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:tu: This ..

The system, as it stands, cannot be justified by anyone with a moral viewpoint. The system has just been allowed to run too far without intervention. there is no incentive for the wealthy to redistribute their excessive wealth in the ways needed by the challenges we face so the system will need to change to help them.

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A spot on analysis.:tu:

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I have no problems with people being ultra wealthy etc. so long as things such as tax avoidance etc are cracked down on and people/businesses pay their fair share.

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Mackenzie Besos ?

Set to donate half of her $37bn divorce settlement.

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Equality of opportunity is paramount, not to be confused with equality of outcomes.

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Theresa's having a day out at the Cricket. Do you think she's rung in sick ? ;)

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Not sticking up for her but are not people all entitled to have a day off occasionally.;)

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Nah, I reckon she pulled a sickie. Should have worn a hat/dark glasses.

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Interesting point. Some thoughts:

- she decides how the money is allocated. Is she the best person to do this?
- did she "earn" this money?
- would it not have been better if the Amazon employees to be better paid in the first place and Mr & Mrs Bezos to have less billions?

Don't forget, the system is a closed(ish) one. If some have disproportionately more, a great many will have less. Having less when you struggle to make ends meet means a more for them than a billionaire having less billions.

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OK, to answer your points

it's her money, if its a choice between her deciding or the money not being made available then yes, it's fair for her to decide.

legally, yes, she did earn the money

Amazon employees recently received a raise increase in the US to $15ph and in the UK to £9.50PH

Another one for you to consider, the Bill & Melinda (Gates) foundation is working it's way towards giving $60Bn away in the form of various initiatives.

There are wealthy people who do a lot of good in the world.

Here's a US article from a couple of years ago for you to look at

http://money.com/money/4543503/wealt...-philanthropy/

returning back to the pay amazon employees more, that's not how it works. if you were to start paying low skilled employees a significant increase on salaries then the salaries for skilled employees are going to rise also. costs of living, inflation increasing etc. leaving the low skilled/low paid employees exactly where they were with a much devalued currency

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Legally yes but morally? Also, define "earn" in your context

I am very aware of the concept of billionaire philanthropy but the whole thing is predicated on a construct that is flawed. My point is that no one should be allowed to accrue such wealth in the first place. The wealth curve needs to be much flatter so allow a return the position where the employer/employee relationship was a symbiotic one and not exploitative as it is now.

Look at the examples set by John Lewis and Richer Sounds. These prove that you can have successful businesses and have a balance between profit and responsibility.

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Sounds a good idea. Can you move these posts to a new thread titled "Capitalism: still fit for purpose?" or should I open one myself?

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If you kindly provide to me the posts via (The #number in top right corner) that need to be in a new thread, I will move them out of this thread to the new thread.

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I think these are the ones:

#2056, #2057, #2058, #2059, #2060, #2061, #2062, #2063, #2064, #2065, #2066, #2067, #2068, #2069, #2070, #2071, #2072, #2073, #2074, #2078, #2079, #2081

Thanks for doing this, I appreciate it.

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This is interesting:

'Stop Raab': Tory moderates seek to block hardliner's path to PM