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musicbravo 23-07-2009 14:07

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
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Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 34839504)
HD is built for Sports, Movies/Special effects Sci Fi ect and Documentaries.... why the hell they waste their budget on stuff like Hollyoakes i have no idea.

puppies look better?

Mobes 23-07-2009 14:49

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
lol... i guess ;) and you can probably tell easier if they're fake rocks!

Media Boy UK 23-07-2009 15:06

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 34838101)
I have just been going through the channel guide on the v+ box and have also noticed the test channels but they are showing no info ... these are just above the AD channels on 891,892,893 has anybody got any idea what these are as i have been reading through the previous post and it says that you are only able to see the tests on certain boxes?

VMTest1, VMTest2 and VMTest3 has now been removed from Virgin Channels 891, 892 and 893 in the Ex-Telewest areas.

But they will still be testing in the main office of Ex-Telewest as they are in the main offices of Ex-CW and Ex-ntl.

bluecandylover 23-07-2009 16:23

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 34839557)
VMTest1, VMTest2 and VMTest3 has now been removed from Virgin Channels 891, 892 and 893 in the Ex-Telewest areas.

But they will still be testing in the main office of Ex-Telewest as they are in the main offices of Ex-CW and Ex-ntl.

Indeed they're gone.

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Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 34839504)
HD is built for Sports, Movies/Special effects Sci Fi ect and Documentaries.... why the hell they waste their budget on stuff like Hollyoakes i have no idea.

Well I am looking forward to watching Hollyoaks in HD :) I love the show. Would mean I have to stop watching it for a day as I watch the first look episodes on E4!

WillPS 23-07-2009 16:23

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
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Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 34839413)
You have to bear in mind that the HD channels are not direct replicas of the SD channels. Is BBC HD a version of BBC One, Two, Three or Four? None of the above. It is (currently) selected transmissions of BBC programming.

I thought that 4hd is effectively a simulcast of Channel 4, with upscaled SD where there is no HD available?

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Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 34839413)
Also, the 101 .. 105 SD channels are regional but the HD variants are national (may not apply to Five, I'm not sure). It will be different for the likes of MTV, Living, Nat. Geo., History, Discovery etc. They will be HD equivalents of the SD channels.

The only channels I'm sure of that offer full regional variation in the UK are BBC One and ITV1. BBC Two used to be able to on Analogue, but has only 4 Digital streams (Network/England, Scotland, Wales and NI), as this clip demonstrates (45 seconds onwards). ITV1 will probably do the same once they shed their regional requirements.

I can't find any evidence that Five dont have regional opt-outs, but I doubt they pay for 13 streams on DSAT so probably have settled for a national one. Same with Channel 4, although if they take on ITV's regional obligations then they would certainly need that ability.

Does anybody remember when BBC One had only 4 digital streams, and instead of regional news we got "UK Today"? BBC Choice also had 4 and used to have different programming in the nations too! It didn't last long!

gadge 23-07-2009 16:32

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
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Originally Posted by WillPS (Post 34839599)
I thought that 4hd is effectively a simulcast of Channel 4, with upscaled SD where there is no HD available?

The only channels I'm sure of that offer full regional variation in the UK are BBC One and ITV1. BBC Two used to be able to on Analogue, but has only 4 Digital streams (Network/England, Scotland, Wales and NI), as this clip demonstrates (45 seconds onwards). ITV1 will probably do the same once they shed their regional requirements.

I can't find any evidence that Five dont have regional opt-outs, but I doubt they pay for 13 streams on DSAT so probably have settled for a national one. Same with Channel 4, although if they take on ITV's regional obligations then they would certainly need that ability.

Does anybody remember when BBC One had only 4 digital streams, and instead of regional news we got "UK Today"? BBC Choice also had 4 and used to have different programming in the nations too! It didn't last long!

Ch 4 hd is simulcast of ch4 we tend to watch ch4 hd more with it being upscaled just at the moment with bb being on the films are now limited roll on when its finished.

Media Boy UK 23-07-2009 16:39

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
The Jewellery Channel new hours from August 1st.

The Jewellery Channel is thrilled to announce its new hours of operation with effect from 1st August ‘09.

Our operation hours begin from 6am and ends at 2am.

Our Virgin Media hours have been extended to cover 6am to midday on Virgin Channel 150 (Before Five USA starts broadcasting).

Info from Shopping Telly.

raefil 23-07-2009 16:44

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 34839604)
The Jewellery Channel new hours from August 1st.

The Jewellery Channel is thrilled to announce its new hours of operation with effect from 1st August ‘09.

Our operation hours begin from 6am and ends at 2am.

Our Virgin Media hours have been extended to cover 6am to midday on Virgin Channel 150 (Before Five USA starts broadcasting).

Info from Shopping Telly.

Lovely stuff lol:erm::erm:

SB_07 23-07-2009 17:57

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 34839604)
The Jewellery Channel new hours from August 1st.

The Jewellery Channel is thrilled to announce its new hours of operation with effect from 1st August ‘09.

Our operation hours begin from 6am and ends at 2am.

Our Virgin Media hours have been extended to cover 6am to midday on Virgin Channel 150 (Before Five USA starts broadcasting).

Info from Shopping Telly.

I'd be interested to know what the viewing figures are for channels like this lol.

sammyjayuk 23-07-2009 18:15

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
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Originally Posted by SB_07 (Post 34839635)
I'd be interested to know what the viewing figures are for channels like this lol.

Do BARB even look at this sort of channel??

Sam

spiderplant 23-07-2009 18:32

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
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Originally Posted by dsmuk (Post 34839359)
Off topic a bit but is it technically possible for the V+ box to direct channel 104 to the HD version and not the SD version? or is the V+ and standard box EPG linked?

Not currently possible. It would require both network and STB software changes. (Also not desirable, as others have mentioned)

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Originally Posted by WillPS (Post 34839599)
I can't find any evidence that Five dont have regional opt-outs, but I doubt they pay for 13 streams on DSAT so probably have settled for a national one.

There are two versions of Five - London and everywhere else.

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Originally Posted by SB_07 (Post 34839635)
I'd be interested to know what the viewing figures are for channels like this lol.

A lot higher than certain channels I could mention :)

joglynne 23-07-2009 18:33

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
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Originally Posted by SB_07 (Post 34839635)
I'd be interested to know what the viewing figures are for channels like this lol.

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Originally Posted by sammyjayuk (Post 34839640)
Do BARB even look at this sort of channel??

Sam

As it's sole purpose is to sell things I think the amount of money it generates will have more bearing on its survival as apposed to the number of viewers.
None of the selling channels seems to be featured on the BARB summary but unlisted channels do seem to account for a considerable percentage of viewers.

http://www.barb.co.uk/report/weeklyViewingSummary?_s=4

spiderplant 23-07-2009 18:37

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
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Originally Posted by sammyjayuk (Post 34839640)
Do BARB even look at this sort of channel??

Occasionally. Look at Ideal World in this week from April
http://www.barb.co.uk/report/weeklyV...]=200904060125

QVC hasn't been listed for months, but is far and away the most popular shopping channel.
http://www.barb.co.uk/report/weeklyV...]=200801060127

Felim_Doyle 23-07-2009 18:55

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 34839646)
A lot higher than certain channels I could mention :)

Oh go on. Mention them. Name and shame.

At some point VM will have to consider the channels that are wanted but not currently available versus the ones that they are carrying but are not watched by many.

However I take the additional point made about channels which have a low viewer number but, as trading channels, make sufficient through sales to warrant their presence on the VM network.

WillPS 23-07-2009 19:07

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
There's 3 types of channel on Virgin Media:

1) Channels Virgin Media pay nothing to carry - typically channels they have to carry (Public Service Broadcasters) or "spin offs" from them, such as the ITV and Five channels.

2) Channels Virgin Media pay to carry - for example the Sky suite of channels. These are the services which Virgin Media will market to customers.

3) Channels Virgin Media get paid to carry - these aren't really channels which Virgin can market, but the carriers will pay VM to give them better market reach. These are normally shopping channels.

The problem is the balance between 2 and 3 - 3 provides guaranteed income, whereas 2 requires marketing etc. to realise profit.


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