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young_timbo 28-07-2013 19:23

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Still can't see any BT Sport announcement til Thursday. Doubt BT will let them for one, and also should it be included in any collection as is looking likely quite a few people will be signing up and they won't want all the new customers to take advantage of the half price offer ending wednesday.

RichardCoulter 28-07-2013 19:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35600759)
Has anybody heard anything about UK Drama?.

oooooh, with all this excitement i'd forgotten all about that! Not heard anything at all about UK Drama, i'm at a charity event tonight where somebody who might know will also be inattendance...I'll post anything I find out tomorrow ;)

Jameseh 28-07-2013 19:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by young_timbo (Post 35600762)
...they won't want all the new customers to take advantage of the half price offer ending wednesday.

Its like SCS, the sale never ends.

denphone 28-07-2013 19:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35600765)
oooooh, with all this excitement i'd forgotten all about that! Not heard anything at all about UK Drama, i'm at a charity event tonight where somebody who might know will also be inattendance...I'll post anything I find out tomorrow ;)

Thanks Richard.

andy_m 28-07-2013 19:52

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35600748)
In short, I shall try and explain the salient point of my post again. Sometimes information that we receive is information that we should not really be privvy to and it doesn't do to go asking too many questions. Due to the very nature of the information involved, you are unlikely to get any answers, no matter how much you pry and much of this information is unlikely to be found on the internet or anywhere else.

If the subterfuge involved in obtaining and sharing some pieces of information has no credibility in your eyes because it cannot be verified, then so be it :)

"In short"! Brilliant. :D

So, in short, it's insider information and for reasons of confidentiality you're unable to say anything more. That's all I needed to know, thank you very much.

Now, whilst accepting that you will not be able to divulge any sources, can you explain why the information you are apparently privvy to is the exact opposite to the explanations given by the company themselves?

For example, the following is Virgin's official line on ESPN:

"BT now owns the ESPN and ESPN HD channels, so you’ll only be able to watch this content on Virgin Media until 31 July 2013. We’re currently talking to BT about showing these channels after this date."

This information is taken directly from the Virgin website.

Whereas you've said:

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35600318)
VM have a contract to pay ESPN for their channel until the end of the contract, whilst ESPN have a contract to supply ESPN in return for payment.

The takeover by Liberty doesn't change this legally binding agreement, as long as ESPN still exists as an entity. BT can't close down ESPN because of the requirements of various unexpired sports rights.

If I've read your posts correctly, you're saying that Virgin and ESPN have an agreement that isn't changed by the fact that the ESPN business is now owned by BT and Virgin has been taken over by Liberty. But Virgin themselves are saying that since BT now own the ESPN channels they won't be able to show them unless they come to a new, separate agreement with BT.

My question to you, quite simply, is this: Is the information on the Virgin website, bearing in mind the importance of it being correct, wrong?

howardmicks 28-07-2013 20:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35600759)
Has anybody heard anything about UK Drama?.

Nope and I pray to god it ain't one of the 4,checking the TV guide for it we are missing nothing :o:

RichardCoulter 28-07-2013 20:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35600766)
Its like SCS, the sale never ends.

PMSL :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35600772)
"In short"! Brilliant. :D

So, in short, it's insider information and for reasons of confidentiality you're unable to say anything more. That's all I needed to know, thank you very much.

Now, whilst accepting that you will not be able to divulge any sources, can you explain why the information you are apparently privvy to is the exact opposite to the explanations given by the company themselves?

For example, the following is Virgin's official line on ESPN:

"BT now owns the ESPN and ESPN HD channels, so you’ll only be able to watch this content on Virgin Media until 31 July 2013. We’re currently talking to BT about showing these channels after this date."

This information is taken directly from the Virgin website.

Whereas you've said:



If I've read your posts correctly, you're saying that Virgin and ESPN have an agreement that isn't changed by the fact that the ESPN business is now owned by BT and Virgin has been taken over by Liberty. But Virgin themselves are saying that since BT now own the ESPN channels they won't be able to show them unless they come to a new, separate agreement with BT.

My question to you, quite simply, is this: Is the information on the Virgin website, bearing in mind the importance of it being correct, wrong?

I outlined the correct position as it stands, but that does not mean that BT and/or VM are incorrect as the existing contract can be superceded at any time if both parties mutually agree.

I would not be able to comment on the outcome of any various discussions that may have taken place surrounding this as I either do not know of the outcome or am bound by commercial confidentiality.

I'm sorry I could not be of more help with this :)

denphone 28-07-2013 20:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35600778)
Nope and I pray to god it ain't one of the 4,checking the TV guide for it we are missing nothing :o:

The trouble is my partner likes the stuff on that channel so it will be a bit of give and take if that channel does arrives.

Gavin-D 28-07-2013 20:32

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UKTV Drama update

Direct from Drama on Facebook on Friday

We are coming to Virgin very soon. Keep your eyes peeled for an update (or keep an eye on your TV Guide!)

denphone 28-07-2013 20:34

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Excellent news for my partner and is this one of the channels that is testing..

Gavin-D 28-07-2013 20:38

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35600788)
Excellent news for my partner and is this one of the channels that is testing..

Could be could be not until we get an announcement from VM regarding BT Sport we won't know for sure

denphone 28-07-2013 20:44

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Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35600792)
Could be could be not until we get an announcement from VM regarding BT Sport we won't know for sure

Can some of our posters cope with the tension of it all.;)

devilincarnate 28-07-2013 20:58

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35600796)
Can some of our posters cope with the tension of it all.;)

Yes as it getting monotonous

RichardCoulter 28-07-2013 20:59

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Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35600786)
UKTV Drama update

Direct from Drama on Facebook on Friday

We are coming to Virgin very soon. Keep your eyes peeled for an update (or keep an eye on your TV Guide!)

Well spotted.

vincerooney 28-07-2013 21:27

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Oh no so that could be one of the testing channels... That leaves 3 channels. BT sports 1 and 2. Sky Atlantic.

One wishes...


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