Cable Forum - TiVo General TiVo Discussion Part 3

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Rollout 5th to 15th Nov 2013 - you got it on 12th Nov (mid-way)
Rollout 23rd Oct to 1st Nov 2012 - you got it on 30th Oct (third-last)
Rollout 14th to 26th Aug 2012 - you got it on 15th Aug (second)
Rollout 9th to 24th Nov 2011 - you got it on 23rd Nov (second-last)

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OK, most recent first...

Cambridge, Hemel, Perth
Luton, Swindon, Reading, Stafford, Manchester, Perth, Falkirk, Southport, Croydon
Teesside, Uddingston, Coventry, Warwick, Cardiff, Southampton, Manchester, Wearside, Brighton, Colchester
Andover, Ashford, Bromley, Colchester, Derby, Hemel, Kirklees, Exeter, Plymouth, Norwich, Oxford, Seven Kings, Watford, Southampton, Stafford, Stoke, Swansea, Swindon, Teesside, Uddingston, Wessex, York

Well, that's interesting.

In future could you make Swindon last for every update, just for fun? :)

(Totally not a mean spirited Swindonian exile!)

Does Biggleswade count as it's own area for these updates just out of interest? Anyway, I don't mind when this one comes as I use the TiVO much less than my partner but I know it'll results in questioning as to why the colours have all changed! :p

spiderplant

10-11-2014 10:48

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35740026)

Here's hoping for Preston on Tuesday ;)

Aren't you in Liverpool? I know it's the same headend, but we treat them separately. Perhaps you just like Prestonians :)

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Originally Posted by Tricky Trevor (Post 35740045)

Fingers crossed for Area 30 tomorrow

"Area 30" is the billing system you are on. In many cases, including yours, they aren't a single headend.

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Originally Posted by Stop It (Post 35740062)

In future could you make Swindon last for every update, just for fun? :)

Don't you think they've suffered enough already?

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Originally Posted by Stop It (Post 35740062)

Does Biggleswade count as it's own area for these updates just out of interest?

You're classed as Luton

Stop It

10-11-2014 11:06

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35740066)

Don't you think they've suffered enough already?

Hey, I had to suffer for nearly 19 years, I think they should have at least a little more back! :P

I still remember the Red Dwarf episode Epideme where Lister is asked what death felt like after the virus nearly killed him. The response? "Have you ever been to Swindon?". From personal experience I can attest to that! :p

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You're classed as Luton

Ah, got it, thanks :) I shall keep an eye out for when they (we) get updated.

dilli-theclaw

10-11-2014 11:15

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Originally Posted by Stop It (Post 35740062)

Biggleswade? Not spotted that before, hello from your neighbour in sunny Sandy :) :tu:

Stop It

10-11-2014 12:23

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Originally Posted by dilli-theclaw (Post 35740068)

Biggleswade? Not spotted that before, hello from your neighbour in sunny Sandy :) :tu:

No worries :) *Waves down the A1*

Worked in the area for 11 years now, lived in Biggleswade itself for 7. I must admit I have become quite attached to the area, especially the rugby community :)

Anywho, to stick on topic a little more: I don't know if it's a general EPG issue, mis-reporting or the TiVO EPG but there's times when programmes show the (S) Subtitle in the info and they don't have them, or it doesn't show it when it does!

This makes TiVo recordings a bit hit & miss as my partner is partially deaf and relies on them. As much as I would love all shows to have them I know that isn't always viable, but accurate information (An example, the Steve Wilkos show on Sky living is a big culprit of this and makes for lots of wasted recordings) would be really helpful.

Kushan

10-11-2014 12:44

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Originally Posted by Stop It (Post 35740072)

the Steve Wilkos show on Sky living is a big culprit of this and makes for lots of wasted recordings

I don't think the lack of subtitles is the main reason why that's a waste of disk space :P

Media Boy UK

10-11-2014 12:46

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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35740078)

I don't think the lack of subtitles is the main reason why that's a waste of disk space :P

I know it not TiVo but my V+ Box takes up about 8 hours to tape WWE Raw Live every Monday night. (It only on for 3hr 22mins)

spiderplant

10-11-2014 13:45

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Originally Posted by Stop It (Post 35740072)

Anywho, to stick on topic a little more: I don't know if it's a general EPG issue, mis-reporting or the TiVO EPG but there's times when programmes show the (S) Subtitle in the info and they don't have them, or it doesn't show it when it does!

That's a TiVo EPG data error, but there are several places the error could have been introduced. To help narrow it down, can you check whether it is correct on Sky's website?

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35740079)

I know it not TiVo but my V+ Box takes up about 8 hours to tape WWE Raw Live every Monday night. (It only on for 3hr 22mins)

That's because the Sky Sports channels are broadcast at an unusually high bit rate. 8 hours is just an average.

Media Boy UK

10-11-2014 13:48

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35740090)

That's because the Sky Sports channels are broadcast at an unusually high bit rate. 8 hours is just an average.

Is that an new thing?

Only seen it about Three months ago.

nicko

10-11-2014 15:14

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35739331)

Actually it's untypical. On previous roll-outs we have sent a message the day before, but this time we're trying without.

If your box is powered down at the time will you still get it when you switch on?

Stop It

10-11-2014 15:14

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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35740078)

I don't think the lack of subtitles is the main reason why that's a waste of disk space :P

Haha! It's entertaining and my partner loves it, so who am I to complain!

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35740090)

That's a TiVo EPG data error, but there are several places the error could have been introduced. To help narrow it down, can you check whether it is correct on Sky's website?

I shall check next time it happens. It appears there are chunks of a week or two of episodes of certain programmes that do not have subtitles but have the subtitle flag. As you say, it could by Sky mis-reporting it, so may not be VM/the TiVO system at fault. Just a small pet hate really.

RichardCoulter

10-11-2014 16:12

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35739331)

Actually it's untypical. On previous roll-outs we have sent a message the day before, but this time we're trying without.

But won't that put unnecessary pressure on the call centre staff? :confused:

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35739661)

And the developers who were even firster :D

PMSL :D

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35740066)

Aren't you in Liverpool? I know it's the same headend, but we treat them separately. Perhaps you just like Prestonians :)

"Area 30" is the billing system you are on. In many cases, including yours, they aren't a single headend.

Never knew that!

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35739350)

You want to get yourself downgraded to a VHD box, 10 times faster than Tivo...

Could be wrong, but i'm not sure that they would allow that as they eventually want everybody on TiVo.

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35740090)

That's a TiVo EPG data error, but there are several places the error could have been introduced. To help narrow it down, can you check whether it is correct on Sky's website?

In addition, on my recording of 'The Job Lot' last week, I noticed that the AD was being subtitled too! Would this be an error, or is it something that helps disabled people in a way that I haven't thought of?

muppetman11

10-11-2014 19:31

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35740090)

That's a TiVo EPG data error, but there are several places the error could have been introduced. To help narrow it down, can you check whether it is correct on Sky's website?

The show in question on Sky living it shows as Subtitles on the Sky EPG when turning subtitles on it works as expected that said I've only tried it on tonights 6pm showing.

spiderplant

10-11-2014 20:15

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35740162)

The show in question on Sky living it shows as Subtitles on the Sky EPG when turning subtitles on it works as expected that said I've only tried it on tonights 6pm showing.

Thanks. Subtitles are working for it on VM too.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35740114)

But won't that put unnecessary pressure on the call centre staff?

Maybe, maybe not. If it turns out to be a bad idea the messages will be back.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35740114)

You mean "Charlie enters the room" was in the subtitles? That could be useful for someone with both partial sight and hearing - so they can visually confirm what they may have misheard. Maybe useful to a deaf-blind person with a subtitle-to-braille converter? Or a deaf person with tunnel vision who can't see the whole screen area? Perhaps Dilli has some ideas.

Robertus

10-11-2014 21:20

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What was the verdict on Knowsley?

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