home Secretary, Shabana Mahmood, has said she no longer has confidence in the chief of West Midlands Police, following the force's decision to ban Israeli football fans from attending a game in the UK.

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...#liveblog-body

https://news.sky.com/story/home-secr...n-ban-13493637

terrorise society :redcard:

Damien

14-01-2026 19:57

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They used a fictional match generated by an AI bot in their evidence. Little doubt he needs to go, given the other issues they had around the evidence provided to ban Maccabi fans.

thenry

16-01-2026 17:41

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The chief constable of West Midlands Police is retiring with immediate effect, the region's crime commissioner, Simon Foster, has confirmed.

It comes amid criticism of the force's decision to ban fans of Israeli team Maccabi Tel Aviv from a game against Aston Villa last year.

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...#liveblog-body

Good I guess. There were all sorts of accusations thrown around, Birmingham being of divisive social behaviours one of them.

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Exiled crown prince Reza Pahlavi is now speaking at a news conference in Washington.

He started out with a minute of silence "for the courageous Iranian people".

The message he conveys is that "the so-called Islamic Republic is not the government of Iran".

"This is no longer mere repression, this is foreign occupation wearing clerical robes."

He adds: "The Islamic Republic will fall - not if but when."

https://news.sky.com/story/iran-late...#liveblog-body

Horrible to see lives lost for this cause. It doesn't make it right. :no:

thenry

22-01-2026 15:15

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Trumps master plan...

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Who's said no?

A number of European countries have declined their invitations.

Norway, Sweden and France have all declined their invitations, while Italy's economy minister Giancarlo Giorgetti said joining a group led by one country's leader would violate Italy's constitution.

In the UK Foreign Secretary Yvette Cooper has said the government has concerns that Russia's Putin has been invited to join and the UK will not take part in the signing ceremony.

Neither Russia nor China have said if they will accept their invitations.

https://news.sky.com/story/what-is-t...he-un-13497460

Aww gangbang in Ukraine instead :rolleyes:

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Who is going to be on the Board of Peace?

Around 60 nations have been invited to join the Board of Peace, with some 35 agreeing to join so far, a senior Trump administration official said.

"We have a lot of great people that want to join," Mr Trump on Wednesday as he stood next to Egyptian President Abdel-Fattah el Sissi.

"It's going to be the most prestigious board ever formed."

Those signed up include Middle East allies such as Israel, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Jordan, Qatar and Egypt.

Others include NATO members Turkey and Hungary, whose leaders have good ties with Mr Trump; as well as Armenia and Azerbaijan, which reached a US-brokered peace agreement last year.

Morocco, Pakistan, Indonesia, Kosovo, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Paraguay, and Vietnam have also agreed to take part.

More controversially, Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko has accepted an invitation.

https://news.sky.com/story/what-is-t...he-un-13497460

Isn't it funny how the poorest of places are the richest. There's no excuses not to build a better future. :woot:

What are the unanswered invites waiting for?

Carth

22-01-2026 15:53

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What are the unanswered invites waiting for?

Would you sign any document Trump had his hand in before thoroughly dissecting it looking for the well hidden 'gotcha' :D

thenry

22-01-2026 16:55

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thenry

24-01-2026 14:28

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A senior Iranian official has warned that the country will treat any attack "as an all-out war against us" ahead of the arrival of a US aircraft carrier strike group and other assets in the region.

https://news.sky.com/story/iran-warn...s-way-13498251

Serial liars. This time, I mean it, I really do.. find shame :sleep: The only all out action they will conduct is the killing of their own citizens because it's not going to plan, or better said going their way.

You know Mecca is a big bugbear for them. Their cousins deserve holy recognition. Saud say Mohammed was the final prophet. Iran say cousins of his were due recognition. May be a blue badge :shrug:

Ayatollah rascal scooter

tweetiepooh

27-01-2026 12:30

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36209453)

Would you sign any document Trump had his hand in before thoroughly dissecting it looking for the well hidden 'gotcha' :D

I wouldn't even handle a document Trump had his hand on without extensive decontamination.

thenry

28-01-2026 18:05

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Trump warns 'massive armada' on its way - as Tehran responds in capital letters on social media

USA https://news.sky.com/story/us-iran-l...#liveblog-body

Iran https://news.sky.com/story/us-iran-l...#liveblog-body

Iran are tapped and the USA are Trump :shrug::LOL:

Hugh	28-01-2026 18:23

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Can I ask - what does "the USA are Trump" mean?

thenry

28-01-2026 18:35

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36209769)

Can I ask - what does "the USA are Trump" mean?

I guess it all depends how you view Trump whom stands for every US citizen. (Please note sarcasm) Tongue in cheek equal nutters or better, who tops crazy.

Can I ask which strikes have created a war (I asked multiple times) https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...12850&page=163 https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...12850&page=164

Carth

28-01-2026 18:44

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I'm wondering if you're one of those that wakes every morning and bounces around the house all day, searching all the nooks and crannies for a coherent thought . .

:erm:

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