Cable Forum - PM Boris forms a government

The right of a Member State to withdraw from the European Union was introduced for
the first time with the Lisbon Treaty. Prior to that, the question of the right of
withdrawal was highly controversial. Some authors had argued for the application of
customary international law (clausula rebus sic stantibus, also established in Article 62
of the Vienna Convention on the Law of the Treaties providing for unilateral withdrawal
from international treaties) within the EU framework. Moreover, several constitutional
courts saw a unilateral right to withdraw from the EU as necessary in order to preserve
national sovereignty.
...
The inclusion of a right to withdraw from the Union in the Draft Constitutional Treaty
was based on the premise that such a withdrawal would have been permissible anyway
through application of the general principles of international law.

1andrew1

07-09-2019 15:35

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Lock him up!
If BoJo doesn't obey the laws of Parliament, he could find himself in jail if he refuses to delay Brexit. More BoJail than BoJo then!
https://news.sky.com/story/boris-joh...chief-11804290

denphone

07-09-2019 15:44

Re: PM Boris forms a government

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36009261)

No one is above the law and that includes Prime Ministers..

Hugh	07-09-2019 16:27

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36009260)

Link to EU Parliament briefing (pdf)

Well, if I had to choose who to take legal advice from, where the choice is either you or the UK’s Attorney General, guess who I’d choose? ;)

1andrew1

07-09-2019 18:21

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36009260)

Link to EU Parliament briefing (pdf)

That's all about leaving the EU, not the Withdrawal Agreement that the ERG thwarted.

Pierre

07-09-2019 18:27

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36009257)

It doesn't...

The Vienna Convention is very clear that withdrawal should be agreed, not unilateral.

http://theconversation.com/brexit-wh...utation-113591

And re Article 62 - this from the Conservative Attorney-General.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47568883

It doesn’t matter, it’s already been agreed, we triggered article 50 and the EU accepted it.

End of.

Hugh	07-09-2019 18:38

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36009272)

It doesn’t matter, it’s already been agreed, we triggered article 50 and the EU accepted it.

End of.

OK, then...

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1567875461

denphone

07-09-2019 18:53

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With a General Election inevitable here is the latest polling.

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Westminster voting intention:

CON: 31% (+10)
LAB: 28% (-3)
LDEM: 19% (+6)
BREX: 15% (-4)
GRN: 2% (-3)

via
@Panelbase
, 05 - 06 Sep
**Chgs. w/ May**

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Westminster voting intention:

CON: 29% (-2)
LAB: 24% (-)
LDEM: 18% (-3)
BREX: 17% (+3)
GRN: 3% (-)

via
@Survation
, fw TBC
Chgs. w/ Aug

Pierre

07-09-2019 19:07

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36009273)

OK, then...

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1567875461

Indulge me. What have I failed to comprehend?

Sephiroth

07-09-2019 20:00

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36009237)

<SNIP>
If there's one thing he should have learnt from Theresa May and that's no red lines.

We will have an election once Boris honours Parliament's vote on no-deal. Until then, he's distrusted so the opposition parties quite sensibly won't permit an election to take place yet.

i.e. Boxed in.

Carth

07-09-2019 20:04

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36009262)

No one is above the law and that includes Prime Ministers..

short memories

denphone

07-09-2019 22:13

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Another opinion poll that has just been released gives the Conservatives a 14 point lead.