Cable Forum - PM Boris forms a government

Well, Rees-Mogg may be characterised as the Honourable Member for the 18th Century but Boris Johnson is fast becoming the Honourable Member for the 1970s :D

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Boris Johnson called David Cameron 'girly swot', leaked document reveals . .
The latest episode comes a day after Mr Johnson appeared to call Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn a "great big girl's blouse" in the House of Commons.

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-joh...veals-11803807

He's going up all the time in my estimation, proper lad is our Boris :D

nomadking

06-09-2019 21:56

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36009175)

However, it's not comparable to a budget of an independent nation. Which was my original point. You can deflect/deny as you wish but that will not make you correct.

So they're going to reduce their deficit by over £8bn? That's over 10% of their current spending.

Where are the "correct" figures? What happens when the oil runs out?

jfman

06-09-2019 22:05

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36009186)

So they're going to reduce their deficit by over £8bn? That's over 10% of their current spending.

Where are the "correct" figures? What happens when the oil runs out?

Correct figures aren't available - nobody calculates Scotland's total tax income on the basis of it being an independent state.

I don't know about the oil. What do other countries plan on doing? Norway and their sovereign wealth fund has amassed £1tn in global investments, for example.

Pierre

06-09-2019 22:24

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36009186)

Where are the "correct" figures? What happens when the oil runs out?

You’re assuming Oil will run out.

heero_yuy

07-09-2019 09:00

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The oil won't run out as the world will no longer have a use for it so it'll stay in the ground and the revenue will have gone anyway.:D

Damien

07-09-2019 09:18

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I read a while back a theory that the next 'oil crisis' won't be because it's running out of it but the economic consequences of a drop of demand for investors, pension funds e.t.c.

Pierre

07-09-2019 09:57

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Going wildly off topic for a second, I read some time ago that oil is not a fossil fuel but a naturally occurring mineral. Found a depths much lower than the fossil record.

Now you can file that along with other crackpot positions, but it was interesting all the same.

Google it.

Chris

07-09-2019 10:09

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Yes, I’ve come across that. Naturally produced by earth’s internal processes and therefore effectively limitless. Apparently.

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How the smegola did we get here?

Sephiroth

07-09-2019 10:25

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I only caught a part of the discussion on LBC at around 09:10 this morning so can't tell you which loony leftie MP compared Boris with Mugabe in the context of Brexit.

Whilst on the subject of Boris, he's managed to get himself seriously boxed in; highly amateur, imo. I put that down to that thug Cummings and a sure amount of naievity in Johnson himself.

Is he popular enough to win a general election?

jfman

07-09-2019 10:36

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I actually think Boris should outflank the opposition here and rather than call an election legislate for a second referendum. Win it, then call a general election basking in the glory of delivering Brexit. Gets him out both holes and does what the opposition don’t expect.

pip08456

07-09-2019 10:46

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36009209)

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Boxed in? I wonderif this is true? No matter what the opposition says there will be an election eventually.

The genie may come out of the box then.

1andrew1

07-09-2019 11:12

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This sounds more and more like the plot of a Jeffrey Archer novel. :D
Jo is spot-on; he knows what most of Parliament and the country at large does; Boris is not working in the national interest.

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"So you're not like the Milliband Brothers then, Boris was asked by an Australian journalist, provoking what he called "an instant rebuke".
"Absolutely not," he replied. "We don't do things that way, that's a very left-wing thing... only a socialist could do that to his brother, only a socialist could regard familial ties as being so trivial as to shaft his own brother."

As Boris struggled with defeats in parliament and the defection or sacking for senior Conservatives for opposing his Brexit plans, Jo announced that he was quitting politics altogether - as both a minister and a member of parliament.
Jo tweeted: "It's been an honour to represent Orpington for 9 years & to serve as minister under three PMs. In recent weeks I've been torn between family loyalty and the nationals interest - it's an unresolved tension & time for others to take on my roles and MP & Minister #overandout."
Loyal to his brother, Jo resisted invitations to comment further. But the meaning of his resignation was clear. He is giving up his political career because he can no longer serve his brother because, he believes, Boris is no longer working in the "national interest."

https://news.sky.com/story/sky-views...hnson-11804099

Maggy

07-09-2019 12:01

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36009203)

A question I have been asking for some time..

Sephiroth

07-09-2019 12:32

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36009212)

Being boxed in now, then yes.

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36009213)

Boxed in? I wonderif this is true? No matter what the opposition says there will be an election eventually.

The genie may come out of the box then.

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Boxed in? I wonderif this is true? No matter what the opposition says there will be an election eventually.

The genie may come out of the box then.

Boxed in as to his 31-Oct commitment and resort to an election at an optimal time for Brexit.

1andrew1

07-09-2019 13:19

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 36009230)

A question I have been asking for some time..

Back in 2016, David Cameron wanted to heal the 40-year European divisions in the Conservative Party. He's now in the garden shed and Boris is wondering why he's now in the dog house that he bought for his PR puppy. ;)

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36009233)

[Boxed in as to his 31-Oct commitment and resort to an election at an optimal time for Brexit.

If there's one thing he should have learnt from Theresa May and that's no red lines.

We will have an election once Boris honours Parliament's vote on no-deal. Until then, he's distrusted so the opposition parties quite sensibly won't permit an election to take place yet.

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