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Lower the damn benefits they get . . even Robin Hood didn't go this far

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Why should the people who wanted us to be in the position we are in be requested to provide a solution to the position we are in?

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Quite true, it's much easier to knock something than provide a solution :p:

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Quite true, it’s much easier to avoid the responsibility for one’s actions than provide a solution… ;)

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Well, that opens a hole new can of worms in terms of innocent dependents

So in Middlesbrough one of the most deprived areas in the country SWMBO is an ops director for a company who try to get people who have been on UC for over a year back into work.

They have over a hundred vacancies which no one will take in places like
recycling plants etc. Guess who used to do these roles ? Hint, it wasn’t brits….

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You can’t make it up, it’s almost bidenesque

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Does anyone ask why people won't take those jobs?
Are they zero contract agency jobs by any chance?
Are people getting more on benefits than the jobs would pay?

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The recycling centre roles are FTE paying min wage. They don’t want to take the roles here because it’s dirty smelly nasty work

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Stop their benefits then, or get the 'employer' to up the wages, simple.

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So not full time then.

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FTE is I believe Full Time Employment?

. . or mebbe not, it gets confusing . . .

edit: after doing some reading, it appears Pip is probably correct, you learn something every day :dunce:

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FTE is Full Time Equivalent, which is similar to pro rata - they’re indicating what you would earn if you were doing full-time hours. Basically it’s a way of making the headline salary for a part time job look more attractive on a job advert.

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Apprenticing routes out of school and ending the obsession with everyone going to university would be the start of a long-term fix.

Yes, also look closely at the way Universal Credit works and ensure it’s not subsidising indolence. To be honest simply implementing UC is a major step forwards. The Tax Credits system was so wide open to abuse it was insane.

In the shorter term I believe we will find out just how difficult it has really been to fill certain vacancies once we get out of covid and once British employers come to terms with the fact that they have to try harder. I’m not convinced many of them have accepted that yet - hence the whiny press releases pleading with el gov to reopen the immigration floodgates.

A wage-price spiral is not inevitable. Inflation is well under control at present and interest rates are still through the floor. The Bank of England has got plenty of room to manoeuvre when the time comes.

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Yes I stand corrected (see above).

I'd guess at least 85% of the current UK vacancies are of a similar status.


*subsidising indolence* cracking phrase :tu:

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I read the popular websites like many others, I'll post something I found of interest. It could be the latest GERS data, it could be about a radio station in Sheffield or it could be Brexit or TV changes.
The chicken topic been a great debate and I've enjoyed reading everyone's contributions to it. Your keen interest and colourful contributions to the debate suggest more than a passing interest, and that's all to the good as far as I'm concerned.

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Apprenticeships are growing with a levy on employers with a wage bill over £3m now but on the other hand, the government is abolishing BTEC qualifications.
https://www.apprenticeships.gov.uk/e...p-levy-payers#
https://www.tes.com/news/lord-baker-...-act-vandalism

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Everything is always dismissed by you as trivial, chickens, shell fish, ex pats having to return, hundreds of billions draining out of our capital, roaming charges, hgv drivers, etc etc I wonder what exactly it'll take for you not to describe things as trivial, Northern Ireland leaving the Union or better yet Scotland?

I'd imagine their solution would be to rejoin and the reason that question is always demanded is because we were told leavers knew what they were voting for and any queries raised were dismissed as project fear.

When they have that many vacancies it's a full time role, probably with plenty of overtime available to