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All back home now moaning about universal credit.

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I know I shouldn't, but . . .

:rofl: :D


*goes to sit on the naughty step before being told to* ;)

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Nope, bollocks. I voted leave and STILL very glad to leave. So that is not a correct statement.

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Wtf for?

The MPs gave parliament the mandate to give the people a vote already, that occurred in 2016 and significantly more people voted leave.

There will be no second referendum and rightly so as we don’t keep having votes because you don’t get the result you want.

Glad to know the march was all in vain.

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You cannot lump everyone who voted leave into one bunch which is what the post I was responding to was claiming.

Odd how plans are being looked at by civil servants for the possibility of another vote.

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700K ?

Is that all?

I’ve heard several estimates but Remainers would over inflate the numbers especially if Diane Abbott did the counting, does not matter. Doesn’t come close to 17.4 Million who voted to leave. Come back when it does FFS.

All the money People’s Vote put in and they could only muster up a few hundred thousand protesters. Over 1.5 million marched against the Iraq war, so less than half that amount yesterday, obviously means the country doesn’t feel the need for a second referendum.

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They will not succeed.

So nothing odd about it at all.

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I doubt she would do the counting. She voted for Article 50.

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The Iraq War protest was about 1 million. The march on Saturday is the largest protest since then even if the numbers are probably inflated up from 600,000

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So the Iraq was a protest was way bigger and the government of the day, that’s Labour, completely ignored the protest and the war raged on. So quite rightly the Losers vote March should also be rightfully be ignored.

There is absolutely no justification to hold another referendum, that the losers want to have a chance to stop Brexit. But say Remain wins this time, why the hell should this referendum be the deciding factor, why should we listen to the results of the second referendum when the first was ignored?

Let’s make it the best of it 5 FFS just to be sure. :rolleyes:

The people in U.K. had a vote, in 2016, leave won the majority vote, thus deciding that the U.K. should leave the EU in its entirety. That meant to me, leave every aspect of the EU. No staying in the corrupted union via the back door. It was very clear to me what I was voting for and I do not regret my vote to leave the corrupted EU. We need to get on with leaving.

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People can't expect a second referendum to happen just because of one protest. That would be absurd and protests are not an accurate representation of the feeling of the entire country.

What it does do is maintain the pressure reminding the government, if they had somehow forgotten, how divided the country is. It's a further sign of the strength of feeling around Brexit and that once we leave in March that the division and anger won't go away.

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Certainly dwarfs anything Leave could assemble when they were trying to change the status quo. Dark money paying for Metro newspaper advertising and social media can only go so far.

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And you agree if the protesters get their way, democracy will be abused in the sense that a precedent will be set, that if future votes don’t go the way of the side that lost, the losers can protest and demand another vote?

It’s not a true democracy when there are demands to hold the same vote, again and again. It’s the EU way but UK needs to say no way, we had a vote and it’s all that is required.

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No, Andrew, I'm just stating fact. Without an EU deal, we have a hard Brexit. Go figure.;)

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Are you joking?

Leave won by 17.4 million people- we were victorious in winning the Democratic vote, we showed up at the ballot box, you tell me why the victors should assemble to march when we bloody won?

Such absurd thing for you to say Andrew. It’s complete bollocks.

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The leavers are add odds with one another because some want a clean break and others want a deal with the EU.

The 'hard Brexiteers', for want of a better term, are fearful that Theresa May's Chequers plan will ruin our ability to forge new trade deals and tie us into the EU rules so that we are not truly independent. However, I think there are misunderstandings about that, and when the full details of this deal are released shortly, the vast majority of leavers will see that this is a sensible arrangement that TM has negotiated.

Dominic Raab on the Andrew Marr Show yesterday was a breath of fresh air.

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700,000? How many do you think would join a protest by the Brexiteers, who are in a majority? No amount of protesting by a vocal minority, even if it is a large minority, is going to change this decision.

We will leave, almost certainly with a deal. I am sure Parliament will have taken notice of the protest and opt to accept the deal rather than go for a complete break. It's the only compromise on offer.

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You really do live in a different world, don't you, Andrew? Why waste taxpayers' money as well as valuable time on another vote if Theresa May has delivered on the referendum decision? It's typical EU tactics to keep asking until they get the decision they want, following which no further votes will be entertained.

The EU is not democratic. They don't allow the wishes of the majority their say and they don't care. I, for one, no longer wish to be part of such a repressive institution, and frankly I am amazed that you should be raging against leaving it. I can only explain this by assuming it's the result of the Stockholm syndrome. Nothing else makes sense.

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This flaccid argument has been tried before.......

The Cabinet is made up of "democratically elected" MPs, appointed by the PM.

The EU Commission is made up of "appointed" representatives.

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we had a peoples vote, it was called the General Election. The Lib-dems, SNP and Greens all stood on a platform to reverse the referendum.

Nobody voted for them.